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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-07 08:15:30
June 07 2007 06:16 GMT
#1
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It's the second-to-last week of the OSL group stage, and I don't have anything clever to say in my introduction. So let's get straight to the games!



OSL Ro16 Week 5
June 8
18:30 Korean


Group A

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Light[Alive] (T) vs. Savior (Z)
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@ Monty Hall

This match has no impact upon who advances and who doesn't, but don't be fooled into thinking that either player is going to be complacent. Light is desperately trying to save face after getting trounced by both oov and Flash, and Savior is still struggling to regain his reputation as the strongest player in the world. Monty Hall offers players a lot of flexibility in terms of their builds; I wouldn't be surprised to see a very long game or a very short one, but what would surprise me—a lot—is if Light emerged the winner.


Group B

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Bisu (P) vs. Hwasin (T)
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@ Python

Bisu and Hwasin have already secured their spots in the Ro8, which means that this match should be largely inconsequential, but I'm not sure that's going to be the case; the first and second place finishers in each group (B1 and B2, in this case) are assigned different slots in the Ro8 tournament bracket. So if, for example, Bisu felt that the B1 side of the bracket offered him a better chance to advance in the tournament, he would practice long and hard for this game. Conversely, if he preferred the B2 side, he might, well, you know... forget to practice.

But I don’t think the latter is going to happen. Most professional gamers have too much integrity to do such a thing, but more than that, there’s bad blood between these two. Bisu called Hwasin his insurance policy when he picked him at the group selection ceremony, saying, “Just in case I lose to NaDa, I chose Hwasin as insurance” (LosingID8, source). Hwasin then responded with what is probably the lamest comeback ever, “He thinks of me as insurance, but will I really be that? Or will I be poison to him?” (LosingID8, source). I mean, there’s no connection at all between insurance and poison! The proper comeback would have been, “If you’re going to think of me as insurance, you’d better take out a supplemental policy—on your life.” Like most sitcoms, Hwasin needs better writers.

Anyway, I could see Hwasin pulling off the upset victory on a map like Monty Hall, but on a standard, balanced map like Python, I’m confident that Bisu take home the win.


Group C

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Justin (T) vs. Iris (T)
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@ Hitchhiker

Justin doesn’t belong in the OSL, and Iris is going to win this game. I’d love to say something more non-partisan or insightful about this match, but I don’t think there’s anything else to be said.


Group D

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Up (T) vs. GGPlay (Z)
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@ Fantasy

Group D is turning into a true scrap, with GGPlay, Stork, and Up throwing haymakers while Casy frantically slaps their backs and calls them all “big bullies.” GGPlay needs this win to avoid a tiebreaker at 2-1, and Up needs this win to force a tiebreaker at 2-1. I’m assuming—and it’s a pretty safe assumption—that Stork will beat Casy next week.

Both players are going to come completely and totally prepared for this game. But the real question is whether or not Up will put his faith in his play or in a strategy. Fantasy presents its players with some unique decisions based upon position, but there is one constant: the distance between bases is very long. It’s virtually guaranteed that GGPlay will hatch at his natural expansion, which leaves him vulnerable to some sort of proxy barracks build; chances are that a scouting drone wouldn't spot Up’s trickery until it was too late. Then there’s the Legacy of Char-inspired position, which is aerially close to both the Gaema Gowon and Nostalgia positions. Knowing that he can “cheat” on marines—due to both the ramp and the long distance in-between bases—in order to tech more quickly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Up employ wraiths, especially if either he or GGPlay spawns at the LoC position.

When it comes down to it, though, GGPlay is just better at the matchup. Up is a career 7-9 TvZ in televised games, and all of his wins, aside from his undressing of Yellow[Arnc] on Longinus 2, came against second-rate Zerg players, players like Clon (twice), Luxury[GsP], Ever)Z(Aqua (twice), and SaSin)bOy. GGPlay, on the other hand, is 7-2 ZvT since April. He’s my pick to win this game, but when Up’s playing, anything can happen.
Dark_Luster
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)438 Posts
June 07 2007 06:26 GMT
#2
interesting matchup, Savior and Bisu should win.
#1 Horangee fan
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
June 07 2007 06:46 GMT
#3
Awesome write up - the bits on Hwasin and bisu are hilarious, and I for one would be very excited if progamers would hire you as their writer.

ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 07 2007 06:58 GMT
#4
Haha, Hwasin needs some help on his one liners from you DJ.

Awesome read as always. I love how you included stories from the selection ceremony. You're inspiring me to go back and read the threads on them.

Excellent preview DJ.
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
June 07 2007 06:59 GMT
#5
Hwasin then pulled out a combat knife and threw it into Bisu's chest, and gave his retort: "Wheres your insurance policy now, knifey?"
Moonlight Shadow
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 07 2007 07:07 GMT
#6
I always enjoy reading these.
I have a question though. Is Legacy of Char and Genosky the same thing?
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
June 07 2007 07:37 GMT
#7
These should be really good games, except for Iris-Bifrost, unless Bifrost wins then it's an even worse game. -.-
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
June 07 2007 07:38 GMT
#8
Nice one, funny introduction.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
June 07 2007 07:50 GMT
#9
I dunno if Hwasin-Bisu is so easy to call as you think. Hwasin has, as you noted recently, managed to actually beat several Protosses, and Bisu's never really demonstrated jawdropping PvT. I think Hwasin's still going to lose, but he definitely has a solid chance.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 07 2007 08:10 GMT
#10
"Like most sitcoms, Hwasin needs better writers."

Hahaha, gold... =)
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
June 07 2007 08:11 GMT
#11
Nice intros, but Lux isn't really 2nd rate is he?

Hwasin fighting, hope Bisu gets stomped -.-
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20663 Posts
June 07 2007 08:25 GMT
#12
I hope Justin wins. Then Reach auto-advances, yes?
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
June 07 2007 08:37 GMT
#13
Justin = new MuMyung??
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
June 07 2007 09:25 GMT
#14
On June 07 2007 17:37 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Justin = new MuMyung??


Why are you insulting MuMyung? Speak about MannerRush(2/35 w/l) instead
I'll call Nada.
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
June 07 2007 09:38 GMT
#15
iris better crush justin -_-;
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
June 07 2007 10:00 GMT
#16
haha hwasin is such a geek
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
June 07 2007 10:39 GMT
#17
loool awesome preview Etter
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RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 07 2007 11:56 GMT
#18
On June 07 2007 15:26 Dark_Luster wrote:
interesting matchup, Savior and Bisu should win.


you really think so? on what basis? don't you think it's a bit too early to judge?
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 07 2007 13:43 GMT
#19
nah savior is auto win ez
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
June 07 2007 15:23 GMT
#20
hilariously funny. some best lines since mensrea
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
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