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On June 28 2007 07:39 zdd wrote:
Because this program is completely independent from SC, you'll have to press Alt-Z whenever you want to restart the APM counter (such as when you enter a new game or w/e)
edit:fixed a few bugs (mouse clicks weren't being detected, polling rate)
this aplication runs out of starcraft so you can use it in btl.net it is just a little windows with your apm, you can use it for other games too.
thanks to zdd (he is the one that make it) i didnt see any topic about this so i make this one.
How to use: just put all the files in the same directory and run the executable, alt+z to restart the counter.
edit: Now there's a permanent host for this thanks to tec27 :D
http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rar
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Wow, that's really awesome! Dosen't lag my SC up at all, and it's a cool feature. Thanks..
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United States42609 Posts
Sexy. Well programmed zdd.
I assume someone can vouch for him that it doesn't steal all my hax.
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thank you very much, im downloading it now,
hope it doesn't eat up too much RAM though
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oh thanks guys, I just noticed that holding down a key for a long time made the APM go up like crazy so here's a new version that fixes that
http://download.yousendit.com/7EAADF0D240FB037
Edit: fixed another bug where the counter wasn't resetting to 0.
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Thanks a lot!
How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?
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On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!
How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works?
Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though
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On June 28 2007 14:25 zdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!
How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works? Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though
Ok, thanks again, I was just wondering, I suck at these kind of things.
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On June 28 2007 14:25 zdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2007 14:02 abandonallhope wrote:
Thanks a lot!
How does it count the APM? How does the counting work? The same way the APMAlert works? Actually I have it add 50 milliseconds to a variable called "timer" every 50 milliseconds, and then add 1 to a variable called "actions" every time a key or mouse is pressed and then divide actions by timer and round I've no idea how APM alert works though
Thats basically how APMAlert works, except it uses a rolling window of the last 20 seconds worth of actions. Next version should be using a straight timer approach like yours though, due to game start/end detection.
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Great stuff you have here.
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Okay, it works fine but you need to change: when you click on the counter in the top left it boots you back to desktop every time. Really annoying. Otherwise, it seems to be working well =]
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Very neat program. It's awesome how it works outside of Starcraft. I like seeing how much my apm is in other games or just doing normal things. It was around 190apm playing Quake 3 CPM. But 300 apm just typing this! I'm so pro.
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On June 28 2007 16:46 SteelString wrote:
Okay, it works fine but you need to change: when you click on the counter in the top left it boots you back to desktop every time. Really annoying. Otherwise, it seems to be working well =]
Try this: http://download.yousendit.com/1BDE6A45488336D5 I've doubled the clickthrough delay, which should make that problem go away, and also added a "setup.ini" file which you can open with notepad or something and edit settings in (try increasing the clickthroughdelay if the problem persists).
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it still minimizes for me
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I tried the one you just posted zdd, it counted 261 apm for me, when in bwchart I opened the rep and I had 221.
Don't know how the discrepancy happened, no pause in the game or anything like that, restarted it as the countdown hit 0.
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On June 28 2007 17:14 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
I tried the one you just posted zdd, it counted 261 apm for me, when in bwchart I opened the rep and I had 221.
Don't know how the discrepancy happened, no pause in the game or anything like that, restarted it as the countdown hit 0.
I believe I can explain this real quick (as the same problem exists in APMAlert). This program calculates all keypresses/clicks into your APM, whereas BWChart only calculates *valid* SC actions. So if you were to left click somewhere on the screen and that click actually did absolutely nothing, BWChart wouldn't count it, but this program would. (How that accounts for an extra 40 APM eludes me, but it probably has something to do with replays not storing certain types of "useless" actions (like selecting mineral patches).)
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Yeah I agree with what tec27 said (also chat text will not be counted by bwchart, and that adds a significant number of keypresses into the mix) and I also think it also has to do with the program adding less time to the timer than actually elapses (for instance I have it set by default to add 50 milliseconds, but something like 55 milliseconds might pass by because of extra calculations), meaning you're dividing by a smaller number. An easy way to tweak the program is to open up the setup.ini and keep increasing the "plustimer" variable until you get comparable results.
On June 28 2007 17:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
it still minimizes for me
The thing that happens is that it detects some other window other than broodwar, maybe the APM window, which would mean it wasn't properly hidden due to something. What version of windows do you have? Also try setting "clickthroughdelay" to something absurd like 1000 and see if it still minimizes.
Also try this: http://download.yousendit.com/F183C92B6B407384
this version uses a slightly different approach to hiding the window, which might work for you.
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you should try making it prettier now !:D
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Ah, didn't think of that thanks for clearing it up.
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On June 28 2007 17:26 zdd wrote:
I also think it also has to do with the program adding less time to the timer than actually elapses (for instance I have it set by default to add 50 milliseconds, but something like 55 milliseconds might pass by because of extra calculations), meaning you're dividing by a smaller number
Could you instead store the start-time and calculate elapsed time by taking NOW - start-time?
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It seems like autohotkey has no built-in functions to get system time, and also no reliable timing functions, so I think the only way to remotely accurately measure time is to add 1 to a variable every millisecond 
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Well, if I can't figure out this text-drawing function in SC (I have the offset, and sorta understand the parameters it needs, but I guess I'm still missing one as it still causes crashes) I'll just do a quick window drawing mechanism (similar to what you're doing I think [that comes without using the program]) and implement something like this there. That way, you won't have to worry too much about timer accuracy in AHK.
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How do you get it to re-zero? I've done a quick scan of the thread and couldn't find the answer.
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On June 28 2007 18:30 OrderlyChaos wrote:
How do you get it to re-zero? I've done a quick scan of the thread and couldn't find the answer.
Press Alt-Z, if it doesn't hit 0 initially try a couple more times
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zdd i have windows vista does that make a difference?
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also i changed it to 1000 like you said and it still minimized
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On June 28 2007 19:05 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
also i changed it to 1000 like you said and it still minimized
did you try the second link I sent? http://download.yousendit.com/F183C92B6B407384 Maybe Vista Handles window locations differently from XP.
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Dude, this is awesome, I can check my general usage APM too (outside of Starcraft)!
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On June 28 2007 20:35 teh leet newb wrote:
Dude, this is awesome, I can check my general usage APM too (outside of Starcraft)!
Dude that's exactly what I'm looking for! :D
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Dude this is so aweomse that you can check ur apm while not using bw! I have like blazing 300 apm when just typing it out hahaha ooooooooh it's getting hierh and higher and higher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOah LOOK IF I hold on just one key like If I hold on Z
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I'm better than NADA! effing 540!
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awesome program
er, how do you turn it off, lol...
edit: well, End Task works
And this is so awesome, I can measure my desktop apm! This is so exciting
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Numa's balls. That's amazing. Thanks a billion!
EDIT: Just tried it out more. I get the same issue, and it's actually kind a problem. I never realized how often I click in the upper left corner of the screen until just now.
If there's a way to fix it, i'd really appreciate it. I tried increasing that number like you said, but still didn't work. I appreciate the work, it's a great utility, and I hope for a solution to this problem. Also, I run XP.
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Carzy soft ,my apm is displayed 300+ by it ,but in fact ,my apm is 170
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Germany2896 Posts
An other part of the APM displayed which are to many are probably because of Hotkeys like A+Click which count as to Actions in these live tools, but only as one in BWChart.
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thnx for this program I will go try it right now
Gg good job for making the program
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On June 28 2007 22:44 Desolate.GreY wrote:
awesome program
er, how do you turn it off, lol...
edit: well, End Task works
And this is so awesome, I can measure my desktop apm! This is so exciting
You should just be able to right click the tray icon that it makes and pause/exit it.
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cool 200-220 apm @ starcraft
very nice
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On June 29 2007 04:48 MasterOfChaos wrote:
An other part of the APM displayed which are to many are probably because of Hotkeys like A+Click which count as to Actions in these live tools, but only as one in BWChart.
There, thats the last part of the mystery as to what causes it. Thanks Chaos, I hadn't thought of that
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New Version: http://download.yousendit.com/7C4A6E074B0F5F6A
Changes: Changed the hiding window mechanism, removed clickthroughdelay in favor of more click control, added exit shortcut, added shortcut booleans in setup.ini.
Basically now you can press Alt-E to exit the APM counter at any time, and I think I may have fixed that annoying starcraft minimizing thing and also both the Alt-Z and Alt-E shortcuts can be disabled via setup.ini
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ahhh thanks alot again zdd... before i had a problem with the cntrl plus Z thingy to reset the counter now working.... thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hey it works for me with that new version good job!
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excellent. new version doesn't minimize =)
now just make it pretty ^_^
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slight problem with this....it disables my shift key for some reason can you patch this?
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On June 29 2007 14:44 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
slight problem with this....it disables my shift key for some reason can you patch this?
oh crap that happened to me too... i just thought it was something wrong with my keyboard -_-;;
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haha it flickers like hell but oh well its something
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It disables my control key, which I use a lot for selecting the same type of units :-(.
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anyway to fix the disabling control keys and shift keys?
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Bleh the method that I used to get the clickthrough to work is kind of annoying in autohotkey, so I've managed to get it to work with just shift+click and ctrl+click fine, but it still blocks dragging the mouse :|
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did it fix disabling the shift keys?
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On June 29 2007 18:56 Vin{MBL} wrote:did it fix disabling the shift keys?
Yeah I think it should have fixed it, I reverted the mouseclick detection system to the old one that seemed to let everything through.
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oh, so is THAT what caused it.
for other people that had this problem: was it just when you ctrl selected a unit? or shift deselected? as opposed to binding keys with ctrl 1?
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Nice tool
zdd, I'm going to add your APM Live to the "StarCraft tools and utilities" thread but I'd like to know if there is some way the latest version could have a permanent link ? Yousendit is OK for temporary files but I think it's gonna be inaccessible after a while.
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It work fine thnx again for APM live
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Thanks it works really well :D
Dumbass me decided to spam my keyboard and mouse whilst on desktop and made it looks like this: desktop
anyone know how i can reverse what i did?
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uh..."71 hotkyes have been received in the last 1485ms. Do you want to continue? (see #MaxHotkeyPerInterval in the help file) what the heck? it keeps popping over and over
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On July 02 2007 04:56 no_re wrote:Thanks it works really well :D Dumbass me decided to spam my keyboard and mouse whilst on desktop and made it looks like this: desktopanyone know how i can reverse what i did?
haha interesting did you just try restarting your comp then chaing your desktop setting
Start>Control Panel> depending
>Performance and Maintenance>Adjust Visual Effects>Use Drop Shadows for icon labels on the desktop
or
>System>Advanced>Performance>Adjust Visual Effects>Use Drop Shadows for icon labels on the desktop
(you could just right click your My computer icon then do the Advanced>Performance>Adjust Visual Effects>Use Drop Shadows for icon labels on the desktop) should help
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hahaha awesome!!! i love it!!!!!!!!!
And ive just tried it in dekstop for 20 seconds. Man, i really need to get this into sc :O
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hey can you set it to show the time since it was activated ?
something like:
APM: 188 00:12:24
beign hh:mm:ss
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Updated to increase polling speed to maybe fix APMUSER's error, and added a timer functionality for wXs.Havok (just open up setup.ini and change "showtime=0" to "showtime=1")
http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rar
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thanks a lot for the timer
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Crap there were like 3 bugs in the timer code that I just fixed, so if anyone downloaded the latest before this post, you might wanna download the newer one, sorry
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Russian Federation8 Posts
Doesnt work.=(
Write:
"Error 118
Line Text: !z UP::
Error: Invalid HotKey
The program will exit"
And exit
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Hmm apparently autohotkey's "UP" flag only works in Windows NT/2000/XP, but if I check the regular key press instead of the end of the press, it will register the press a whole bunch of times if you hold the key down for a long time. Sorry I guess this program can only properly work in NT/2000/XP
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Russian Federation8 Posts
I understood trouble. My default language was not english.=)
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Oh I see, yeah that makes sense because I only have it check for english characters in the script
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nice one ^^ it helped me a lot and I was proven wrong that my APM was 75, my real APM was 88 ^^
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sweet used to think my apm was from 100-120 but ive been getting 135-160 on a laptop which is weird since i'm using a laptop touch pad w/o a usb mouse o.o wonder what my apm is at home (at camp)
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Germany2896 Posts
For accurate APM you need to use bwchart. There live tools count clicks/keypresses which are higher than the APM. I'm currently working on a bit more accurate way of measuring(filtering keypresses that cannot be an action), but that will some time due to exams.
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very nice work.
i have a feature request (i don't know much about programmig, so i don't know how complicated it could be to integrate):
it would be nice if the programm writes a file with the numbers of pressed keys and mouse-clicks, so that i can make some litte graph with openoffice calc or something similar (like excel). just like fraps can save the fps-rates to a file.
it would be nice if you add this feature in a future version. anyway, the programm is awesome. apm in every game =)
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Great program for sure, I have this annoying bug with it tho sometimes when I target a unit and then rightclick it seems to tab me out to windows!
Other than this I really like it, the minimalistic style it uses now is perfect for my taste, also if possible try to add something like "BWchart"-style APM calculations, atleast as an option.
Thanks!
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On July 07 2007 14:44 Sok4R wrote:
very nice work.
i have a feature request (i don't know much about programmig, so i don't know how complicated it could be to integrate):
it would be nice if the programm writes a file with the numbers of pressed keys and mouse-clicks, so that i can make some litte graph with openoffice calc or something similar (like excel). just like fraps can save the fps-rates to a file.
it would be nice if you add this feature in a future version. anyway, the programm is awesome. apm in every game =)
Added a logging feature for APM, just set "logapm=1" and "loginterval" in seconds in setup.ini, it should then create a file called "stats.txt" in the same folder as the script and then log the apm to that file. It will also make a separator every time you restart the counter using alt-z
http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rar
On July 08 2007 04:39 Sigge wrote:
Great program for sure, I have this annoying bug with it tho sometimes when I target a unit and then rightclick it seems to tab me out to windows!
Other than this I really like it, the minimalistic style it uses now is perfect for my taste, also if possible try to add something like "BWchart"-style APM calculations, atleast as an option.
Thanks!
Hmm open up the readme.txt and see what version it is in the changelog, it's possible you downloaded an old version that had that problem, but I think it should have been fixed in one of the new ones.
I could try the bwchart style thing, but it would only be half-accurate, (maybe like only count a+click as one action as opposed to 2), but some other stuff is impossible to do like unit selection, because the APM program doesn't communicate with starcraft so it can't know whether you just clicked on nothing (which doesn't count in bwchart) or clicked on a unit (which does count in bwchart)
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On July 08 2007 10:38 zdd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2007 14:44 Sok4R wrote:
very nice work.
i have a feature request (i don't know much about programmig, so i don't know how complicated it could be to integrate):
it would be nice if the programm writes a file with the numbers of pressed keys and mouse-clicks, so that i can make some litte graph with openoffice calc or something similar (like excel). just like fraps can save the fps-rates to a file.
it would be nice if you add this feature in a future version. anyway, the programm is awesome. apm in every game =) Added a logging feature for APM, just set "logapm=1" and "loginterval" in seconds in setup.ini, it should then create a file called "stats.txt" in the same folder as the script and then log the apm to that file. It will also make a separator every time you restart the counter using alt-z http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rar
o_O i missed the newest version. thanks a lot!
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What exactly does the counter show?
How many actions you've done in the last minute
or all the actions you've done since you started it divided by how long it has been on?
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On July 08 2007 12:17 EviLMonkey wrote:
What exactly does the counter show?
How many actions you've done in the last minute
or all the actions you've done since you started it divided by how long it has been on?
The second one, meaning it shows your average apm since you reset it. I could also make it show how many actions you've done in the last minute, but that would be just "actions" and not "apm"
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I just played a game to try it out and by the end it said I had 225 APM but BWchart said I had 155 T_T
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so whats a good number to keep it at to get a kind of accurate apm....if i change this number drastically what will happeN?
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On July 08 2007 16:03 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
so whats a good number to keep it at to get a kind of accurate apm....if i change this number drastically what will happeN?
I'm assuming you're talking about the "plustimer" number? That number is how much the program adds to the "time variable" every time it runs through the loop that calculates the apm, meaning that increasing that number would compensate for the minor lag that might come from doing extra calculations that could lead to an inaccurate apm.
If you increase it alot, it will think that alot more time passed than actually has (like it might think 5 seconds passed in the span of 3 seconds) and would artificially decrease your apm (because effectively you have the same number of actions in a longer period of time).
You can also use that variable to increase or decrease your apm count to try and match bwchart's (I guess you could calculate the average apm bwchart gives you in a game and divide that by the number the apm detector gives you and use that percent to increase the plustimer, like say you have 220 apm in apmdetector and 110 apm in bwchart on average, so you can technically multiply "plustimer" by 220/110 to try and approximate what the apm would be if you were only counting proper sc actions)
But the way I see it is that you should just figure out what "global" apm (every keystroke, mouseclick counts) you want to achieve, as opposed to "local" apm for sc (which only counts proper sc actions) to more effectively use this tool
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On July 08 2007 10:38 zdd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2007 14:44 Sok4R wrote:
very nice work.
i have a feature request (i don't know much about programmig, so i don't know how complicated it could be to integrate):
it would be nice if the programm writes a file with the numbers of pressed keys and mouse-clicks, so that i can make some litte graph with openoffice calc or something similar (like excel). just like fraps can save the fps-rates to a file.
it would be nice if you add this feature in a future version. anyway, the programm is awesome. apm in every game =) Added a logging feature for APM, just set "logapm=1" and "loginterval" in seconds in setup.ini, it should then create a file called "stats.txt" in the same folder as the script and then log the apm to that file. It will also make a separator every time you restart the counter using alt-z http://rockify.net/zdd/APMDetector.rarShow nested quote +On July 08 2007 04:39 Sigge wrote:
Great program for sure, I have this annoying bug with it tho sometimes when I target a unit and then rightclick it seems to tab me out to windows!
Other than this I really like it, the minimalistic style it uses now is perfect for my taste, also if possible try to add something like "BWchart"-style APM calculations, atleast as an option.
Thanks! Hmm open up the readme.txt and see what version it is in the changelog, it's possible you downloaded an old version that had that problem, but I think it should have been fixed in one of the new ones. I could try the bwchart style thing, but it would only be half-accurate, (maybe like only count a+click as one action as opposed to 2), but some other stuff is impossible to do like unit selection, because the APM program doesn't communicate with starcraft so it can't know whether you just clicked on nothing (which doesn't count in bwchart) or clicked on a unit (which does count in bwchart)
I will try it as soon as I get home from the office, thanks for the quick answer.
Also, I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to add a StarCraft mode to it, by just not counting some actions when activated.
Doesn't have to be exactly like BW chart, but just something that is a bit more accurate!
Thanks again.
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What is the newest version right now? I didnt follow the thread
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New Version:
Version 10 -
*Added an optional feature to approximate bwchart apm (see setup.ini)
*Also added shortcut to toggle bwchart approximation while running the program (Alt-A).
*You can also now customize the colors of the apm detector in setup.ini.
Note about using the approximation feature: it uses the Enter key as a boolean value to determine whether you are chatting during the game or playing the game, so if all of the sudden it messes up, you can fix it by exiting out of chat and pressing Alt-Z to reset the apm counter.
Here are some major differences between the approximation for bwchart and the actual:
All clicks are counted, not just selection and commands.
Ambiguous keys: For example, the program doesn't know whether you are pressing m to build a marine/mutalisk or m to move, so it will count all m's as an action.
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Germany1302 Posts
again, thanks for the great work!
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i just tried using this again and it still once in awhile randomly sends me to my desktop again like it did b4 but much less often....is there ANYTHING you can do to make this stop happening totally?
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You're amazing...
Thanks!
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anything you can do to help me with this problem? i used to love apmlive feature on bwlauncher cant you just do the same thing they did with their's?
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On July 10 2007 07:22 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
anything you can do to help me with this problem? i used to love apmlive feature on bwlauncher cant you just do the same thing they did with their's?
I can try and fix it if you tell me exactly what you have to do to get it to minimize, like so I can investigate as to what actually causes it. The way they did it with bwlauncher is by injecting a dll into starcraft, which made it dependent on what patch you were using to find the correct place to inject the dll. This is meant to be an independent project that is meant work with any version of broodwar or any other game. I'm thinking of introducing some optional pixel detection to maybe maximize the bwchart-compatibility of the apm counter (like if it sees the pixels for marine, firebat, and medic, and you press m, it will count the action as "marine built") but it's very difficult to make something like that work perfectly without talking to starcraft directly, which is what the other apmlive was capable of doing.
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okay sure, its when i was scrolling left and up like towards where the apm bar is....it seems like i click to fast before it disappears so it minimizes sc
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On July 10 2007 07:53 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
okay sure, its when i was scrolling left and up like towards where the apm bar is....it seems like i click to fast before it disappears so it minimizes sc
Ok I updated the program, see if it still minimizes. Basically now the screen updates are in a much higher priority thread, which might mean that they will update faster than the mouseclick.
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Thanks zdd...works great!
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Germany2896 Posts
Don't create a window, but print directly on the starcraft device context. It will o/c flicker, but thats probably not different when creating a window. Flickering could be prevented by hooking starcraftcode, but thats dangerous, as warden might consider it a hack.
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ya do what MasterOfChaos said!;-)
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Very nice!
Only thing is it gives me like 2.5X the apm that BWchart does. Which is ok, I can still compare it to a goal that I have.
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it only gives me like +20 or 10 actions that BWchart
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edit: whoops wrong thread
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Hey Guys,
I have been searching for an APM live tool for a while now and this one here seems awesome! The only problem is that it doesn't work at all for me. Basically, I start up the APM tool and it works great on the desktop, but then when I start up BW it does not recieve any of the clicks or keystrokes that I make, so basically my APM slowly trickles down to 0. So for some reason the program is not overlaying itsself with starcraft. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there any way to fix it? I am running windows vista right now.
Thanks guys, and a great program, I am always amazed at what ppl can do.
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Nice looking program, i'll give it a shot.
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Does it self update? Or do we check up with you
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Its not meant to run with only starcraft. It's meant to run in windows to monitor APM without needing to update after each patch of ANY game or whatever you do. However I find that after testing it out a few times there seems to be a big difference between the APM shown in this program and BWChart.
I tried hitting the ALT+A command and have enabled
approximatebwchartapm=1
bwchartappxshortcut=1
However after 3 games vs comp just to test it, it seems that there is no difference either way. The program shows considerably higher APM compared with BWChart on the replay.
Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong?
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Hmm after doing some looking around, it seems that BWChart doesn't count the first 2 minutes of spam/actions which is probably why there's a difference in my APM. I'll just try starting it a minute or two later then.
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It says my APM is around 290 when its only 180ish. It's still a nice program though keep up the solid work!
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Remember to restart it after the game starts.
Also, I too believe this shows too high apm. An example: in bwchart or a similar program, a rallypoint will count as 1 apm (I think), and attack move aswell (just 2 examples), but with the live detecter, setting a rallypoint with "r" will count as 2 apm (1 for clicking "r", one for clicking on the ground), and the same with attack-move. I also thought I had to high apm when I was just messing around and quite easily got over 250 apm in a fun game.
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This is really awesome ty
P.S the reason everyones apms are spiking with it is because it monitors ALL actions, even for the first 2 minutes, which I believe BWchart leaves out.
My APM has one from 300 to about 400 on it.
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Is anyone else getting a message that the file was expired?
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Obviously it shows too high an APM, zdd himself knows this. Its unavoidable unless the program works directly with Starcraft. The reason is BW chart only counts real actions as actions (training, moving, selecting an actual unit, attack moving) as actions. This program counts every key press and every mouse click as an action. So if you click on some random area of the map, this will record it and your APM will go up, but on BWchart, it will just ignore it. Also it counts attack move as two actions, it will count spell casts as 2 actions (select spell, select target), etc.
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On January 31 2008 05:46 SikLyric wrote:
Is anyone else getting a message that the file was expired?
Maybe because the first post is a year old.
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Germany2896 Posts
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One thing i've noticed is this program counts keystrokes and mouseclicks, where as programs like the APM plugin for ADLoader (and I imagine bwchart) counts commands.
There is a slight difference here
Ingame if you press "r" "click" "r" "click" repeatedly you set the rally for a building, but if you press R before the click finishes, the GAME does not recognize that you pressed R, and the "set rally" option doesn't appear, however a program like this APM reader that just counts strokes WILL recognize those actions
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Germany2896 Posts
Yes, and thats a limitation of the way way this program was created.
The advantages are:
1. It is independent from patches (or even from Starcraft)
2. It is compatible with Antihacks like on ICCup
The disadvantages are:
1. It flickers
2. It is inaccurate.
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Are y sure it's 100 % compatible with iccup ah?
Because i heard "hackers" must be spotted 2 or 3 games before being really banned and i don't want this happens to me rite?
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Germany2896 Posts
I think it currently works, but it is forbidden and may be detected by a future launcher. So there is a risk.
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On February 06 2008 01:38 MasterOfChaos wrote:
I think it currently works, but it is forbidden and may be detected by a future launcher. So there is a risk.
BTW the new file appears to have a trojan, can someone clean and repost plz, my antivirus just deletes the whole thing.
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Germany2896 Posts
I guess it is a false positive. If you don't trus it, download AutoHotkey and compile apmdetector.ahk yourself.
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yea, my AVG calls it a trojan
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I can not open APM live because of this error "windows can not access the specified device ,path or file ..." ,may be it's from my AVG antivirus .Do you know how to fix this error ? Please help me .Thanks.
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I think this tools are quite shit! You have to push your brain APM and not your APM by mouse spamming
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nice theres a trojan in this file. dont dl it
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On July 06 2008 05:36 DaZzLe wrote:
nice theres a trojan in this file. dont dl it
Thats a false positive, almost guaranteed. This was also a pretty crappy reason to bump the thread.
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On July 06 2008 05:36 DaZzLe wrote:
nice theres a trojan in this file. dont dl it
Unless the file was recently changed, I really doubt it. Live APM has been around for a while and someone's bound to have noticed long ago if there was really a trojan.
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Germany2896 Posts
Some stupid scanners think every autohotkey program is malware. I think the current false positive to correct positive rate is something like 10:0 for my scanner. (It likes telling me my own programs are malware, Tec27 APMAlert too, several old DOS programs,... and no single real virus found). Quite unreliable i'd say 
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Do any of these work on macs? Is there an APM counter for mac?
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Way to necro this...
Doesn't chaos work on a mac or do you just need the dual operating system?
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On April 30 2009 10:48 ReMiiX wrote:
Do any of these work on macs? Is there an APM counter for mac?
Yeah, its called a PC.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
can some one makes a map to practice APM
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 28 2009 12:51 LuisMl8 wrote:
can some one makes a map to practice APM
play against a computer.
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United States4126 Posts
Wow, people really need to learn how to search the forum...
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eh guys this detector shows me 250 apm instead of my 170 in bwchart. How u handle that § (approx "1")
May keep on 300 to drop 200. (x
Need speed detection on iccup!
Anybody gain experience with pulstimer §
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On July 17 2009 01:54 motbob wrote:
STOP BUMPING THREADS
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I use the browser teamliquid but if I can not find answers in any of the post, which is worse? create a new post or bump into a old one??
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On July 17 2009 02:17 LuisMl8 wrote:. I use the browser teamliquid but if I can not find answers in any of the post, which is worse? create a new post or bump into a old one??
no offense but that question was pointless...
map to practice apm wtf????
Also can a mod edit the title, cause its NOT new for sure.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On July 17 2009 02:17 LuisMl8 wrote:. I use the browser teamliquid but if I can not find answers in any of the post, which is worse? create a new post or bump into a old one??
Make a blog
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