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HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-12 00:20:22
June 28 2007 02:55 GMT
#1
On June 28 2007 07:39 zdd wrote:
Because this program is completely independent from SC, you'll have to press Alt-Z whenever you want to restart the APM counter (such as when you enter a new game or w/e)
edit:fixed a few bugs (mouse clicks weren't being detected, polling rate)


this aplication runs out of starcraft so you can use it in btl.net it is just a little windows with your apm, you can use it for other games too.

thanks to zdd (he is the one that make it) i didnt see any topic about this so i make this one.

How to use: just put all the files in the same directory and run the executable, alt+z to restart the counter.

edit: Now there's a permanent host for this thanks to tec27 :D

http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rar
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 28 2007 04:12 GMT
#2
I'm going to try it.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 28 2007 04:18 GMT
#3
Wow, that's really awesome! Dosen't lag my SC up at all, and it's a cool feature. Thanks..
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44199 Posts
June 28 2007 04:27 GMT
#4
Sexy. Well programmed zdd.
I assume someone can vouch for him that it doesn't steal all my hax.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 28 2007 04:38 GMT
#5
thank you very much, im downloading it now,
hope it doesn't eat up too much RAM though
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-28 05:39:43
June 28 2007 04:50 GMT
#6
oh thanks guys, I just noticed that holding down a key for a long time made the APM go up like crazy so here's a new version that fixes that
http://download.yousendit.com/7EAADF0D240FB037
Edit: fixed another bug where the counter wasn't resetting to 0.
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
June 28 2007 05:02 GMT
#7
Thanks a lot!

How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
June 28 2007 05:05 GMT
#8
Nice
By.Flash fighting
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-28 05:25:27
June 28 2007 05:25 GMT
#9
On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!

How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?

Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
June 28 2007 05:36 GMT
#10
On June 28 2007 14:25 zdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!

How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?

Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though


Ok, thanks again, I was just wondering, I suck at these kind of things.
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
June 28 2007 07:01 GMT
#11
woooooot ^_^

thank you!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
June 28 2007 07:38 GMT
#12
On June 28 2007 14:25 zdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!

How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?

Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though

Thats basically how APMAlert works, except it uses a rolling window of the last 20 seconds worth of actions. Next version should be using a straight timer approach like yours though, due to game start/end detection.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
JouninX
Profile Joined June 2007
United States25 Posts
June 28 2007 07:45 GMT
#13
Great stuff you have here.
Go beyond.
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
June 28 2007 07:46 GMT
#14
Okay, it works fine but you need to change: when you click on the counter in the top left it boots you back to desktop every time. Really annoying. Otherwise, it seems to be working well =]
alien3456
Profile Joined June 2007
United States115 Posts
June 28 2007 07:48 GMT
#15
Very neat program. It's awesome how it works outside of Starcraft. I like seeing how much my apm is in other games or just doing normal things. It was around 190apm playing Quake 3 CPM. But 300 apm just typing this! I'm so pro.
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
June 28 2007 08:03 GMT
#16
On June 28 2007 16:46 SteelString wrote:
Okay, it works fine but you need to change: when you click on the counter in the top left it boots you back to desktop every time. Really annoying. Otherwise, it seems to be working well =]

Try this: http://download.yousendit.com/1BDE6A45488336D5 I've doubled the clickthrough delay, which should make that problem go away, and also added a "setup.ini" file which you can open with notepad or something and edit settings in (try increasing the clickthroughdelay if the problem persists).
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1938 Posts
June 28 2007 08:03 GMT
#17
it still minimizes for me
the REAL ReSpOnSe
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 28 2007 08:14 GMT
#18
I tried the one you just posted zdd, it counted 261 apm for me, when in bwchart I opened the rep and I had 221.

Don't know how the discrepancy happened, no pause in the game or anything like that, restarted it as the countdown hit 0.
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
June 28 2007 08:22 GMT
#19
On June 28 2007 17:14 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
I tried the one you just posted zdd, it counted 261 apm for me, when in bwchart I opened the rep and I had 221.

Don't know how the discrepancy happened, no pause in the game or anything like that, restarted it as the countdown hit 0.

I believe I can explain this real quick (as the same problem exists in APMAlert). This program calculates all keypresses/clicks into your APM, whereas BWChart only calculates *valid* SC actions. So if you were to left click somewhere on the screen and that click actually did absolutely nothing, BWChart wouldn't count it, but this program would. (How that accounts for an extra 40 APM eludes me, but it probably has something to do with replays not storing certain types of "useless" actions (like selecting mineral patches).)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-28 09:22:48
June 28 2007 08:26 GMT
#20
Yeah I agree with what tec27 said (also chat text will not be counted by bwchart, and that adds a significant number of keypresses into the mix) and I also think it also has to do with the program adding less time to the timer than actually elapses (for instance I have it set by default to add 50 milliseconds, but something like 55 milliseconds might pass by because of extra calculations), meaning you're dividing by a smaller number. An easy way to tweak the program is to open up the setup.ini and keep increasing the "plustimer" variable until you get comparable results.
On June 28 2007 17:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
it still minimizes for me

The thing that happens is that it detects some other window other than broodwar, maybe the APM window, which would mean it wasn't properly hidden due to something. What version of windows do you have? Also try setting "clickthroughdelay" to something absurd like 1000 and see if it still minimizes.
Also try this: http://download.yousendit.com/F183C92B6B407384
this version uses a slightly different approach to hiding the window, which might work for you.
All you need in life is a strong will to succeed and unrelenting determination. If you meet these prerequisites, you can become anything you want with absolutely no luck, fortune or natural ability.
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