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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-27 08:10:24
June 26 2007 05:53 GMT
#1
Ok so yesterday I went to Fry's and bought the 900 series antec case for 149 and an Apevia 680w PSU for 119. Then I look here on newegg and see these prices.


Case
PSU



I'm definitely taking back the case. And buying this one. (cheaper, MIR, and FREE shipping!). The PSU is the exact same price but is this one better PSU
?
Does newegg offer any kinds of deals when you buy more than 1 thing at once?

Is there any tips you guys have about newegg in general?
Do the MIR's (mail in rebates) work all the time? Me and a few friends have gone 100% with MIR's but my other friend said when he worked for staples they bought a bunch of shit from newegg and hired people to do the MIR's and only like 20% of the rebates came back.

Only thing I ever bought from them was headphones. Which are gosu for 20$ and they shipped real fast.

PS- does anyone know where to get a 19" ++ CRT monitor?

Or a flat screen that is not LCD ?


PSS- I have about 688$ in my bank right now and I'll have another $293 if I return both parts to Fry's. I'm building from the ground up except Harddrives,multicard reader,cd/dvd drives. And soundcard can just be the stock mobo one.

I'm going for top 2nd notch GFX card and top or 2nd notch CPU. everything else just par or above par.

edit-
So far I ordered:

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V / EPS12V 600W 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, FCC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025

SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102067

OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Gold Layered XTC Heatspreader
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227124

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029



GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 26 2007 06:36 GMT
#2
what the bump?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 26 2007 06:55 GMT
#3
Make sure the computer altogether doesn't top about $700 or so. Any more is really not worth the money. My friend just made a computer for his brother with $500 and it totally wtfpwns his $2K comp :O
^-^
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 07:03:20
June 26 2007 06:57 GMT
#4
On June 26 2007 15:55 Equinox_kr wrote:
Make sure the computer altogether doesn't top about $700 or so. Any more is really not worth the money. My friend just made a computer for his brother with $500 and it totally wtfpwns his $2K comp :O


I was assuming with every part cost around 100 bucks its gonna be at around $1k. how the hell did you make a good comp with 500$? whats in it?

I'm going to scrap some parts from old comps so even with those I still have to get: Case, PSU, CPU, RAM, Mobo, GFX card.

that alone will be like 700++ conservatively.

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
June 26 2007 06:59 GMT
#5
If you plan on spending over 1k, just buy a factory made PC and beef it up with a nice video card and some new memory, it'll run any game you want it too, and its a lot easier.
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 07:02:26
June 26 2007 07:01 GMT
#6
I plan on spending around 700$~$800, $1k is my limit.

Why the hell would I wanna buy some company bundled cheap part computer for the same price?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
June 26 2007 07:11 GMT
#7
dont listen to this guys, wait for responses from leet the newb, newbsaibot, or ETT, those guys know for sure what they are talking about.
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 07:14:35
June 26 2007 07:14 GMT
#8
On June 26 2007 16:11 mAKiTO wrote:
dont listen to these guys, wait for responses from leet the newb, newbsaibot, or ETT, those guys know for sure what they are talking about.


Yea, I know. I guess nobody is online right now.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
bp1696
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 07:23:06
June 26 2007 07:20 GMT
#9
I recommend tomshardware.com. They routinely make really nice pc's, and have some special guides for like under $500 powerhouses.

Edit: Here's a link to a $500 gaming rig guide, but it's old:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/
Sleep is for the fishes
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
June 26 2007 07:24 GMT
#10
Even though I've built many good computers myself at pretty good prices, and am also currently working on a crazy gaming computer for my friend, my advice probably won't stand up to those of PPLZ IN TEH INTARWEBB...

But my my, my friend's $1k computer is looking mighty fine.

Though I still think my 4 year old 10x modified comp can still stand a fighting chance against his new machine.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 07:48:42
June 26 2007 07:46 GMT
#11
On June 26 2007 16:20 bp1696 wrote:
I recommend tomshardware.com. They routinely make really nice pc's, and have some special guides for like under $500 powerhouses.

Edit: Here's a link to a $500 gaming rig guide, but it's old:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/


the old computer i have is better than that thing and I got it in 2004 for around 500.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
sc0rchedst0rm
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Ireland176 Posts
June 26 2007 08:00 GMT
#12
Personally I only ever go with Seasonic PSUs as every other one I've had has failed on me, but I did some reading and Apevia does sound good.

I don't know anything about Newegg as they don't ship to Ireland.

As for GPU, the best "bang-for-your-buck" is the Geforce 8800GTS 320MB at the moment. XFX or EVGA probably have the best warranties, and support. If thats too high priced (which in your budget it may be, at $319.99), I'd skip down to a higher end 7xxx series as opposed to the 8600.

CPU wise I'd recommend Intel E6420 as it has the 4mb L2 Cache, and 2.13GHz clockspeed for barely more than the ordinary E6400. Personally its the best processor around currently, in terms of value for money atleast!

Motherboard... well you could save money by not going for some kind of nForce situation if you're not interested in SLi, but most good motherboards these days have it anyway. Just make sure you get one with a FSB that will allow 1:1 ratio with your RAM. The sky is the limit with motherboards really, you don't want a "bad" one, but quality wise most of them are pretty damn good (unless they're like $20, then be wary)

Personally Corsair RAM is the best bet, but OCZ makes some good stuff too. XMS2 isn't too much at the moment, maybe to balance performance with price go for PC2-6400 as opposed to something much faster.

And I know you wanted a CRT or a non-LCD flatpanel, but seriously, take a look at the Samsung 940BF, it has never failed me!

Hope I've been of some assistance, and please, feel free to tell me my advice sucks! (although I won't agree with you)
Kill a man, you're a murderer. Kill 100 men, you're a hero. Kill 1000 men, LVL UP!!!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 08:50:37
June 26 2007 08:26 GMT
#13
On June 26 2007 17:00 sc0rchedst0rm wrote:
Personally I only ever go with Seasonic PSUs as every other one I've had has failed on me, but I did some reading and Apevia does sound good.

I don't know anything about Newegg as they don't ship to Ireland.

As for GPU, the best "bang-for-your-buck" is the Geforce 8800GTS 320MB at the moment. XFX or EVGA probably have the best warranties, and support. If thats too high priced (which in your budget it may be, at $319.99), I'd skip down to a higher end 7xxx series as opposed to the 8600.

CPU wise I'd recommend Intel E6420 as it has the 4mb L2 Cache, and 2.13GHz clockspeed for barely more than the ordinary E6400. Personally its the best processor around currently, in terms of value for money atleast!

Motherboard... well you could save money by not going for some kind of nForce situation if you're not interested in SLi, but most good motherboards these days have it anyway. Just make sure you get one with a FSB that will allow 1:1 ratio with your RAM. The sky is the limit with motherboards really, you don't want a "bad" one, but quality wise most of them are pretty damn good (unless they're like $20, then be wary)

Personally Corsair RAM is the best bet, but OCZ makes some good stuff too. XMS2 isn't too much at the moment, maybe to balance performance with price go for PC2-6400 as opposed to something much faster.

And I know you wanted a CRT or a non-LCD flatpanel, but seriously, take a look at the Samsung 940BF, it has never failed me!

Hope I've been of some assistance, and please, feel free to tell me my advice sucks! (although I won't agree with you)


Thanks for advices, damn that cpu is 186$ on newegg sounds like a lot more than I was expecting (like $150 tops).

I think I was looking to spend around $150 tops on vid card too.
whats the best card out of the 7xxx series?

This card sounds perfect BFG 7950GT 256mb but a little over my price range even with the MIR.

As for Mobos I heard that SLI can't do certain things. What are the different types of Mobos and whats the Pros/Cons of them? How much does a good mobo for the setup you required cost?

I was planning on getting 2x1g ram or 1 x2g (if i need more later).

If that monitor is LCD im not even gonna look into.

Oh yea, and also Whats the deal with video cards. Like whats the difference between the chipsets PNY,BFG,Leadtek,EVGA,XFX,ASUS,ATI, etc etc.


PS-
7300GT 256mb this card sounds like a pretty good deal. What you think?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 26 2007 08:34 GMT
#14
if you can wait about a month, intel's making big price cuts on most of their core 2 duos and core 2 quads (except for the extremes, i think).

8800GTS is a great value for its price, but ATI's new 2900 XT is starting to show some promise with its new drivers.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 26 2007 08:36 GMT
#15
On June 26 2007 17:34 TheMusiC wrote:
if you can wait about a month, intel's making big price cuts on most of their core 2 duos and core 2 quads (except for the extremes, i think).

8800GTS is a great value for its price, but ATI's new 2900 XT is starting to show some promise with its new drivers.


yea I heard something about that too. You got a source on that? How much are Quad Cores going for ?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 08:43:20
June 26 2007 08:40 GMT
#16
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7813
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7293

[edit]
sorry, i was looking for this chart:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-05-15/Inte.jpg
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 08:47:31
June 26 2007 08:46 GMT
#17
man how is it that my amd athlon 2800+ is just barely worse than these CPUs when its like 4 years old? What ever happened to that 18month tech doubling rule?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 13:51:25
June 26 2007 08:49 GMT
#18
You should not get a 2900xt; considering the drivers.

You play sc right?? well the 2900xt does not support the 640x480.(It's sad but new drivers come out every month you never know)

What I see is that a case the psu and your mobo is very important most mobo has a 4 pin or 6 pin power supply near the top.

Your psu has to reach from the bottom to the top of the motherboard. Its why I dont like that case you chose.

All I have to say if you go with that case be carefull about the psu and motherboad you have I had to get rid of my antec for a Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 because of the 4 pin power supply wouldn't reach all the way to the top.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 26 2007 08:52 GMT
#19
On June 26 2007 17:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
man how is it that my amd athlon 2800+ is just barely worse than these CPUs when its like 4 years old? What ever happened to that 18month tech doubling rule?


lol

if you're looking only at clockspeeds, you're horribly wrong

the top half of the C2D line completely destroys pretty much most of what AMD has to offer.

AMD's new line of processors isn't showing that much promise either, but their initial benchmarks weren't done at full clockspeeds.

and intel is supposed to release a new line of 45nm quad-core processors at the end of this year, topping 3.33 ghz with insane performance, but you probably won't want to wait that long.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 08:56:32
June 26 2007 08:54 GMT
#20
yea, ok. but what I'm suggesting is 680w PSU overkill?

What cards are cheap that support DX10 ? Sc2 might require Dx10, They aren't sure yet. I don't wanna have to buy a new card when it comes out.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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