Can't on phone and can't properly find and filter 5+ games on phone. Like I really don't get it Marv; usually it feels like you listen to me more than you have this game. I'll give you that there are a bunch of question marks this game but idk. Just feels different from usual.
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geript
10024 Posts
Can't on phone and can't properly find and filter 5+ games on phone. Like I really don't get it Marv; usually it feels like you listen to me more than you have this game. I'll give you that there are a bunch of question marks this game but idk. Just feels different from usual. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Also it would be nice to hear from some of the more suspicious people some stuff that's not about their 'main' focus or defense. For that reason I kinda like GB's terrible case. The sole issue I have preventing from me thinking he is town is I have been known to write out large terrible cases to get people off my back, assuming I'm going to have to fight with people over them (and then they just ignore the case and never do). This is clearly not what is happening with GB here because no one is ignoring his terrible case. Point being, was this a scum attempt to deflect by going balls out and attacking marv? I'm ignoring the apparent suicid-ey-ness of it because it's not a great point against decent players (and possibly because marv's ego doesn't need any more food lol). I thik it's interesting that he mentioned marv as an apparent scumread ages ago, left it alone for a while (where it had a chance to die when it became clear that wasn't going to go anywhere) and then he cam back to it in full force. I think he truly does believe the things he has posted (even though he self-professed to 'play like he's town' when scum). I think i buy this. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Wave, I'm kinda upset you didn't take more umbrage at my filter argument. You given into the silliness? As I said, the argument holds water. It's one of those things that shouldn't work in theory if people played 'optimally' or whatever, but fact remains, it works. I mean I personally have other reasons to call you town this game but that reason works well enough. The funny thing there is JAT has a point where the argument doesn't necessarily work for everyone (ie HF, and if I were anyone else I wouldn't let me get away with that either). Where the fuck is Rayn? Is he scum? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:03 geript wrote: Can't on phone and can't properly find and filter 5+ games on phone. Like I really don't get it Marv; usually it feels like you listen to me more than you have this game. I'll give you that there are a bunch of question marks this game but idk. Just feels different from usual. I've literally engaged you on it more than anyone else had, and I keep repeating the same thing to you, and for some reason you present a town-game when I HAD ALREADY ACCEPTED THAT FACET OF THE ARGUMENT. cmon geript. | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Being wishy washy on one post is suspicious but not mafiaish. Being passive throughout the game is. By the way I'm rescinding my town read on obi since he is playing just like he played when he was mafia | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Where the fuck is Rayn? Is he scum? If he was telling the truth he should be around soon. | ||
Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Elvis - I've played with Elvis twice, and both times he was VT. Elvis was indeed a bit different at the start of the game than he was at the start of other games. I do not recall him ever joking around at the start of the game before. But to be quite frank, I don't particularly think this is very mafia-indicative: 1. Elvis is a new player, I'm expecting new players to switch up quite a bit, partially because they have to become comfortable with the game. 2. He subbed out and the fact that he subbed out so early also means that we only have a tiny bit of his gameplay to work with, and I'm not comfortable with lynching someone with only small pieces of information to work with. I don't really have a read on Damd yet, but I haven't taken the time to dive his filter either (and I probably won't take/have the time today). Overall, I agree that Elvis' play did not look like his previous play, but I don't think that's enough to lynch his replacement. Sentinel - I've only placed with Sent once, and we were both scum (Campus mafia). His play during d1 was different than what I see here, which initially made me believe he was probably town. However, I recall him saying early on in scum QT that he was planning to call me out on my first post as scum before he realized he was scum as well. This makes me believe that Sent is usually a fairly aggressive player, who is not afraid to call out people as scum straight up. This game I feel he has been passive and has given weak reads at best. This leads me to believe that he may very well be switching up his play a bit to hide: his play isn't the same as his scum-game with me, but I find it hard to believe this is his town-game based on the feeling I had on him in the scum QT during the scum-game (again, Campus mafia). Overall, I would say that I am leaning scum on Sentinel, and wouldn't mind seeing a case on him by someone other than me (mainly because I have little time this evening). GlowingBear - The interactions I had with GB last night did not really convince me he was town. I would like everyone who has not done so to give an opinion on the case, and what they think of GB. As it stands, my vote will remain on GB. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:07 GlowingBear wrote: By the way I'm rescinding my town read on obi since he is playing just like he played when he was mafia Explain. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
I mean I listen to everyone, but I can't think of any particular games where I've given particular weight to your reads. And generally I has good mafia memoryz | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:07 GlowingBear wrote: Funny though marv, you've only picked the easily defendable parts of my case, but didn't explain the bolded. Being wishy washy on one post is suspicious but not mafiaish. Being passive throughout the game is. By the way I'm rescinding my town read on obi since he is playing just like he played when he was mafia because i can just laugh at you instead | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
do you think I'd find it hard, as mafia, to choose a target and make a kinda convincing push at them? do you think I'd find it hard, as mafia, to give more categorical townreads? (you picked up my read on HF which i thought was very townie) | ||
ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:07 Superbia wrote: I'll give some thoughts on both Elvis and Sent real quick, since I have played with both of them before: Elvis - I've played with Elvis twice, and both times he was VT. Elvis was indeed a bit different at the start of the game than he was at the start of other games. I do not recall him ever joking around at the start of the game before. But to be quite frank, I don't particularly think this is very mafia-indicative: 1. Elvis is a new player, I'm expecting new players to switch up quite a bit, partially because they have to become comfortable with the game. 2. He subbed out and the fact that he subbed out so early also means that we only have a tiny bit of his gameplay to work with, and I'm not comfortable with lynching someone with only small pieces of information to work with. I don't really have a read on Damd yet, but I haven't taken the time to dive his filter either (and I probably won't take/have the time today). Overall, I agree that Elvis' play did not look like his previous play, but I don't think that's enough to lynch his replacement. Sentinel - I've only placed with Sent once, and we were both scum (Campus mafia). His play during d1 was different than what I see here, which initially made me believe he was probably town. However, I recall him saying early on in scum QT that he was planning to call me out on my first post as scum before he realized he was scum as well. This makes me believe that Sent is usually a fairly aggressive player, who is not afraid to call out people as scum straight up. This game I feel he has been passive and has given weak reads at best. This leads me to believe that he may very well be switching up his play a bit to hide: his play isn't the same as his scum-game with me, but I find it hard to believe this is his town-game based on the feeling I had on him in the scum QT during the scum-game (again, Campus mafia). Overall, I would say that I am leaning scum on Sentinel, and wouldn't mind seeing a case on him by someone other than me (mainly because I have little time this evening). GlowingBear - The interactions I had with GB last night did not really convince me he was town. I would like everyone who has not done so to give an opinion on the case, and what they think of GB. As it stands, my vote will remain on GB. Ugh soooo much meta. This game in general is rampant with it. Mediocre start, Superbia, in regards to people that aren't GB. Can we get something on one of the power players? (Also I seem to recall you asking me what my 'goal' was at some point, and then never bothered either following up or even saying anything at all about me.) | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
Thoughts on GB's case on me? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##vote superbia See now I want to hear more about GB's Obi read because I keep giving Obi a free pass and he keeps doing stuff that annoys me. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote: See now I want to hear more about GB's Obi read because I keep giving Obi a free pass and he keeps doing stuff that annoys me. I 100% understand the vote. Depending on how he justifies it :p | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote: I 100% understand the vote. Depending on how he justifies it :p Well that's part of what annoys me. It's like when you've got a confirmed town player who sits back and coasts on his status instead of actually helping his team win (even though Obi is only town in my head). | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom35817 Posts
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On November 28 2014 12:29 Damdred wrote: I'm pretty much caught up I won't go into my town reads but I have a good many of them this time around. I think it is time to go into your town reads. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 29 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote: btw, just to note, Palmar dropped his shit little piece and has peaced out of the thread since. DO NOT FORGET On November 28 2014 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah, and I forgot about palmar. I could totally see last second shenannies magically flying over to him at the end of the day and I'm not sure if I like that idea or not. The shittiest part is he could totally be town too, and if(when?) this happens we likely learn nothing. | ||
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