Imo BW does the RTS thing better than any other game, so if i wanna play a straight up RTS might as well not spend time on other games. Or if i want a team based relaxed game, i can shoot up LoL and have a blast. SC2 doesnt fit in that thought process frankly.
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.
It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.
Any of you play both BW and SC2 simultaniously? Its hard as hell. I dunno why the BW pros put up with that. I dont see how they could possibly play at their best at either game.
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .
nice argument
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.
It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.
So you agree that people who don't want to move to sc2 are stubborn just because they don't like it ? . I don't see authors or writers even repeat them selves understand and understand understand for the god knows umpteen times . Pretty good english working at hand here though.
On July 09 2012 21:10 DyEnasTy wrote: Any of you play both BW and SC2 simultaniously? Its hard as hell. I dunno why the BW pros put up with that. I dont see how they could possibly play at their best at either game.
I did, and it is hard. Hotkeys are different, the feel is different and many other things are different. For progamers, the pressure to perform well in SC2 is definitely a huge burden.
Thread has run its course though... The OP is an idiot(makes such a thread with a so called "joke" at the end[with a sad true backstory T_T]), probably laughing now seeing the replies.
I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.
P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.
On July 09 2012 21:16 greggy wrote: I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.
P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.
To be honest it's not arguments why it's better we need, it's a better game. I believe the wide majority of BW players and fans on Teamliquid have at some point tried picking SC2 up, but simply not enjoyed it. I know this was the case for me, and you may claim that it's just a matter of a few new rules with the new era but then you have obviously never been very immersed in Brood War.
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
You can't even spell understand come back when you can type properly .
nice argument
On July 09 2012 20:11 pOnarreT wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 09 2012 19:22 pOnarreT wrote: You should add a number 4. The people who can't handle change and are stubborn.
BW fans are like those basketball fans arguing Jordan era is better than Kobe era. They are correct, but there is nothing that can be done, his time is past due and its time for the new. But if your a true fan of the game, you still love basketball regardless and still enjoy the new. Of course many would say BW is different than SC2, or why am I using basketball as a comparison or whatever, hence the stubborn part.
But of course, I said add this as a number 4 option. It's obvious not all BW fans can't handle change and are stubborn.
This post is full of stupid.... People that loves BW does not have to love SC2.... Terrible analogy. Just because they have the same prefix - Starcraft, that dont mean its the same. Stubborn? I might say something bad here....so bleh...
Only non-stupid people will undestand... so I understand why you can't understand. Stubborness in this post showing, exactly as I said
He use the word understand 3 times and yet it doesn't comes out coherent at all and it takes a genius to come to conclusion that a poster is stubborn just from a few words he posted and yeah . So yeah bring more arguments and while you do that take your time to read it again and again if it sounds stupid don't post it.
It's perfectly coherent if you can actually understand english. And the analogy is pretty good if I may add.
So you agree that people who don't want to move to sc2 are stubborn just because they don't like it ? . I don't see authors or writers even repeat them selves understand and understand understand for the god knows umpteen times . Pretty good english working at hand here though.
If you care to actually read, he said that it should be added as an option. He even said that it's obvious that not all BW fans are stubborn, as such, should only be an option, in his last sentence. Oh, and since you were picking on his "undestand" spelling, "them selves" should be one word.
On July 09 2012 21:16 greggy wrote: I agree with the sentiment that there are people who have decided in their head that sc2 is worse and will not hear any other argument against their most favourite game, no matter how good the argument may be.
P.S. Authors don't argue bullshit on game forums either.
To be honest it's not arguments why it's better we need, it's a better game. I believe the wide majority of BW players and fans on Teamliquid have at some point tried picking SC2 up, but simply not enjoyed it. I know this was the case for me, and you may claim that it's just a matter of a few new rules with the new era but then you have obviously never been very immersed in Brood War.
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote: I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.
It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.
nailed it
wow, BW players are acutally the most arrogant guys ever. i once had huge respect for BW players cause the game looked and is fucking hard, then i found out how most of the community thinks and how mediocre the best BW foreigers are in a new game compared to old war3 players. pretty sad.
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote: I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.
It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.
nailed it
wow, BW players are acutally the most arrogant guys ever. i once had huge respect for BW players cause the game looked and is fucking hard, then i found out how most of the community thinks and how mediocre the best BW foreigers are in a new game compared to old war3 players. pretty sad.
If you really think that's arrogant, we'll do without your respect.
I played DotA way before SC2 came out, so it's fair to say that my preference towards DotA/LoL (I play both, though not very often) has been biased due to my previous experience with those games. I bought SC2, beat the campaign, tried a couple games... then let it go. As a spectator eSport, BW is still #1.
after I've reread the whole thread I got a headache. I arrived at the conclusion, that all those god damn sequels, dotas, moba, switching, not switching and other things shall be a forever testament of how good BW actually was for me.
My friend falls under the first category. When SC2 came out his biggest complaint was that it was nothing like BW. That "Blizzard could have marketed SC2 under a name not related to Starcraft and no one would notice." This was the reason that he refused to play SC2. As soon as LOL came out he began to play LOL. When I pointed out that SC2 was more closely related to BW than LOL, he replied with a polite, "Fuck you."
What I still don't get is why people argue over matters of preference. Come on, is it really hard to believe I might like something you don't? There's nothing wrong with preferring BW over SC2 or vice versa, and articulating that opinion. Just realize that you are not the center of the world and that your opinions and preferences are not universal. To "not understand" why people have different tastes than you is just arrogant as fuck.
I'm really confused why are people making the comparison of moba's to rts in terms of fan-base in the first place, they play out almost completely differently, the only discernible trait that you can argue carries over is stop animation micro, that's it. Why force the argument? You like them for completely different reasons.
On July 08 2012 23:34 vOdToasT wrote: I think it's because while DotA is not as amazing as Brood War, it is in a different genre of games than Brood War. This makes it easier to transition to. StarCraft 2 is in the same genre as Brood War, but much worse.
It's easier to change to something that is different altogether, than something that is just inferior. SC2 is just a shitty RTS, an inferior version of SC1, but DotA is something different. When you're used to playing a good RTS, switching to a mediocre one is harder than switching to a DotA game.
SC2 is just shitty RTS ?... how you hit that much post on TL .. writing that kind of shitt...