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[WCS] Global Finals 2013 Day 1 - Page 231
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Olli
Austria24416 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:01 Dinotramp wrote: I really don't understand why SO many people love Jaedong. I understand all the history behind him and BW and such but he's such a dull player to watch in game. Unless you watched him at his prime in BW, rampaging through his very first OSL all the way to the top, unless you actually understand and appreciate his sheer determination, sheer bloody-minded refusal to admit the possibility of failure, sheer drive and force of will, you will never understand why people will always love and support him so much. Jaedong is the everyday joe who made it happen, who crawled and ground his way up with unswerving dedication and borderline inhuman work ethic. He became who is because he refused to quit, refused to give himself a break, refused to accept that he may have to slow down and face the inevitable decline of every pro gamer. He is the Rocky of Esports. And that is fucking awesome. | ||
opterown
Australia54735 Posts
naniwa interview after his win! + Show Spoiler + Blizzard: What was your strategy going into the game against Revival? NaNiwa: I watched every VoD he played over the last few months so I would be familiar with him. Every player has his own traits and habits because we play the game for so many hours in the day. So, some things are set in stone. So I was trying to find what parts of him were set in stone so I could abuse it. I noticed that he never makes a really fast Spawning Pool. So in Game 1, I made the greediest build in the entire game but I was confident that he would not punish it. I started seeing an easy win because I haven’t lost with that build in practice ever. I think it was really good and important to set the pace for the entire series. Blizzard: What made that first game so easy? NaNiwa: It’s the best build I have in PvZ and I thought there was a lot of importance placed on this one match. So, I have to bring out my best build because winning this first game is really important mentally, because if you lose that first game it’s easy to get caught in a downward spiral. If I had lost the first game, I would have felt like perhaps my preparation wasn’t as good as I’d thought. That would’ve cast some doubts on me. But I won the game very easily and very convincingly so I thought “Okay, my plan seems to be working well.” So I just kept on with my plan. Everything I did went okay except in Game 2. My practice partners didn’t do that one kind of response. He made a lot of Roaches really fast and he killed my Forge and my third base. I’m not familiar with that early timing and I think I could’ve handled it a lot better. Because he invested so much in the early attack, he was very weak to a counter attack. Because if you invest in an early game, you sacrifice some economy and some tech, so he had a lot lower gas and a lot lower minerals than he should have had. I thought, “If I just attack now, I’ll have a chance.” I’d say it was a 30% chance. But because he thought he was so safe, he made a fourth base, I think my chances went up to 60% that it would work. So I think everything went in my favor. Blizzard: Revival had a strong two-pronged attack on one of your southern bases in that third game. Was that one of his most threatening moves in the series? NaNiwa: I actually forgot about the Warp Gate for about 30 seconds or so, which is a pretty big deal. It slowed down my Zealot attack a lot. Usually it’s supposed to come earlier so that he can’t have a lot of Roaches. But he had so many Roaches and so few Drones at the third base, I thought it was kind of similar to Game 2. The difference is, now I had a lot more Sentries, a lot more energy, and I could do a lot more with the force fields. It all came down to my own control. When I got the six force fields down around the Roaches near the bottom, I thought I had won the game. Blizzard: Let’s turn our attention to this weekend. How are you going to prepare for Soulkey? NaNiwa: I don’t think he’s foolish enough to not see the games that I just played. Even if he were to underestimate me, which there’s a chance since he’s number one, every player at this level can beat the other players too. So I think he will be careful. I can’t explain 100% what I’m going to do, because he might read this, but I’m going to study him as well and see if there’s a weak point to him. Blizzard: How much was Soulkey on your mind in getting ready for Revival? NaNiwa: Obviously, it makes everything a bit harder, right? To be honest, I didn’t think about BlizzCon at all. I came here to play this one match. BlizzCon is just a bonus. Now that this is done, I’ll just focus on that with a fresh mindset. It’s a bit annoying, but I’m not the kind of player that needs a lot of time to prepare for a player. I can adapt to him very fast. It also depends on what kind of stuff I can see from other Korean players. So it will be hard. Blizzard: You made yourself some money today. How do you like the tiebreaker process now? NaNiwa: It would’ve been nicer if I didn’t have to fight for it (laughs). Obviously, it’s really nice. I came in second place at IEM-New York, I beat like four Koreans and I got $4,000. And here I won just one match and I got $5,000. Moneywise, it’s really good but I stopped playing this game for money a long time ago. For me, it’s about playing my best and enjoying what I do. I don’t see this like a job, it’s my passion. | ||
lystier
China877 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:17 Squat wrote: Unless you watched him at his prime in BW, rampaging through his very first OSL all the way to the top, unless you actually understand and appreciate his sheer determination, sheer bloody-minded refusal to admit the possibility of failure, sheer drive and force of will, you will never understand why people will always love and support him so much. Jaedong is the everyday joe who made it happen, who crawled and ground his way up with unswerving dedication and borderline inhuman work ethic. He became who is because he refused to quit, refused to give himself a break, refused to accept that he may have to slow down and face the inevitable decline of every pro gamer. He is the Rocky of Esports. And that is fucking awesome. Great answer! | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
I'd rather not have the final be awful, you know like every single hero-taeja series ever. | ||
Olli
Austria24416 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:48 Fusilero wrote: I'd rather not have the final be awful, you know like every single hero-taeja series ever. Hey, at least the last two series they played were a display of perfection from one side. 7-0 :D Also HerO winning is never awful. | ||
AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:17 Squat wrote: Unless you watched him at his prime in BW, rampaging through his very first OSL all the way to the top, unless you actually understand and appreciate his sheer determination, sheer bloody-minded refusal to admit the possibility of failure, sheer drive and force of will, you will never understand why people will always love and support him so much. Jaedong is the everyday joe who made it happen, who crawled and ground his way up with unswerving dedication and borderline inhuman work ethic. He became who is because he refused to quit, refused to give himself a break, refused to accept that he may have to slow down and face the inevitable decline of every pro gamer. He is the Rocky of Esports. And that is fucking awesome. This is John the translator level material. There's some pretty deep fucking hype going around right now. | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 06 2013 20:00 AlgeriaT wrote: This is John the translator level material. There's some pretty deep fucking hype going around right now. I do not know who this John the translator gentleman is, but I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless. | ||
sninja
Poland207 Posts
Indeed a great answer! On a serious note, I never watched BW and came to sc2 from war3 where I had some favourite players (MaD FroG for instance :D) but after sinking deeper and deeper into sc, getting to know the history of some players, all came to a point where I am now - playing hardly 1-2 hours a week (due to... life :S) but following the scene and watching the tournaments (hell - I canceled my shifts on Friday/Saturday! XD) and I have no idea why or how did it happen but Jaedong became my fav player of all times. He just owns XD GO DONG | ||
AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
On November 06 2013 20:11 Squat wrote: I do not know who this John the translator gentleman is, but I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless. | ||
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On November 06 2013 19:41 lichter wrote: I will buy one next week probs do research before you buy whatever. sadly, the mouse wizard hates everything: Original Message From Cyro: cm storm spawn pretty much though its not available atm in europe (til version 2 release) everything sucks G9x is cool tho ~~~~~~ | ||
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:01 Dinotramp wrote: I really don't understand why SO many people love Jaedong. I understand all the history behind him and BW and such but he's such a dull player to watch in game. How is he dull to watch, when every body was doing the SH turtle bull shit, he was the only one to keep playing an aggressive/multitasking focused style. Granted that lost him a ton of games and he became famous for bad zvp, but it was still better to watch than the other zvps. He also has that star sense and goes all in in just the right moments, from early pools to 50 mutas you don't know what to expect, I think he is the most exciting player. Well I love him, because the first starcraft game I watched was him winning WCG. I only played and watched wc3 until then, but he got me interested in stardraft. | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Sometimes my passion for Jaedong gets the better of me and I just start rambling. If he beats MVP I may just blow a valve and let rip with something insane. | ||
freeMaRin
China6 Posts
On November 06 2013 19:17 Squat wrote: Unless you watched him at his prime in BW, rampaging through his very first OSL all the way to the top, unless you actually understand and appreciate his sheer determination, sheer bloody-minded refusal to admit the possibility of failure, sheer drive and force of will, you will never understand why people will always love and support him so much. Jaedong is the everyday joe who made it happen, who crawled and ground his way up with unswerving dedication and borderline inhuman work ethic. He became who is because he refused to quit, refused to give himself a break, refused to accept that he may have to slow down and face the inevitable decline of every pro gamer. He is the Rocky of Esports. And that is fucking awesome. Cannot agree more. Actually I call it the spirit of an athelete. There is absolutely no 'failure' in JD's dictionary. | ||
lystier
China877 Posts
On November 06 2013 20:35 Squat wrote: I blush and squirm in my chair as I type this at being compared to such a lofty community figure, I am unworthy! Sometimes my passion for Jaedong gets the better of me and I just start rambling. If he beats MVP I may just blow a valve and let rip with something insane. I'm in some sort of dilemma, my best friend is a crazy mvp-fan, and it looks like the last best chance Mvp has for his starcraft career. I won't be happy either one win that gameT___T | ||
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