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On January 02 2012 01:28 Randrak wrote: will there be a free to watch stream for this event?
yes of course. There'll be a free stream with reduced quality and a HD Stream (to access that you have to buy a HD Pass for the event or you have to be ESL TV Premium Subscriber)
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Do we know the other 6 blurred faces yet? I haven't been in the know on who's coming but mu guess from them + Show Spoiler +Socke SeleCT White-ra Dimaga
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On January 02 2012 02:00 Denzil wrote:Do we know the other 6 blurred faces yet? I haven't been in the know on who's coming but mu guess from them + Show Spoiler +Socke SeleCT White-ra Dimaga
The OP pic isnt updated yet, go to taketv.net for the newest one^^
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On January 01 2012 23:47 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 21:36 Bojas wrote: It's hard to calculate I guess but I'm having problems believing that practice time would earn more money in the long run then attending this tournament. They can also practice there for a weekend, there's a practice room. Maybe it's the jet lag and stress from travelling. playing there isnt practice, you cant play with your team or other koreans from europe. you lose 2 days traveling plus 2 or 3 days at the tournament, then you're jetlagged when you get back. you spend a day getting comfortable playing again. and that time for improving your play and studying your opponents is gone for good. you have 3 opponents and maps are loser pick out of an 8 map pool. thats a lot of potential scenarios to prepare for. its not just improving base skill, but preparation thats the big deal with gsl. because if his opponents dont travel they will spend all that time learning how he plays and practicing specific builds on specific maps. Yes but Naniwa isn't exactly playing much gsl for that week/month. I agree that actual GSL players should skip it for that matter.
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2012 will be really interesting. We all know that a lot of traveling got bad influence on players practice schedules and we can only play "what if" game to know what is really better for some players. Lets take HuK for example.
What if HuK stayed in Korea (back when he was at Liquid) and didn't attend Dreamhack Summer 2011, HSC 3, MLG Orlando and Providance... Would he won any of the GSL's in 2011? Becasue he traveled a lot he earned like 30k+ from these tournamnets, and if you do ok'ish in GSL code S you get like 2k per month. So can we really say traveling for HuK was bad idea?
Lets take Idra. He played in GSL from start, he did very well, he left Korea and joined EG for a simple reason that he said many times in interviews. In Korea there is only GSL, and in US/EU there is MLG/IPL/DH/ESL/Asembly/Blizzcon/NASL (overall like 12 events, in 2012 it will be even more with 4x IPL's). If you fail in your 1st games of GSL season your out of money for a month, and competition is the hardest in the world. So would Idra do more money staying in Korea and play GSL's instead of going to almost every tournament in US/EU?
Its hard to say what is really better right now, with only 1 big event in Korea that is hosted monthly or travel a lot sacrifice your training and earn money that way. Thats why I said at beginning 2012 will be very interesting because we will see how players will adapt, after experiences of 2011.
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Just bought my HD pass :D Cant wait
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On January 02 2012 02:40 Bojas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 23:47 IdrA wrote:On January 01 2012 21:36 Bojas wrote: It's hard to calculate I guess but I'm having problems believing that practice time would earn more money in the long run then attending this tournament. They can also practice there for a weekend, there's a practice room. Maybe it's the jet lag and stress from travelling. playing there isnt practice, you cant play with your team or other koreans from europe. you lose 2 days traveling plus 2 or 3 days at the tournament, then you're jetlagged when you get back. you spend a day getting comfortable playing again. and that time for improving your play and studying your opponents is gone for good. you have 3 opponents and maps are loser pick out of an 8 map pool. thats a lot of potential scenarios to prepare for. its not just improving base skill, but preparation thats the big deal with gsl. because if his opponents dont travel they will spend all that time learning how he plays and practicing specific builds on specific maps. Yes but Naniwa isn't exactly playing much gsl for that week/month. I agree that actual GSL players should skip it for that matter. naniwa is aiming for the stars! he wants that dam GSL. Although I'd love to have naniwa in HSC, i would much rather see naniwa win a future GSL. He'd be the highest paid foreigner in a millisecond if he won it just because of all the publicity he'd get. So i support his decision to continue training.
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Bulkers, Good point about the GSL and Idra. Forgot how many events US has compared to the be-all and end-all GSL. I even find Artosis and Tasteless are gone a lot of the time for these "other" US events and the substitute casting is less than par.
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We need to remember that almost nothing has been announced for 2012... there might be a dreamhack invitational or something lurking in the near future that gets priority over hsc...
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On January 02 2012 05:51 kovac wrote: We need to remember that almost nothing has been announced for 2012... there might be a dreamhack invitational or something lurking in the near future that gets priority over hsc...
All announcements are made way before a week of the event.
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I have tried to look at this page and the qualification post, but the link to taketv had not updated the results, so anyone know if Nerchio, Stephano or Idra will play?
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I believe idra will be doing Code S, no?
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On January 02 2012 07:51 HowardRoark wrote: I have tried to look at this page and the qualification post, but the link to taketv had not updated the results, so anyone know if Nerchio, Stephano or Idra will play?
The list according to Blizzard is:
Tarson, GoOdy, Naama, ThorZaIN, DemusliM, ClouD, KawaiiRice, Sounds, MarineKing, White-Ra, iNcontroL, HerO, Grubby, MC, HasuObs, NightEnD, ReaL, BlinG, Adelscott, Attero, Socke, NaNiwa, DIMAGA, DarkFoRcE, HayprO, Stephano, Ret, MoMaN, Destiny, Nerchio, viOLet plus a "mystery protoss player" who is JYP.
This is the latest information which has been given. However White-Ra stated he is only 50% sure he is going. Also the Koreans might be playing GSL. NaNiwa has stated he will not go. No one really knows the official player list - not even Blizzard. Also EG announced on their website that JYP will be at HSC IV so he is the mystery protoss player.
Only TaKe knows and he is MIA at the moment it seems like
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the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him.
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On January 02 2012 08:08 mono_regio wrote: the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him.
I hope not, the hype with the announcement of a new player turning up to be average korean player was enough. I want someone well known like Idra, DRG, MVP
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On January 02 2012 08:25 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 08:08 mono_regio wrote: the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him. I hope not, the hype with the announcement of a new player turning up to be average korean player was enough. I want someone well known like Idra, DRG, MVP
There's no hoping. EG announced it on their website - it's pretty much confirmed. Also NO ONE in Code S is just average...
From EG's website:
"A former teammate of current EG member Lee “PuMa” Ho Joon at Team SCV Life, JYP recently secured a spot in Code-S for Season 1 of GSL 2012. Next week, he will suit up in the EG blue as he departs for Germany to compete at HomeStoryCup IV against some of toughest competition outside of Korea."
http://myeg.net/team/team-eg-welcomes-jyp/
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On January 02 2012 08:27 mki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 08:25 Ryps wrote:On January 02 2012 08:08 mono_regio wrote: the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him. I hope not, the hype with the announcement of a new player turning up to be average korean player was enough. I want someone well known like Idra, DRG, MVP There's no hoping. EG announced it on their website - it's pretty much confirmed. Also NO ONE in Code S is just average... From EG's website: "A former teammate of current EG member Lee “PuMa” Ho Joon at Team SCV Life, JYP recently secured a spot in Code-S for Season 1 of GSL 2012. Next week, he will suit up in the EG blue as he departs for Germany to compete at HomeStoryCup IV against some of toughest competition outside of Korea."http://myeg.net/team/team-eg-welcomes-jyp/
Well thats a bummer. 5-9 (35.71%) record, no wins of any big tournament, its just my opinion hes average in regards with MVP, Nestea, DRG, MKP, MC.... You can consider him great if you want, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
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On January 02 2012 08:32 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 08:27 mki wrote:On January 02 2012 08:25 Ryps wrote:On January 02 2012 08:08 mono_regio wrote: the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him. I hope not, the hype with the announcement of a new player turning up to be average korean player was enough. I want someone well known like Idra, DRG, MVP There's no hoping. EG announced it on their website - it's pretty much confirmed. Also NO ONE in Code S is just average... From EG's website: "A former teammate of current EG member Lee “PuMa” Ho Joon at Team SCV Life, JYP recently secured a spot in Code-S for Season 1 of GSL 2012. Next week, he will suit up in the EG blue as he departs for Germany to compete at HomeStoryCup IV against some of toughest competition outside of Korea."http://myeg.net/team/team-eg-welcomes-jyp/ Well thats a bummer. 5-9 (35.71%) record, no wins of any big tournament, its just my opinion hes average in regards with MVP, Nestea, DRG, MKP, MC.... You can consider him great if you want, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I don't consider him great. I said he's not average. There's a huge difference, please don't turn my words around.
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On January 02 2012 08:32 Ryps wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 08:27 mki wrote:On January 02 2012 08:25 Ryps wrote:On January 02 2012 08:08 mono_regio wrote: the "mystery protoss player" should be JYP after EG signing him. I hope not, the hype with the announcement of a new player turning up to be average korean player was enough. I want someone well known like Idra, DRG, MVP There's no hoping. EG announced it on their website - it's pretty much confirmed. Also NO ONE in Code S is just average... From EG's website: "A former teammate of current EG member Lee “PuMa” Ho Joon at Team SCV Life, JYP recently secured a spot in Code-S for Season 1 of GSL 2012. Next week, he will suit up in the EG blue as he departs for Germany to compete at HomeStoryCup IV against some of toughest competition outside of Korea."http://myeg.net/team/team-eg-welcomes-jyp/ Well thats a bummer. 5-9 (35.71%) record, no wins of any big tournament, its just my opinion hes average in regards with MVP, Nestea, DRG, MKP, MC.... You can consider him great if you want, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Well, step one might be realizing he's a Korean player and looking in the Korean TLPD Smart Other than his abysmal vT, he's pretty good, and he just made Code S.
So, in my opinion, your TLPD skills are below average in regards to other TLers.
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Well thats a bummer. 5-9 (35.71%) record, no wins of any big tournament, its just my opinion hes average in regards with MVP, Nestea, DRG, MKP, MC.... You can consider him great if you want, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
If you compare him to top8 professional players then of course he isnt even average.... but if you compare him to all sc2 progamers he is definitely better than the average sc2 pro
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