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Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard)
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User was temp banned for this post.
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On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... )
Enjoy the break.
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On August 19 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote:Okay Ive been around awhile, and ive been noticing a trend against china? Like seriously wtf, Why do these Americans post stuff about other countries to bash them, just because their own country is failing hardcore. Seems to me all of the American team was + Show Spoiler +. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho. P.S Im "American" lol User was temp banned for this post. Wait what? First off, public schools in America really depend on where you live. I know of public schools that have better education and programs then some of the private schools. Secondly, it's Georgetown, which is far from public seeing as they have some of the highest tuition fees of all American colleges. So not only are you racist, you're also + Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... ) An important part of this (from my understanding) is that there was a lot of tension building between the two teams. And let's be honest, the Chinese team is a group of professionals and while the Georgetown team did not act in a mature or professional manner, neither did the Chinese. While I personally believe that both teams are somewhat at fault, the professionals should have acted maturely. Plus, I might be crazy, but in the video it looked to me like once the fight started the Chinese were being a lot more aggressive and were attacking Hoyas even while they were on the ground. It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Chinese. It has to do with that fact that they are professionals who acted in a very immature and unprofessional manner.
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On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... ) I guess you missed the part where the person was kneed (at what looks close to the groin) by a Chinese player, and gets a no call, after a whole game of no calls to the GT players, and over calls for the Chinese team (cited from a few different articles, and a reporter who was at the game).
So, he responded by shoving the Chinese player. The Chinese player shoves back, and then ANOTHER player shoves the AMerican, both of them shoved him in the head. And then a trainer joins in the fight and stomps on the kid. You are so blatantly naive. You are only 16 years old, you think saying that you played a sport for ONLY 8 years makes you qualified for saying what matters in a game? Please, I played basketball for as many years as you have been alive. Trust me, it does matter, it escalates. Some hold their emotions better than others.
But if you can say that it was the Americans fault, than I can only wonder at who in your life made you predisposed to disliking Americans..
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Actually I saw one of those "officials" in the video just walking non-chalantly by the bench. I'll get a reference point for you in the video..It's pretty sad.
EDIT: First seen at 0:46 mark, and again at the 0:58 mark. To his credit he could be patrolling the crowd to make sure nothing breaks out there, but who knows.
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On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... )
i still think it's really hard to claim the georgetown player "started" it. the chinese player was all over him trying to get the loose ball, and it looked like he kneed him in the side. from there, the georgetown player seems to be pushing the chinese player off him, which is probably unnecessary and obviously a sign of frustration. if you watch 99% of professional NBA players in this position, it would go like this: player pushes the other player off them, other player puts his hands up and says he didn't do anything, player doing the pushing gets a technical. the chinese player absolutely escalated the situation, and considering there were 3 chinese players surrounding the one guy, the other georgetown players had every right to protect their player
ugly all around, and not sure if assigning blame is even correct
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Perhaps this will curb some of the Chinese racism I see that black people are violent brutes.
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On August 19 2011 08:56 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... ) i still think it's really hard to claim the georgetown player "started" it. the chinese player was all over him trying to get the loose ball, and it looked like he kneed him in the side. from there, the georgetown player seems to be pushing the chinese player off him, which is probably unnecessary and obviously a sign of frustration. if you watch 99% of professional NBA players in this position, it would go like this: player pushes the other player off them, other player puts his hands up and says he didn't do anything, player doing the pushing gets a technical. the chinese player absolutely escalated the situation, and considering there were 3 chinese players surrounding the one guy, the other georgetown players had every right to protect their player ugly all around, and not sure if assigning blame is even correct
well in the NBA if you so much as throw a chair you can get fined, if you even start a fight you are most certainly banned from the season if not banned for even longer. I'm not going to point fingers at chinese regulation, but this was a show match so they either don't care or this kind of stuff happens frequently in china and isn't a big deal to them. They need to wise up though because you CAN'T risk a fight when injuries are possible and could potentially ruin someones entire career. What happened if one of the GT players was going to be drafted next season but gets injured and can't play? They could recover and try and get drafted again but his chances are greatly reduced.
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On August 19 2011 09:00 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Perhaps this will curb some of the Chinese racism I see that black people are violent brutes.
what on earth are you talking about
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On August 19 2011 08:50 SomeONEx wrote:Stupid Americans (Yes I know I will be banned for this)! First blow was given by an American. No matter what happen before this video (pics or it didn't happen) the Americans were responsible, not the Chinese. Having some sort of sport record (I've played something called floor ball for more the half of my 16year old life) and being the team captain, I know that is doesn't matter how much the other guys (Chinese here) triggers you, the guy giving the first blow should be punished (America). So OP, stop being a stupid patriotic American, the world have to many of those already. (Retard) This user has been banned bla bla ... )
When you say "Stupid Americans" and then "I know I will be banned for this!" It's like some sort of pathetic attempt to get attention through provocation and immature behavior, and then when you get banned for your childishness, scream "SEE! SEE! American's are against the world etc etc etc." You won't get banned because the mods on this forum are above your BULLSHIT, and won't play into your pathetic bait for attention.
P.S. Basketball is a physical sport. Contact happens in scrambles for loose balls. That doesn't give a team from another country the right to mob down on a guy who is running away. Grow the fuck up.
*EDIT* Corrected, he WAS banned lol. Guess I was wrong. Nice job mods! :D
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On August 19 2011 09:00 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Perhaps this will curb some of the Chinese racism I see that black people are violent brutes. *sigh* I haven't really seen that much Chinese racism. Just talking about the Chinese players. C'mon now. You are like the 3rd or 4th person to bring in racism against black people. Do yourself a favor and walk away.
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This gets me ready for college basketball to start up again. Pretty intense that this came to happen, would be a bit nerve wrecking to be a Hoya player there.
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On August 19 2011 09:03 Sipher wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 09:00 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Perhaps this will curb some of the Chinese racism I see that black people are violent brutes. *sigh* I haven't really seen that much Chinese racism. Just talking about the Chinese players. C'mon now. You are like the 3rd or 4th person to bring in racism against black people. Do yourself a favor and walk away. Sure. I've said what I wanted to.
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On August 19 2011 08:28 OneOther wrote: Not a good conclusion for Georgetown/U.S., but what an absolute disgrace for the Chinese team. The free throw disparity was ridiculous, I have never seen anything like that. Glad my Dukies got out of there without fighting, the referee bias in that game was ludicrous as well.
To be fair, Georgetown's game before this (also in China) went off without any issues.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 19 2011 08:38 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 08:30 R4TM wrote: Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did. Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 08:33 scribe123456 wrote:washington post seems to have the best article that I can find on the story. Bayi is a military team in the Chinese Basketball Association whose players serve in the Chinese army...
Some Chinese fans were incredulous. “It seemed that [the referee] was eager to the Chinese team win tonight, so the Georgetown team members were very unhappy about it,” said Zhou Ting, 26, a doctoral candidate in biology at the Chinese Academy of Science who attended both games. “I can tell the Chinese players provoked the conflict. . . .The [Bayi] basketball players have got a bad habit of revenge on every small, unfair thing in the Chinese Basketball Association. It’s a hooligan’s habit.”
but what really disappoints me is how the Chinese Webs are all censored on this story...Xinhua.com, 168.com, sina.com, nothing from them, just about VP Biden watching yesterdays game. I consider this even worse then the brawl itself. XD imma make a gif of the whole start just in that limited time frame, i see it as chinese player dives for loose ball, GTplayer picks it up tries to pass it, chinese player jumps up right into him(blatant fowl there right in front of a ref too) as he gets the ball out, GT player not happy with that takes a swipe at him can't tell if that is a punch slap or push, the 2 chinese players the one who was swiped at and the other one near him get in his face and push him looks like at his face with the one who wasn't swiped at starts to hit him at the back, the GT moves to get out of that and falls the rest is the brawl. edit herp lol the gif was cut off need to find another hosting site
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Great neutrality in your post OP.
And I'm sure the Washington Post is a great neutral source for this story.
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On August 19 2011 09:01 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 09:00 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Perhaps this will curb some of the Chinese racism I see that black people are violent brutes. what on earth are you talking about
There's extremely negative stereotypes against black people in China and in much of Asia that they are all very violent people. I know my mother, who grew up in Taiwan, when first coming to the U.S. (didn't have any family here, didn't really speak English), was under the impression that a majority of black people had violent tendencies and a large percentage of them were rapists. Ironically, she ended up having a temporary black roommate a year or so later and she said he was one of the sweetest guys she had met.
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I'm not sure if there were any big headbutts... we're making progress.
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That video with a better angle to fight was kind of terrifying. A few of the Georgetown players get isolated and there's chairs and a freaking metal post flying around with punches being thrown, while one of the coaches or trainers is restraining a Georgetown player in the foreground watching his teammates gets swarmed.
I'm pretty convinced there's a special level of hell for crooked basketball referees. Even if a Georgetown player threw the first punch (looked like a shove after a hard foul to me), there is nothing more frustrating than being pummeled in a basketball game while being called for non-fouls. The referee is directly controlling the game at that point, and not only that, but you are taking physical punishment that you are powerless to do anything about if you maintain your composure.
I had an intramural basketball game where it was a team of referees and the guys refereeing were crooked- I fouled out of an intramural sports game (I had never fouled out of a game in my life- in fact, I generally played too passively and rarely went over 2 fouls) and I was getting pummeled all game long culminating in one of them stepping on my feet while simultaneously tripping and pushing me into a hard fall at midcourt away from the ball, with a referee 6 feet away. It wasn't called a foul. I was pissed off for the next week, and thinking about it, I'm still pissed off. What gives them the right?
Then to have a bunch of fans and coaches join the melee... yeesh. Glad it didn't get any worse, but the referees are almost certainly at fault, and they're probably sitting smugly laughing that the "punks" got what they "deserved."
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