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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 03 2016 00:20 GMT
#25
/in
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 05 2016 02:06 GMT
#47
Too quick for me, eh?

That's a good one, right there.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 07:16 GMT
#134
I want to lynch Vivax.

Unsurprisingly.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 07:25 GMT
#137
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.

Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.

Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 07:29 GMT
#139
On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.

otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard.

Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this.

I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 07:46 GMT
#142
On March 08 2016 16:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.

otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard.

Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this.

I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny.


for estimated 6 months jat has been bugging me about me intentionally making my D1 shittastic, not my fault if you dont follow whats happening on the forum and in qts

So I'm just supposed to take that at face value?

No thank you. No one gets metagame passes just because they want to be lazy as mafia.

On March 08 2016 16:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Not giving Shape a pass for being a noob. Besides, people never understand how I read Slam or most anyone. But I'm always right. I would've figured you would've learned by now.


You clearly did give him a pass, but that's not really relevant, I don't actually think he's mafia. But Vivax apparently does, what do you think about that?

The false bravado in the accuracy of your reads does nothing to make you more trustworthy in my eyes. "No one understands my reads!" is the mafia equivalent of a teenager yelling at their parents because they don't have the latest iPhone.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 08:03 GMT
#144
I don't necessarily disagree with your plan but it doesn't exactly inspire faith either.

I do need convincing on Slam, though. I don't think he's trolling either, his posting seems lazy, but does that mean he's mafia?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:23 GMT
#236
On March 09 2016 02:07 Koshi wrote:
Sadly I already made something and I don't want to delete it because it is pure brilliance. And because I was a bit mean to Rels last game and his VE read when I entered the thread. Therefore I will correct his yamato read and explain it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.

Unsurprisingly.

On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.

Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.

Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.

.
1) The geript read + how he involves alakaslam,shape and Vivax. It just doesn't do it for me. Why is geript mafia for wanting to lynch alakslam? Why is geript mafia for thinking shape is newb town? Why is geript mafia for saying Vivax is a dick? geript explained his Shape read pretty clearly. I don't understand where yamato his confusion comes from. I also don't understand why yamato adds his own opinion of Shape in his geript segment, but fails to explain why it makes geript mafia. The entire paragraph just doesn't make sense from town perspective who is figuring out geript. Because Yamato isn't figuring out geript at all, he is correcting/doubting things geript said and then implies geript is wrong and therefore mafia. Or at least that is how this entire segment feels like. Because he doesn't really conclude anything on geript in the end. It's an open ending that we can fill in.

2) I don't see the connection between his opening post about lynching Vivax and the follow up in the geript segment. It could be that yamato his opening post is stating/complaining about the fact Vivax is offtopic as fuck. He confronts Vivax about that later again but without trying to solve the game or do anything. It's so meek. What is this read? + Show Spoiler +
Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.


3) I get the feeling that the Kush read and the Tumble read are "correct" reads mafia gives. Simple structured reads based on TMI but throwaway. Mafia yamato knows these 2 are town and then finds a reason to call them town. It is the same for the Shape read within the geript read btw. These reads feel like coming from mafia. Or really good town being in the zone but then I wonder what the fuck the geript/vivax vomitting was all about.




I think town yamato would have approached this entirely different, a town yamato would be able to express and structure himself a lot clearer in his first read post. Figure out players individually and not inappropriate mix in geript in every read. Yamato his reads just don't seem to be coming from a townie trying to solve the game. I feel it is a mafia giving reads through discrediting somebody else his reads. I can't explain it. Just doesn't look town.

##vote Yamato

some tinfoil:
I was wondering why yamato is so focussed on geript. It doesn't feel natural yamato starts his read post by reading geript giving reads on 3 other people. Discrediting geript? Scumbuddies? Tilting geript? I don't know. Might have something to do with Slam but maybe completely not.

I clearly said geript wasn't mafia for what I was pointing out you imbecile.

You wrote more about my reads than I did. You're reaching. This post is horrid.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:24 GMT
#238
On March 09 2016 02:11 Koshi wrote:
I just need yamato or somebody else to tell me why yamato feels the need to explain a Vivax, Shape and slam read through geript who he doesn't even scumread.

So I can interact with geript about his reads.

See how I got him to comment more on all of them?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:27 GMT
#239
On March 09 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:
On March 09 2016 02:20 Koshiusis wrote:
Anyway mafia is within this:

yamato77
Vobby
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really.

Other than Yamato and Slam (understand where you got these) and Geript(because it seems like you are not sure). May I ask why you place Rels and Vobby here?

rels looks town but I want to be cautious.

Vivax hasn't done anything townie, he could easily be mafia. And he could be very easily be mafia with yamato.
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On March 08 2016 16:46 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:36 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.

otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard.

Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this.

I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny.


for estimated 6 months jat has been bugging me about me intentionally making my D1 shittastic, not my fault if you dont follow whats happening on the forum and in qts

So I'm just supposed to take that at face value?

No thank you. No one gets metagame passes just because they want to be lazy as mafia.

On March 08 2016 16:36 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Not giving Shape a pass for being a noob. Besides, people never understand how I read Slam or most anyone. But I'm always right. I would've figured you would've learned by now.


You clearly did give him a pass, but that's not really relevant, I don't actually think he's mafia. But Vivax apparently does, what do you think about that?


The false bravado in the accuracy of your reads does nothing to make you more trustworthy in my eyes. "No one understands my reads!" is the mafia equivalent of a teenager yelling at their parents because they don't have the latest iPhone.

The bolded is only explainable if yamato is figuring out geript by asking him about his scumbuddy Vivax.
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On March 08 2016 16:29 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 16:27 Vivax wrote:
most interesting thing so far is surely shape mentioning my post and following disappearance without any intent of giving it weight in reading me, so it just looks like he put it there just to put something out there in an urge to look active.

otherwise theres not much worth mentioning, except that im less lazy than my new meta d1 standard.

Considering this is the only post with any sort of substance you've had, I find it hard to believe you've sunk your standards of play lower than this.

I disagree. His posting does not look nervous like he feels pressure. This post does, though, which is funny.

The above is a good post by yamato (if Vviax is mafia) but for this reason I can see it be scum on scum. Not that yamato is not a good player and capable of making such a read town on mafia.

But I don't know. yamato/Vivax.. I need to see more of those 2.

10/10

I guess I'm ignoring Koshi the rest of this game.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:30 GMT
#243
On March 09 2016 03:01 geript wrote:
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On March 09 2016 02:46 Koshi wrote:
My point with above post is that for how good the post by yamato on Vivax was, he doesn't want to convince geript that Vivax is mafia.

That's an interesting point.

I was talking to Vivax.

Geript you were obviously not interested in discussing Vivax, i had already brought him up and you dismissed it.

I asked you more about what you did want to talk about, which was Slam. And it got you to post something reasonably Townie. Mission accomplished.

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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:35 GMT
#245
On March 09 2016 05:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 04:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 09 2016 04:30 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2016 03:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
koshi i don't get it.
yamato didn't have a case to push on that subject.
vivax's read of shape disagreed with geript's read of shape. So yamato was asking if that made geript read vivax in a certain way.

Why was he asking geript that?


to get a read of geript or to benefit from geript's insight?

At some point I believe somebody should try to convince his townreads on his scumreads. In that quote the second paragraph yamato again flips his read on geript for no reason at all or for sure tries to annoy him calling him mafia.

yamato reads geript as town
yamato makes a good point on Vivax
yamato asks geripts read on Vivax while calling geript mafia because he looks like a teenager etcetc.


Doesn't make much sense to me.

I truly believe that English not being your first language makes you much worse of a mafia player, because you clearly have problems understanding what I'm saying in my posts.

I did not have a townread or a scumread on geript to begin with, but I knew he was around so I tried interacting with him and with Vivax. The difference between the interactions is that one explained their read well, and the other (Vivax) told me he always plays like shit now (as if that was ever not the case).

I never called geript mafia. I said he was acting like a teenager in the context of a mafia game. Your comprehension is poor. Stop overreaching your ability to understand what I'm saying.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 08 2016 20:43 GMT
#251
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 00:00 GMT
#299
Vivax is just pretending to care about your alignment so he can say he still thinks you're mafia in a couple pages.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 00:24 GMT
#303
Looks like you have bigger issues, my Austrian friend.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 19:28 GMT
#416
Not opposed to lynching but I want to avoid lynching slam if at all possible.

Would lynch Vivax today 10/10 best play.

I'll go vote him and the rest of you have until deadline to decide how much you trust me.

I have an appointment in half hour and won't be back until after the deadline. Unlucky.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 23:55 GMT
#541
On March 10 2016 08:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog
Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript
Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, Vivax
Rels (1): Koshi
yamato77 (0): Koshi
geript (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting (0):

At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

Oddest set of ppl voting w/ me ever.

Has to be more to it than that, right geript?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 09 2016 23:58 GMT
#545
On March 10 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
goddamn

"on" should be "one"



Welcome to the club that gets flamed for no reason at all.

I flamed you because you said I had reads that I clearly did not.

You're lucky I wasn't more of an ass, you've literally been fabricating reads of mine this entire game as a basis for why you think I'm mafia. It's absurd.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:01 GMT
#548
I have to say, I hate kush's vote placement in that votecount geript quoted. Why is he voting tumble again? Does he have an opinion on Vivax or Slam?

More on this story on tonight's news.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 00:05 GMT
#549
On March 09 2016 23:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night.


So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem.
He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Step up your activity if possible or tell us why if you can't , would also be nice to know how experienced you are at mafia.

I'm particularly interested into knowing whether you think geript's reason to read you is sufficient to read you as town

I can't be active during my classes (except for some small 5-10 minute periods), which are from 8-3 PST. Wednesdays and weekends my schedule is more flexible. I also just post less than most players, usually about one page of filter per day cycle.
I have 2.5 (+1 observed) game of mafia on this site and 70 games of Town of "not even real mafia" Salem.
Geript didn't really give a reason for his read of me, so... no? What are you so interested to find out from that?


do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you?

Would you even care if we lynched you?

To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions."

His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"?
I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against.

I think this is a poor case against Tumble.

1) Vivax did indeed spend a lot of the early game asking pointless questions about anatomy. He really only gave a solid read after I told him he was trash. Even since, he's been more interested in fighting with Koshi than finding mafia. It's pretty funny IMO.

2) Tumble expects SOMETHING from Slam as a defense. Why is sheeping a townread a bad thing, exactly? I don't agree with doing it but I can see how someone in his position does.

Not a solid reason for a #1 scumread IMO.
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