Titan (Click the outer side of the video, don't click play, gotta go to the site directly.)
Sounds from space
From a post below:
On January 17 2008 13:50 BottleAbuser wrote: I present to you Wikipedia links!
The Fermi paradox shows us an apparent problem with current "possible life" models, which are heavily based on the Drake equation.
Basically, the Fermi paradox says (paraphrased) "given the huge number of stars out there, some of them must be the type that facilitates life. Among these, some of them will have planets of the correct composition, of the correct orbit, of the correct rotation, and possibly with a correctly-sized moon, which are all hypothesized to be required for life. Once we account for the numbers, there must be trillions of planets out there that host life, and millions or at least thousands of these must be 'intelligent.' And the vast majority of these will be extremely old, as in several billions of years old. So why haven't we heard from them yet?"
Some proposed solutions are: Our model is wrong, and life (or at least intelligent life) has much higher, less probably met requirements. Or intelligent life tends to self-terminate before reaching interstellar travel. There are others, but most are very unexciting or depressing.
those signals are from the electromagnetic field of the planet if I remember correctly, from what I understand you can tune into Jupiter occasionally in the western deserts of the US.
Well, I don't know about those videos (can't watch them) but I will say that I feel entirely sure the universe is full of life. I believe the universe itself is alive (admittedly a strange and unpopular definition of life, but one I subscribe to.)
The thing is, humans are interested primarily in "intelligent life." Of course, most life is profoundly intelligent. What humans are really interested in is more properly termed "stupid life," that which is like us. I'm sure that kind of life is out there too.
I agree with some of the people that have mentioned it already. The universe HAS to have other life forms other than us. I mean, if it happened here in the little Milky Way Galaxy, why can't it happen somewhere else too? The universe is fucking huuuugeeeeee. Think of the possibilities. @_@
On January 17 2008 12:47 nA.Inky wrote: Well, I don't know about those videos (can't watch them) but I will say that I feel entirely sure the universe is full of life. I believe the universe itself is alive (admittedly a strange and unpopular definition of life, but one I subscribe to.)
The thing is, humans are interested primarily in "intelligent life." Of course, most life is profoundly intelligent. What humans are really interested in is more properly termed "stupid life," that which is like us. I'm sure that kind of life is out there too.
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Humans arent stupid wtf.
=p
The only reason you know about other planets and such is because of smart humans throughout history.
Sadist, I think we all make up our own idea of life. I mean, it is that or we subscribe to someone else's idea of life. This doesn't trouble me.
Sure, whether or not humans are intelligent or stupid is debatable - the debate would revolve around definitions of intelligence. By the way humans tend to view intelligence, we humans are quite intelligent (hmmm... I wonder if that is a coincidence.)
Again, my thoughts on life are an issue of definition. I see everything in the universe as a part of a living system - alive and conscious in ways that humans can't even imagine. This is more of a religious kind of belief, sure.
At any rate, in my view, humans are rather foolish considering how we foolishly exploit our resources, we kill thousands of other species of life every year for no good reason as far as I am concerned, and we undermine our own well being in so many ways - organizational, technological, and environmental.
I believe much of this is because we don't view ourselves as part of the universe, but rather as being outside of it, like invaders or conquerers. We see ourselves as distinct from each other and from our world. This is a kind of blindness or dullness, as far as I am concerned - a real handicap. Humans are so terribly afraid and greedy, not realizing that there is nothing to fear and that we already have everything we need.
The Fermi paradox shows us an apparent problem with current "possible life" models, which are heavily based on the Drake equation.
Basically, the Fermi paradox says (paraphrased) "given the huge number of stars out there, some of them must be the type that facilitates life. Among these, some of them will have planets of the correct composition, of the correct orbit, of the correct rotation, and possibly with a correctly-sized moon, which are all hypothesized to be required for life. Once we account for the numbers, there must be trillions of planets out there that host life, and millions or at least thousands of these must be 'intelligent.' And the vast majority of these will be extremely old, as in several billions of years old. So why haven't we heard from them yet?"
Some proposed solutions are: Our model is wrong, and life (or at least intelligent life) has much higher, less probably met requirements. Or intelligent life tends to self-terminate before reaching interstellar travel. There are others, but most are very unexciting or depressing.