EPTOn December 02 2013 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are telling me you never entertained the idea of picking 1/1?
You are telling me you never entertained the idea of picking 1/1?
Yes.
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justanothertownie
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Oatsmaster
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bumatlarge
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supersoft
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I see a huge catastrophe with lots of VTs incoming -_- | ||
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supersoft
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 01 2013 13:10 bumatlarge wrote: Alright, this is what I am proposing. The first 6 slots should pick these, in this order. I think they are too strong not to keep track of, and knowing who they are will give us a lot of power over them, even if they are mafia. The next roles I believe are very useful for town and not so much mafia. TOWN Lux Jarvan IV Taric Karma Galio Orianna Syndra These are the protective and investigative roles in power order(Mafia nerfed our DTs ) We really want to have all these roles, so I suggest the next 7 slots take them. This does make them susceptible to KP so here's what I would do. Flip a coin to determine if you would get the town blue or a vet. This way, mafia would have a rough time killing off our medic/DT section if there is a 50% of them being vets. I would say these roles would do nicely.Defensive Dr. Mundo Fiora Garen Mordekaiser Poppy I think Galio and Taric are already naturally bulky and protective, so they don't need to RNG. The slots below this can do whatever. Vig, Vet or even checking a role done before. WoS said there are hidden abilities for every champ, so I don't think there is a downside to going for weaker roles. I think the last few slots should be devoted to checking picks. Either the power 6, the 5 non-defensive blues, or one of these mafia-sided roles. MAFIA Talon Nocturne Shaco Amumu These are pretty much mafia favored roles (some more then others) so last slots *could* check them. I don't think town would take these roles, so no one would have them except mafia. The last slots have a much worse chance of getting neutral roles like veteran/evasion or vigilante roles so I think it's worth towns while. That's my rough draft. If people have recommendations or criticisms on numbers/orders or generally better ideas, I'm open to it. actually this post is quite decent. We need to discuss this now. Otherwise we screw up the whole game! | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
I think everyone should ask himself whether he's a higher or a lower priority scumKP target. Depending on how endangered you are, you should take a more defensive or a more offensive/supportive role. | ||
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bumatlarge
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marvellosity
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote: Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you. In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly. Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos | ||
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Koshi
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Koshi
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BloodyC0bbler
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Now. Honestly I do agree with bum that we should be selecting roles that the top 7 players choose. This is purely to make sure the roles that are hugely important are well, known. However I disagree with his list a bit. I honestly think warwick is not as much of a threat as he thinks it is. Why? Because it requires active knowledge of peoples roles for mafia to use it properly. It is a role that late game the mafia perhaps could use if people start claiming or what not but honestly I believe in a pyp setup no one should really ever claim unless they are 100% dead to a lynch. IMO only the people in the top 7 slots should be claiming in the event that they attempt to take their allotted role and they don't get it. IE someone in the list above them sniped the role and let theirs drop down to someone else. As such Number 1 pick should be Viktor. The inventor role is crazy strong in the hands of mafia or town, but knowing who has the role is insanely important. Number 2 should be Kassadin Number 3 should be Heimerdinger Number 4 should be Tryndamere Number 5 should be Singed Number 6 should be Janna Number 7 should be Blitzcrank Past this people should be assessing what would be the best pick at their number. Denying mafia roles, attempting to take investigative, medic, vet like, etc... will all depend on your style of play and your strengths. If you are a analyzer you should be saving yourself, taking a dt role or a gun to kill your reads. If you are good at the long haul play go for things that keep you alive, or keep others alive, etc.. Those 7 roles I think are by far the most important to lock down. For anyone who asks why singed and blitzcrank? Moving people around the list lets other players do more or less. Mafia having control of them, or a majority of them could potentially fuck us hard. Also knowing whos causing damage / playing with the list I think is incredibly important information to have. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1. Koshi - Viktor(???) + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2013 23:06 Koshi wrote: raynpolikoneet I am not going to do what you are saying. Might pick Viktor though. Kinda liking Karthus. 2. Kurumi - Warwick + Show Spoiler + He left his vote on him, so I think that is someone who I can trust to use it publicly and I'm assuming he also fears mafia having it. 3. VisceraEyes - Kassadin + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2013 13:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm picking an OP role. Take a note from geript and pick an OP role to find out which. VE has been acting weird, but I think he's just RPing his dude. If he wants, a public Kassadin is a monster for town, so he'd be a high priority target to protect. He's a good player so I'd trust him with it. He could go meta and pick a defensive role and say he took kass and I'd call it towny. 4. jcarlsoniv - Janna + Show Spoiler + He's been pretty active, so if he's not sure what to pick, Janna seems good for him. I like his judgment on players so far, and I think he's town. 5. Mig - Heimer + Show Spoiler + Mig is a good player and doesn't need a role to be useful. He would have to be vocal, because I don't have a read on him, and it's very easy to sneak a turret to a scummate. 6. JonnyLaw - ??? + Show Spoiler + I think this guy has a game plan, so I think it's best to let him at it. 7. Risen - ??? + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2013 05:07 Risen wrote: I'm town. No one will be picking my hero since I'm grabbing it for loyalty reasons. My numbers will be [5,5] ##vote: yorick I don't know who he's going to pick, but I'd suggest Lux. She's rly gud. If you are not, let us know so someone knows to take her. She's last real Investigative role we know we have. 8. StorrZerg -50/50 Jarvan/Dr. Mundo + Show Spoiler + He said he was going to be inactive until after the weekend, so if your reading this Storr, pick Jarvan or Mundo if you haven't decided. 9. geript - Taric + Show Spoiler + I think Taric is a very good town role. He's a defensive medic, so he's harder to take out. I wouldn't be public about it, but you'd be pretty safe in taking this. 10. austinmcc - 50/50 Karma/Fiora + Show Spoiler + Haven't seen him post much, but karma is an interesting role. If Austin isn't an experienced player, Fiora might be a little difficult to use. 11. Meapak_Ziphh - Galio + Show Spoiler + A little tougher to use then Taric, but can be just as good. Meapak should take this. 12. Sandroba - 50/50 Orianna/Mordekaiser + Show Spoiler + I know sandroba said he won't be here to coordinate, but if he's still deliberating, I think one of these two would be good for him. 13. Kenpachi - 50/50 Syndra/Poppy + Show Spoiler +  dont take talon this game kenpachi, or I will write another story about you being a fat GF.15. bumatlarge - Tryndamere + Show Spoiler + I feel like tryn is too threatening for mafia, and hopefully mafia won't take it, or I'll know. I hopefully won't use it. I didn't fill out the last slots this time, as I think it's just best for them to take what they can get, and it would be good for town for them to check optional roles. There are still too many roles that mafia can use to check. Again this is just optional suggestions that I think would put town in a strong spot. | ||
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geript
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On December 02 2013 04:32 supersoft wrote: actually this post is quite decent. We need to discuss this now. Otherwise we screw up the whole game! I swear there are roles that punish role claiming | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On December 02 2013 05:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: chose [17][5] Now. Honestly I do agree with bum that we should be selecting roles that the top 7 players choose. This is purely to make sure the roles that are hugely important are well, known. However I disagree with his list a bit. I honestly think warwick is not as much of a threat as he thinks it is. Why? Because it requires active knowledge of peoples roles for mafia to use it properly. It is a role that late game the mafia perhaps could use if people start claiming or what not but honestly I believe in a pyp setup no one should really ever claim unless they are 100% dead to a lynch. IMO only the people in the top 7 slots should be claiming in the event that they attempt to take their allotted role and they don't get it. IE someone in the list above them sniped the role and let theirs drop down to someone else. As such Number 1 pick should be Viktor. The inventor role is crazy strong in the hands of mafia or town, but knowing who has the role is insanely important. Number 2 should be Kassadin Number 3 should be Heimerdinger Number 4 should be Tryndamere Number 5 should be Singed Number 6 should be Janna Number 7 should be Blitzcrank Past this people should be assessing what would be the best pick at their number. Denying mafia roles, attempting to take investigative, medic, vet like, etc... will all depend on your style of play and your strengths. If you are a analyzer you should be saving yourself, taking a dt role or a gun to kill your reads. If you are good at the long haul play go for things that keep you alive, or keep others alive, etc.. Those 7 roles I think are by far the most important to lock down. For anyone who asks why singed and blitzcrank? Moving people around the list lets other players do more or less. Mafia having control of them, or a majority of them could potentially fuck us hard. Also knowing whos causing damage / playing with the list I think is incredibly important information to have. God damn BC, I thought I just refreshed the page too. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On December 02 2013 06:07 Risen wrote: I swear there are roles that punish role claiming More importantly. Roles do not equal alignment in these setups. Just cause someone as a "pro scum" role doesn't make them pro scum or someone with a pro town role make them town. Pyp is a game where someones actions are the most important. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 02 2013 06:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: hahaha Bum. I honestly think your intents are awesome but the top 15 players? I think thats a little hopeful to get people to follow Yeah, and your (bum) analysis was decent until a little before halfway through, where it breaks down a bit. Although I respect you trying to coordinate the list so you can get the champ you want =P | ||
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