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On July 11 2012 23:28 Mr.Bimbles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 23:10 Heh_ wrote: Oh hey look another one. The real person who posted this spent (wasted) a lot of time writing this... Uhhm, the real person? You know diablo777=Mrbimbles Wow, some epic mind games going on there.
During the time you spent writing this, you could have found another game and played it for a few hours.
Or you could just stop playing much sooner if you were so sick of the game.
You should read your signature too.
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I found it funny that you got bored with it during the first week and still managed to log 500+ hours. I'm not even at 300 yet and still having fun. Read some of the points and most of them were just Diablo 2 had it, Diablo 3 should have it
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please define what a video game must have to qualify as "good". If keeping you playing for 500+ hours isn't enough, what is? Oo i mean, are you looking for a second life for yourself or what? 500+ hours for 60 bucks is a RIDICULOUSLY good value for money, and 500+ hours out of one game either means it was well worth your time as well, which in my eyes would make it a good game, or it means it wasn't worth your time but you were an idiot for keeping playing this long and should visit an addiction clinic to learn about self control before buying your next game.
Listing a lot of points on which could be improved is all good and well, but if a hundred of these points were not bad enough to stop you from playing the game was obviously still good enough. What are you even looking for? a perfect game where you cannot find anything to criticize? that's simply impossible.Just stop playing it if you don't enjoy it and don't go on a rampage of hate afterwards, using the time you feel you wasted as blame, because that wasted time is on your head, not theirs.
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Took about an hour to read but I loved every second of it : ) Not only was it spot on, it was really funny too. It's too bad TL and Bnet forum users spend so much time picking apart your points and totally missing the point of it. Not to mention the humour. You should be the lead designer, not "Jay boy" heheh
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Read the whole first post. Didn't like it. It first tries to build credibility by stating the commitment to the game (new pc, desk, 500 hr playtime, etc...) and then goes on with a seemingly endless list of criticisms that can be categorized as one of the following:
- It's not Diablo 2. (most points fall in this category) - Duplicate points (4 different points about bugs, multiple points about lack of exploration, etc...) - Points that contradict eachother (complaing about bots / exploiters while also complaining about people getting banned) - Filler-points just to get to a total of 100 ("Monsters and Boss's don't change colours and appearance throughout the different difficulties", Really?)
While there are certainly some fair criticisms hidden here and there, the whole post just seems to be a big whine post that tries to look credible by starting with the whole "Look how committed I was to the game" rhetoric followed by sheer volume of text, trying to look impressive.
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On July 11 2012 11:17 Mr.Bimbles wrote: I was looking forward to this game been releases for years. I was going to rely on this game to keep me occupied for many years to come. I thought this game you would be able to spend hours having fun it was so big. This game I expected so many different things to do it would be MIND BLOWING.
Within a week I got bored.
Now 500+ hours of playing this game, Killed Diablo in Inferno, Got allmost all the Achievments, Got many lvl 60 Characters.... Hundreds of hours of farming and grinding....
Honestly stopped reading after this, in part because it is a giant wall of text, in part because this is the mentality that drives me nuts. You paid something close to equivalent to $60 for this game (not sure how much it cost you exactly), got over 500 hours of entertainment out of it, are now "bored" with it, and the game... sucks?
These are the people that will never be satisfied with anything, no matter what. You probably could have paid for the game by now (by using the RMAH), with that much time spent in it, and possibly even turned a profit. Which means you got 500+ hours of FREE entertainment, but no, the game is still trash. I imagine you're the type of person that if the game gave you a BJ every time you turned it on, you would say you got a better one from a real girl one time (although, with that much time spent on video games, that is unlikely).
I have much different expectations on the entertainment value I expect from a $60 video game. Some people will never be satisfied, no matter what I guess.
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As a person with hobby in writing, I can tell how much diablo as a game meant to OP. Guys, producing a huge wall of text, even the whole thing could be a huge whining post (which is not, at least to me), requires ALOT of passion to the discussed topic lol
I finish half the way till 50 because i rolled down and saw the 100 lol i may finish this next time. I really agree to what you said. D3 should be an improvement of D2 but this so called 'D3' is a step-back of D2. They could have done so much more for the game. The game is a good production i suppose but I can't see any bit of genius or brilliant design like D2 used to awe me.
Seriously Blizzard North is the real sh!t with true talent is what i can conclude from the recent bliz games.
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On July 12 2012 00:16 HardlyNever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:17 Mr.Bimbles wrote: I was looking forward to this game been releases for years. I was going to rely on this game to keep me occupied for many years to come. I thought this game you would be able to spend hours having fun it was so big. This game I expected so many different things to do it would be MIND BLOWING.
Within a week I got bored.
Now 500+ hours of playing this game, Killed Diablo in Inferno, Got allmost all the Achievments, Got many lvl 60 Characters.... Hundreds of hours of farming and grinding....
Honestly stopped reading after this, in part because it is a giant wall of text, in part because this is the mentality that drives me nuts. You paid something close to equivalent to $60 for this game (not sure how much it cost you exactly), got over 500 hours of entertainment out of it, are now "bored" with it, and the game... sucks? Poor way of looking at it. If someone waits 12 years for something and eagerly goes into it trying to make it fun and enjoy it as much as possible, they can still realize afterward that it sucked and they wasted their time trying to enjoy it/wait for it to improve.
Time is quantifiable, enjoyment isn't. If you pay me $60 I'll come kick you in the balls for 100 hours, that should be worth it because that's really good money for time, right?
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re #5 if you think the game is too easy why didn't you play HC? Only 5 people have beaten inferno on HC so far so I think you can hardly say HC is too easy. It's so weird to me that people play a game with an unlimited lives cheat on and then complain that it's not a challenge.
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You got your money's worth 500+ hours is more than you get for most games.....
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Yeah, seems like several points were there just to get to 100. Also some criticism is just unnecessary. Repetitive sound effects, boss colours, light radius, dyes giving stats, no stamina, bonus on flags? Couldn't care less about any of that.
Also nobody needs 10 chars. With the crappy skill- and combatsystem that is in place i barely want to play a third character. Don't tell me anyone is actually playing 10 characters. If you have one lvl 60 Wizard you have seen everything. No need to ever start a Wizard again in your life. Can swap skillbuild and use the same gear on any build anyways.
There are some valid points in the OP though. The game clearly has problems and i see little reason to keep playing this. After you beat inferno there really isn't anything motivating to do.
For me the biggest problems are the very low and easily achievable level cap, the uninteresting items and boring farming game and the fact that starting a new character is just a pain instead of fun because everything up to lvl 60 is wasted time and space. As I said, there is no reason to start a wizard ever again if you already have one. Itembuilds are so simplified that Int/Vit/Crit just works on any skillbuild with a wizard. Why the hell would anyone want to start a new wizard when gear diversity and the skillbuild dont fuckin matter at all. Just get Int/Crit and you are set with any wizard. Once you have the gear that can clear inferno the game is over for you.
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On July 12 2012 00:24 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 00:16 HardlyNever wrote:On July 11 2012 11:17 Mr.Bimbles wrote: I was looking forward to this game been releases for years. I was going to rely on this game to keep me occupied for many years to come. I thought this game you would be able to spend hours having fun it was so big. This game I expected so many different things to do it would be MIND BLOWING.
Within a week I got bored.
Now 500+ hours of playing this game, Killed Diablo in Inferno, Got allmost all the Achievments, Got many lvl 60 Characters.... Hundreds of hours of farming and grinding....
Honestly stopped reading after this, in part because it is a giant wall of text, in part because this is the mentality that drives me nuts. You paid something close to equivalent to $60 for this game (not sure how much it cost you exactly), got over 500 hours of entertainment out of it, are now "bored" with it, and the game... sucks? Poor way of looking at it. If someone waits 12 years for something and eagerly goes into it trying to make it fun and enjoy it as much as possible, they can still realize afterward that it sucked and they wasted their time trying to enjoy it/wait for it to improve. Time is quantifiable, enjoyment isn't. If you pay me $60 I'll come kick you in the balls for 100 hours, that should be worth it because that's really good money for time, right?
Umm... are you serious? This must be a troll response, but I'll bite.
He VOLUNTARILY CHOSE to play 500+ hours of the game. CHOSE TO DO IT. He didn't have to do it if he wasn't enjoying it. I would never chose for you to "kick me in the balls," much less pay for it.
Please tell me you were trolling before my head asplodes.
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On July 11 2012 11:43 Acumen wrote: tl;dr
User was banned for this post. I don't really feel a ban is justifyed in this particular case =P. I mean look at it.
User was warned for this post
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On July 12 2012 00:29 HardlyNever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 00:24 Dfgj wrote:On July 12 2012 00:16 HardlyNever wrote:On July 11 2012 11:17 Mr.Bimbles wrote: I was looking forward to this game been releases for years. I was going to rely on this game to keep me occupied for many years to come. I thought this game you would be able to spend hours having fun it was so big. This game I expected so many different things to do it would be MIND BLOWING.
Within a week I got bored.
Now 500+ hours of playing this game, Killed Diablo in Inferno, Got allmost all the Achievments, Got many lvl 60 Characters.... Hundreds of hours of farming and grinding....
Honestly stopped reading after this, in part because it is a giant wall of text, in part because this is the mentality that drives me nuts. You paid something close to equivalent to $60 for this game (not sure how much it cost you exactly), got over 500 hours of entertainment out of it, are now "bored" with it, and the game... sucks? Poor way of looking at it. If someone waits 12 years for something and eagerly goes into it trying to make it fun and enjoy it as much as possible, they can still realize afterward that it sucked and they wasted their time trying to enjoy it/wait for it to improve. Time is quantifiable, enjoyment isn't. If you pay me $60 I'll come kick you in the balls for 100 hours, that should be worth it because that's really good money for time, right? Umm... are you serious? This must be a troll response, but I'll bite. He VOLUNTARILY CHOSE to play 500+ hours of the game. CHOSE TO DO IT. He didn't have to do it if he wasn't enjoying it. I would never chose for you to "kick me in the balls," much less pay for it. Please tell me you were trolling before my head asplodes. You must have never waited for something and wanted it to be good.
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On July 12 2012 00:46 sandroba wrote:I don't really feel a ban is justifyed in this particular case =P. I mean look at it. If there ever was a thread where a tl;dr should not be bannable, this is it. But then again, for a first post, there is not going to be anything useful from that person.
Skimmed and read almost all of it. Agree with pretty much everything. Sure, Blizzard have addressed a lot of the points he makes, with reasonable explanations for most of those points. It is pretty horrific how often those explanations has turned out to be wrong though. They do not understand their own game.
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On July 12 2012 00:48 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 00:29 HardlyNever wrote:On July 12 2012 00:24 Dfgj wrote:On July 12 2012 00:16 HardlyNever wrote:On July 11 2012 11:17 Mr.Bimbles wrote: I was looking forward to this game been releases for years. I was going to rely on this game to keep me occupied for many years to come. I thought this game you would be able to spend hours having fun it was so big. This game I expected so many different things to do it would be MIND BLOWING.
Within a week I got bored.
Now 500+ hours of playing this game, Killed Diablo in Inferno, Got allmost all the Achievments, Got many lvl 60 Characters.... Hundreds of hours of farming and grinding....
Honestly stopped reading after this, in part because it is a giant wall of text, in part because this is the mentality that drives me nuts. You paid something close to equivalent to $60 for this game (not sure how much it cost you exactly), got over 500 hours of entertainment out of it, are now "bored" with it, and the game... sucks? Poor way of looking at it. If someone waits 12 years for something and eagerly goes into it trying to make it fun and enjoy it as much as possible, they can still realize afterward that it sucked and they wasted their time trying to enjoy it/wait for it to improve. Time is quantifiable, enjoyment isn't. If you pay me $60 I'll come kick you in the balls for 100 hours, that should be worth it because that's really good money for time, right? Umm... are you serious? This must be a troll response, but I'll bite. He VOLUNTARILY CHOSE to play 500+ hours of the game. CHOSE TO DO IT. He didn't have to do it if he wasn't enjoying it. I would never chose for you to "kick me in the balls," much less pay for it. Please tell me you were trolling before my head asplodes. You must have never waited for something and wanted it to be good.
Don't assume what I "must have never."
Clearly we have different expectations of what a $60 game should provide. I'm not sure what you want for $60, but it seems like you probably live a life full of disappointment if 500+ hours of entertainment is not enough for $60.
If he wasn't enjoying it, he didn't have to put "500+" hours in. I would even argue he WOULDN'T have put 500+ hours in if he didn't enjoy it at all. And if he sat there hating the first 450 hours of the game but said "I hated every minute of this 450 hours, but I'm sure the last 50 hours will be a the breakthrough moment," well, he's not too bright imo.
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I agree with almost everything said. I can even justify him on the "500 hours on the game he didn't like". I was the same - first several weeks I was pretty content playing with friends, or alone, then I reached the endgame... farming, and farming and farming for gold/better gear alone (except for party farming goblins, how "fun" it was). I uninstalled like 3 weeks ago.
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Just wanted to comment on the argument about hours played.
Starcraft Brood War, released in 1998 Diablo 2 lord of destruction released 2001 Warcraft 3 released 2002
All of these provided years of entertainment and to some extent are still played today.
This is on team liquid after all, Starcraft 2 released in 2010 is still providing entertainment and if brood war is anything to go by, after the expansions are out Sc2 will still be played for many more years to come. The expectations for diablo 3 to provide years of entertainment is entirely understandable.
However D3 has not lived up to its potential and in many ways has less features than its predecessors, such as diablo 2 or torchlight. It can provide a few hundred hours worth of entertainment but will it still be played in years to come?
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