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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 04:58:46
December 17 2015 04:58 GMT
#11
I'll take your b8 OP.

/in
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 26 2015 04:16 GMT
#104
On December 26 2015 11:14 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2015 09:51 disformation wrote:
On December 25 2015 03:18 Shapelog wrote:
On December 25 2015 02:56 disformation wrote:
On December 25 2015 01:19 Shapelog wrote:
No rest for the wicked i suppose


money dont grow on christmas trees


Not true, Chirstmas pot trees grown money at a amazing rate.

Didn't you go to Chirstmas pot and dope college?


Crap. I knew I should have studied something else than computer science. :/


Could of dual major but noooooo
Had to get the single major in the java script.

P.S. Got to go to hospital tomorrow for all day for testing, then on the 27th have the surgery, and on the 28th to the 29th i will come home.

Worse case to shove i get mod killed day 1 for not voting. times like these makes me wish i had a smart phone or laptop


Will the game even start in the next few days? According to the player list we're still short one.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 00:00:07
December 28 2015 23:59 GMT
#187
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name?

And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet.


Nop. Just kush.

Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase"

No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI)

What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


If this is jokephase I got one:

What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating?
+ Show Spoiler +
Promoted to diamond league


It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself.

On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 00:02 GMT
#188
Oops, didn't mean to hit edit. I didn't change anything pinky swear.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 00:13 GMT
#197
On December 29 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:59 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name?

And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet.


Nop. Just kush.

Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase"

No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI)

What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


If this is jokephase I got one:

What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating?
+ Show Spoiler +
Promoted to diamond league


It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself.

On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town.


Why am I likely town?


Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet.

On December 29 2015 09:02 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt, what did you find fishy about Glowings opening?


He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like.

On December 29 2015 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol did I? Anyway, you're now my buddy!!!


On December 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
100% true

##Vote: kush


On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
You're the quickest townread I have ever had!

Hi! Welcome to the forums!

Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax


He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 00:20 GMT
#198
On December 29 2015 09:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Greetings everybody! We're going to start the day by getting rid of obvious scum. And by obvious scum, I mean the dota players. Because as we all know Dota is a shitty game played by shitty people so it's never too soon to start taking out the trash!

##vote Fidei86


You know it's one thing for the SC2 purists to trash DOTA but I'm not about to take that from "DOTA: Casual Cashgrab edition"

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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 00:31 GMT
#201
On December 29 2015 09:28 Shapelog wrote:
I like Kmatt, he hates my main race in sc2 ^.^ (though, tbf i do not use ults a lot, only like 60% of my ZvT games)


I meant that as I play Zerg, and got promoted shortly after coming back for LotV. Now I can't tell if it's because I got the hang of it quicker or I was carried by Ultras. It's all ZvZs anyway so I think I'm good.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 01:11 GMT
#211
On December 29 2015 10:00 NocturneMage wrote:
KMatt from post 197 you are suggesting that probability is a reason that GB is more likely town, yet the reality here is 3/11 chance (I know I'm town and you would on yourself from the perspective that you are town) there is mafia and in this case, that you might suggest there is potential mafia behaviour (buddying in this case) for GB.

From the perspective of an experienced player, and/or based on his repetition you suggested, do you see that possibly coming from town or mafia? Do you see any other interactions from GB that would point you towards either direction.

Furthermore, do you have any other observations on the other players that have made reads/interactions in thread?


I didn't really mean anything by saying that he was "probably town", just purely the 3/11 (27%) vs 8/11 (73%) chance factor. I actually didn't think about the buddying factor though, since none of the people he was "buddying" came off as suspicious to me. I wouldn't go as far as to say that GB is showing mafia behavior, just that he stood out to me.

If I had to guess right now, his posts would make more sense for a mafia to do. However, that seems like it would be an obvious (mafia) rookie mistake (considering a scrub "caught" him on it), which I wouldn't expect of him. I'm still neutral on it for now.

Kind of the same with Irish. He's certainly putting more ideas out there than a lot of other posters, but nothing that would really swing me either way.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 02:40 GMT
#222
On December 29 2015 11:32 Shapelog wrote:
Time to ladder on sc2. Im pretty sure i did play Kmatt a day or two ago when I was placing in a ZvZ (i was wildcard ).

Will come back shortly when there is more content or i get bored and start talking to myself.


I haven't actually laddered this week, thankfully. Random in ranked games are my trigger.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:35 GMT
#276
On December 30 2015 01:30 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:22 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:10 mderg wrote:
On December 30 2015 00:27 Shapelog wrote:
On December 29 2015 16:58 Irishbound wrote:
@Shape - I've explained my issue with Giygas post as much as I can really. What content specifically are you waiting for and what's stopping you from getting reads from what's been posted thus far?


I Generally like having more then 2 pages (which half of which is either me or opening jokes) to base reads off of. I usually start subtracting the trolololo and add actual useful crap later into the day and into the later days.
100% tryhard mode this game. I promise.

@Fidel Castro (I must tryhard)
I do not know about GB (only play with him in nutcracker for a bit tbh) or NM.

About Onegu, His VT claim is dumb, but from what i heard from other players, this is the norm for him? Idk, I can tell more about him once he starts posting atcual content (if he does.) Last game i played (which was my first) he was more ativce days 1 and 2, but fell off during the later days. This might be because Koshi died thou.

But i really shouldn't jump to conclusions yet based off another game. Especially as i was compared as a rsoul. Smurf (still trying to figure that out)

Also I am not that experience IMO. I played 20 mafia games back in college during freshman year (so like 4-5 years ago) And nutcracker was my 1st forum mafia game ^.^

Personally, this morning I am giving a town read towards Irish and maybe NM. Irish for his general posting and podding questions.

Mderg is another i could place as town. At first i felt his intro post felt a bit scummy and a bit after wards espially with this post:
On December 29 2015 18:32 mderg wrote:
Meh, reading this thread is difficult when you don't know most of those names.

People are quick to jump on GB, I like that because his opening was fishy but I also don't like it because it feels too easy. I'll have to see how that continues.

Don't like GiygaS so far... Has made like 7 posts but I didn't see anything of substance. The fist reads also don't really seem that strong.


I have a slight townread on NocturneMage, he's being out there and being open about his thoughts. He's also asking lots of questions which makes me think he's trying to solve the game. He is a dirty league player, though...


The Bold feels a bit like hes repeating a lot of what people are saying, which indicatives to me mafia trying to look present.

However, hes recent posts on me gives me a bit of a more town feel. I do admit, to me, it is a bit early for filtering, but the fact he is thinking and perhaps doing it makes me want to say he is leaning more to town. I just want to bring up the above fact (repeating).

Koshi died?
I'm pretty sure I've played with Onegu in the past but I don't remember him doing stupid stuff like that. That's why I have no idea what to make of his posts so far.

I can see how the part about GiygaS can be seen as repeating what others have said but I definitely can't see it with my stance on GlowingBear. Can you elaborate more on that?


Yeah Koshi and Kush both died on the same night because mafia unboxed a gun.
Onegu called me, Koshi, and damdred scum all game and on day 3 and up keep saying we were scum and that was it. his only reads were posted on d1 and he tunneled.

Also see above post for Gb.

Right now Onegu is just a huge questionmark for me.


Was just about to say the same. Looks like he waited almost whole IRL day before exposing himself to the thread. Is that a meta thing for him? Not to jump to conclusions, but it seems like he was waiting for a few other people (like Scott, GB, and ShapeLog) to come under a bit of fire before he would garner any attention himself. Not saying I have a lean on him but I'd feel much better if he would share with the class a little.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:40 GMT
#278
On December 30 2015 01:35 Shapelog wrote:
Also people reaction times are already interesting enough. Like it took NM 5 mins to respond to it (although he was on before so idk)


Might be my scrub showing, but I wouldn't think on that too much. Since we're on the internet, I would imagine people are bouncing between a couple of tabs before they come back to refresh this page. I know I often go back and review my own posts because I feel picky about sentence structure and grammar, etc. That really bothers me in this setup because I can't edit so if I post and see something I don't like, I'm forced to accept my repetitive structure or run-on sentence, etc.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:40 GMT
#281
On December 30 2015 01:40 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:35 Shapelog wrote:
Also people reaction times are already interesting enough. Like it took NM 5 mins to respond to it (although he was on before so idk)


Might be my scrub showing, but I wouldn't think on that too much. Since we're on the internet, I would imagine people are bouncing between a couple of tabs before they come back to refresh this page. I know I often go back and review my own posts because I feel picky about sentence structure and grammar, etc. That really bothers me in this setup because I can't edit so if I post and see something I don't like, I'm forced to accept my repetitive structure or run-on sentence, etc.


Which is to offer another explanation why it would take longer to respond.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#287
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


Does that mean, barring any exceptional circumstances, he's a lynch vote for you by meta-knowledge alone?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#294
On December 30 2015 02:16 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:11 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.


We shall untie and kill you. Then sacrifice u to our Kita god ^.^


I would think he'd be easier to kill if we kept him tied up.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:06 GMT
#358
On December 30 2015 08:42 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 08:39 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 08:30 nooniansoong wrote:
and then he white knights nm
white knighting=coming to someone's defense unecessarily


U think his comment about me asking about respond times is white knighting?


minor white knight, because your comment had the unwritten implication that nm is scummy because he takes a long time to respond.


I didn't make the post to imply that NM was town, just that post times shouldn't be all that indicative of affiliation this early. There are patterns of posting that would draw suspicion, but I don't think Shapelog mentioned any and I certainly haven't seen anything weird from him. NMs posts had content, but I didn't see any agenda other than information gathering. GBs posts at the time had barely any content, but he seemed to be trying to "get in good" with everyone.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:10 GMT
#362
On December 30 2015 08:29 nooniansoong wrote:
he's ridiculously noncommittal


Since you seem to be more experienced, what would an appropriate amount of "commitment" be here? I know a few people have tossed out votes but most are either joking or not really grounded. I've been reading everyone's posts but without any context (like knowing that X was mafia when we thought they were town at the post time) I don't see much information to commit to.

Granted it's day one, so it seems like winging it on the first lynch is the way to go barring any outstanding evidence.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:19 GMT
#366
Reading over Giygas through his filter is making me like him less and less. Only post with any content was:

On December 29 2015 10:41 GiygaS wrote:
The joke was forced in that I wanted to post to say "I'm here" basically, but didn't really have much to say.

As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post.


Which doesn't really tell us anything. He kind of agrees with an unfounded town read but is still skeptical of it and doesn't have any conclusion other than that GB might be scum, but no logic train or evidence of any kind.

I wouldn't mind that so much if it weren't 21 hours ago. The vote comes up tomorrow and he's completely off the radar.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:25 GMT
#368
On December 30 2015 09:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort

I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one


Well you're right that I haven't gone hard on anyone yet. While I still believe there's not enough evidence to properly decide now, reading through the filters will probably give me enough to make my choice come tomorrow.

For now I'm probably gonna vote GB or Giygas.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:43 GMT
#374
On December 30 2015 09:40 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 10:11 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 10:00 NocturneMage wrote:
KMatt from post 197 you are suggesting that probability is a reason that GB is more likely town, yet the reality here is 3/11 chance (I know I'm town and you would on yourself from the perspective that you are town) there is mafia and in this case, that you might suggest there is potential mafia behaviour (buddying in this case) for GB.

From the perspective of an experienced player, and/or based on his repetition you suggested, do you see that possibly coming from town or mafia? Do you see any other interactions from GB that would point you towards either direction.

Furthermore, do you have any other observations on the other players that have made reads/interactions in thread?


I didn't really mean anything by saying that he was "probably town", just purely the 3/11 (27%) vs 8/11 (73%) chance factor. I actually didn't think about the buddying factor though, since none of the people he was "buddying" came off as suspicious to me. I wouldn't go as far as to say that GB is showing mafia behavior, just that he stood out to me.

If I had to guess right now, his posts would make more sense for a mafia to do. However, that seems like it would be an obvious (mafia) rookie mistake (considering a scrub "caught" him on it), which I wouldn't expect of him. I'm still neutral on it for now.

Kind of the same with Irish. He's certainly putting more ideas out there than a lot of other posters, but nothing that would really swing me either way.


So u have list the chances of him being town, then null him, then put him up for vote?

What has changed? I mean all that has happen is that he scum read u. did you reread and a earlier post seems scummy now or what?

I can understand ur GiygaS Khan vote thou.


I don't think much has changed. To be honest, I did have a scumlean on GB, but I don't want to assert that since I wasn't confident enough in my own "evidence". Looking back over it I think I'm comfortable dropping my scumlean on GB. With that said:

##vote GiygaS
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 30 2015 00:49 GMT
#375
On December 30 2015 09:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:32 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 09:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort

I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one


So basically a non commitment issue. Yeah that's true.
At least ik what ur prob. is now.

Can u still explain y if i had a read on him matter?


I usually delay explanation and post just votes and questions just to have people talking. If I answered you right at that moment I would destroy this premise. So I was just trying to have people talking about it for a longer time.


While that seems like an effective tactic, I really can't like using it as town since that fits "make posts that stir up trouble without actually contributing to the thread" to a T. Not five minutes after I toss my scumread...

If you really do have an argument against me, let's get it out into the open. I don't think there's anything to lose by hiding information from all three of us in here right now.
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