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On February 01 2015 05:45 TotalBiscuit wrote: Surprised Taeja wasn't awarded best Protoss We were considering giving Scarlett best international Protoss but we decided that a 100% win rate against Zerg offline didn't mean anything.
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On February 01 2015 05:46 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 05:37 D-light wrote:On February 01 2015 05:26 argonautdice wrote:On February 01 2015 04:30 HolydaKing wrote:On February 01 2015 04:23 KalWarkov wrote: Taeja best terran?
Life not zerg runner up?
Sen 2nd best foreiner?
Jim best Protoss foreigner?
"okay" Taeja had the best results of terrans in 2014 imo, so yeah even tho I don't like him it's OK for him to be #1. Life should be runner up I agree. Sen 2nd best foreigner is OK for me since there weren't any noticeable ones except Snute. Well, maybe Bunny or Scarlett, but not really... Jim best foreign Protoss I got no clue, there aren't any I would definietly choose, so I'm fine with it. No really good foreign Protoss 2014 IMO. Jim's accomplishments are a bit more hidden. In 2014, aside from his run at IEM Shenzhen and winning four major tournaments in China, Jim also made impressive runs in Leifeng Cups, beating Koreans like Center, Supernova, Creator, eMotion, Losira, Cure, Myungsik, Terror, Impact, Ragnarok, Hurricane, Ruin, Seed, Revival Guilty. Oh yeah didn't really check the (lack of Welmu's) minor tournaments. There's enough good Koreans in that list to make me realize my silly Finnish bias. Personally I think Welmu would've had a more bright 2014 if it weren't for his medical condition, and a lot of the players he beat were more high tier like YoDa, RorO, MMA, MC, HyuN, etc, so it was a close call. A lot of things would probably be quite a bit different without all that hassle.
Consistency was awarded here and Jim had more places to show it. Unfortunately there are no sympathy-points awarded in Starcraft2 in general.
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Awesome awards as always, all your choices seem pretty spot on! :D
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On February 01 2015 05:48 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 05:16 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2015 05:09 SackOfWetMice wrote: While I agree with the choice, I'm confused about that last '1-0 Rain' Rain proxy gated but Zest scouted it. Rain blamed the soundproofing and forfeited the series Missing the joke here :\ (I know you're referencing Naniwa, but I don't get the joke ) According to liquipedia, Rain did beat Zest in their PvP in the Proleague finals. So that last should be Zest 0-1 to Rain, right?
I think I saw the mistake, its a double 0-1 0-1 in PL. I must have glanced over it. Updated those stats.
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On February 01 2015 05:47 Torte de Lini wrote: The amount of TL players winning feels excessive, but I love these awards and wouldn't have it any other way!
Reddit says the same thing and I don't get it.
Taeja has always been controversial when it comes to rating him. For some gsl = everything.
Snute and Bunny though? Those two seemed pretty clear cut to me. I was under the impression that Snute was widely considered the best foreigner and Bunny the best foreign Terran.
HerO vs Polt was also an incredible final.
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Snute is easily the best foreign Zerg and best foreign player of 2014, and Bunny is easily the best foreign Terran (I think Major should've been another runner-up, though.) No bias, just fact.
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On February 01 2015 03:59 Alucen-Will- wrote: I have a really hard time with Taeja as the best Korean Terran, Honestly I would favor Bomber, MMA (maybe), and perhaps innovation over Taeja. Much of Taeja's success is against inferior competition.
Innovation won a gsl. (That in itself is far more difficult than winning the tournaments that taeja won)
MMA 2nd at blizzcon
Bomber won the RBBG in very impressive fashion, defeating several solid Kespa players, including cure. Who at the time was in the semi-finals of the GSL who went on to lost to Innovation 4-3. Taeja's run at Blizzcon was far harder than MMA's. He also came much closer to beating Life. If MMA was in the lower bracket I doubt he would even reach ro4.
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I am totally Agree, good to put SoO and Zest up there,because most players forget them because both of them had a downn.
as Protoss Zest is my Guy and as Zerg soO!!
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So, as Protoss haters constantly pointed out last year, Taeja's Dreamhack and Homestory Cup runs didn't have a single Code S player in them. His IEM Shenzen run was fantastic, as was his Blizzcon run even though he didn't win. Overall I can agree with giving Taeja best Terran, but I think it should have been more half-hearted, there were no consistently great terrans in 2014.
I also think that leaving Flash off the runner-ups is likely due to his 2015 performance. In 2014 he had a better proleague record than Zest, won a very stacked tournament and got 2nd in another, and went 6-1 against the "top terran". He deserves to be mentioned alongside Innovation and Bomber.
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Best Korean Zerg,sOO? Life won Blizzcon
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The only good reason I see for handing TaeJa best korean terran would be his blizzcon performance, but if that was the great contributor, where's life?
if consistency was the reason like for soo, surely innovation would be a better candidate than taeja, he may have stomped tournaments outside of korea, but you can hardly compare that to consistant performance in korea.
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On February 01 2015 06:31 will216 wrote: Best Korean Zerg,sOO? Life won Blizzcon 4 consecutive GSL finals is far more impressive, even if he won none of them.
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I guess the cash price collected by these players in 2014 could be mentionned. Not everything, but at least an objective data.
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On February 01 2015 06:36 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 06:31 will216 wrote: Best Korean Zerg,sOO? Life won Blizzcon 4 consecutive GSL finals is far more impressive, even if he won none of them. But not even a honorable mention? Come Team Liquid, really ? And I'm not even going to talk about best korean Terran...
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On February 01 2015 06:38 christophequirion wrote: I guess the cash price collected by these players in 2014 could be mentionned. Not everything, but at least an objective data. But the thread would never get 10+ pages of replies if we only went by objective standards.
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On February 01 2015 06:38 christophequirion wrote: I guess the cash price collected by these players in 2014 could be mentionned. Not everything, but at least an objective data. IEM World Championship begs to differ
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On February 01 2015 06:39 will216 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 06:36 Ctesias wrote:On February 01 2015 06:31 will216 wrote: Best Korean Zerg,sOO? Life won Blizzcon 4 consecutive GSL finals is far more impressive, even if he won none of them. But not even a honorable mention? Come Team Liquid, really ? And I'm not even going to talk about best korean Terran... Life should definitely have been honorably mentioned. So much, in fact, I believe it was a typo to leave him out.
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On February 01 2015 06:44 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 06:39 will216 wrote:On February 01 2015 06:36 Ctesias wrote:On February 01 2015 06:31 will216 wrote: Best Korean Zerg,sOO? Life won Blizzcon 4 consecutive GSL finals is far more impressive, even if he won none of them. But not even a honorable mention? Come Team Liquid, really ? And I'm not even going to talk about best korean Terran... Life should definitely have been honorably mentioned. So much, in fact, I believe it was a typo to leave him out. Zealously was gagged #freeZealously
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Life not even 'close' as the runner up best zerg? Travesty.
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lol nice work
Pretty sure Harvey Dent didn't say that though
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