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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 09:58:34
October 13 2015 09:58 GMT
#8
/in: Open or /cohost, if need be. This time I prefer playing though , especially due to EU deadline.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 13 2015 12:51 GMT
#24
I was coached by HtS before and I can confirm that she is awesome.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 15 2015 07:25 GMT
#95
/out

Will have limited internet, starting from 19th. Forgot about that, I'm moving to another flat. Will be for 5-10 days.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 15 2015 18:34 GMT
#102
Can I re-in? Turns out I'll have internet on monday. If so, /in.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 16 2015 09:33 GMT
#115
Cool! Looking forward to a great game. Pregame disclaimer: I'll lurk a lot I guess. I'll keep up by reading in spare minutes and will try to post whenever I can, however those opportunities will be limited.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 16 2015 17:54 GMT
#126
lol I was like "WHERE IS MY PM" and then I realized that BH made that post like 47 seconds early
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 16 2015 17:56 GMT
#127
Also, /confirm
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 17 2015 17:18 GMT
#152
I fucking cut my right hand deep during moving/building up the kitchen. It's so hard to type (((
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 17 2015 20:44 GMT
#193
hey guys I'm here.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 17 2015 21:13 GMT
#208
On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.

I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.

you're already managing to do so and it sucks. don't go down this road.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 17 2015 21:14 GMT
#211
On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.


Hi! Are you happy to be here?

Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 18 2015 07:47 GMT
#277
Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted


this is bullshit, I said it like 3 times pregame. however let's start. MD - would policy "anti-spam" lynch anytime.
Kelsier gets a scum lean from me since he comes in the thread and basically locates scum in the 3 most active players thus far.

i dunno why everyone jumps on the "Farah bus what is this" shit why can't she be lying? well even if she's lying, it's NAI I think so I give her a null and not a town lean as others do.

top scum would be moosydoosy simply because there's like five opportunities where he's posting useless stuff, successfully pulling sicklucker and gb into gif fights. I remember the game where he was scum and I was town and he was overwhelmingly discussing and discussing.. also a bs vote from him. well that's not too interesting because it's day1 and even first half.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 18 2015 19:21 GMT
#401
Disclaimer: I haven't read deeply into the thread. I skimmed up to this point. This is going to be gut heavy.

First up, going to bring up the one serious interaction I'm in:

On October 18 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.


Hi! Are you happy to be here?

Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy.


I can see where you're coming from with Moosy but why do you think GB is spamming? If anything, I'm more guilty of it than he is. And what is so bad about rolling VT? To some people, its the best role in the game.

I mean, would you rather have rolled scum? I'm not really sure where the disappointment is coming from.

Yes I'd have rather rolled scum or at least blue. It's (spare last newbie game where I co-hosted) the 3rd or 4th consecutive VT game for me. I don't love the guessing in this game, I love the lying. Obviously I prefer playing scum. Also I think I'm better at scum. Last game I was scum in was actually the game that got a 3 game ban to sicklucker because I was tryhard not conceding as the last scum. Good times. Let's get constructive now:

Thus far there's nothing too good to be had. Kelsier is way too active to have rolled scum again given how he reacted last Student Mafia to being scum. MoosyDoosy can be town or scum. I can't read him at all. Gut says "lynch before he misleads town", brain says lynching the (most likely to be) most active player in the game is bullshit.

I recommend to not let Shining slip off the radar. He asks lots of specific questions to specific players, thus far me, scott, kelsier, while the rest seems to be banter such as this:

On October 18 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote:
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On October 18 2015 11:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie?

I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck


I stopped playing when my gaming laptop blew up and I had to downgrade to a Macbook. Now League is all I play


I think that can very well be scum pretending to be constructive.

Also I see that while MoosyDoosy pushed me, GB insta-defended me. Given they joked around about being scum before (as a resemblence to their last game were they were indeed scum together if I understood correctly) it's a behaviour that might be tying them together. Since afaik BH randomizes roles, how high are the chances that exactly the same constellation is happening again? I don't think so. I can see one of them being scum but not both. I don't know what that is worth but I feel like we should keep that in mind. Chances are they are both town but I don't think so. MD pushed me hard, knowing I'm not the most active player. Can be scum pushing a mislynch (he did so already in the one game we played together). MD is my top scum read atm.

Farah feels town to me.

On October 19 2015 03:29 FarahBlackwing wrote:
However I'll end this here and move on.

I think kelsier is,most likely town. If he was scum a good plan would be to let moos and myself spam up the thread when we can't see eye to eye. But he interjects to try to get us back on a different path. I see good town motivation and his dogged questioning and prodding seems to come from town.


This feels genuine. Running out of time (also my finger hurts as fuck) so I'll be gone for another hour or two.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 18 2015 23:02 GMT
#478
my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.

##vote lonemeow

Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.

On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote:
GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:

On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.


This is town thinking.



As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.



On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.


Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.


On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.


So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?


again where did I say he was town?

reading is really hard for some people.


If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.

This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.

On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote:
GlowingBear is top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:

On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.


This is town thinking.



As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a paranoid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.



On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.


Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.


On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.


So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd want to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?


again where did I say he was town?

reading is really hard for some people.


If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.


no it just says he is wrong.


Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.


how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?


I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.


then why vote me before asking?


Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.

Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?

So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 18 2015 23:02 GMT
#479
I should add that I'll jump on a moosy wagon as soon as it keeps going. good night now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 19 2015 06:46 GMT
#488
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.

Two games. One scum game one town game that I co-hosted . I'm here for some hours, waiting for internet guy to configure internet in my new flat. I have a laptop and I have 4G via tablet so I can actually keep up. Gonna reread the thread and try to give some thoughts.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 19 2015 10:59 GMT
#501
Moosy/scott interaction is also interesting because of this:

On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.


This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here...

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it.


I don't think this is a scum interaction. Moosy pushes me, scott nullifies that plus points out negative things in moosy's playstyle. So I don't think at all they are mafia together. Scott keeps it up:

On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.


Pressure, questions, and then he drops it:

On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.

I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.


Just was making sure - Thank you.

To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense.
I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread.


And now he disappears. I mean I can see the things on scott but I can't imagine scum scott and scum moosy interacting in that way that early in the game, it just doesn't make sense. So I'd say we have scum in between moosy/scott but I wouldn't say both are scum. I townread kels and I clearly townread rels from what I see so i'm glad to help on that wagon.

##unvote ##vote scott12345
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 19 2015 11:00 GMT
#502
##unvote ##vote scott31337
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 19 2015 11:13 GMT
#505
This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here...


I think that's a soft defense or at least that's what I took it for. Also I'm not sure if that was a joke vote. Can be scum casting his vote at first opportunity before he gets nailed on a late wagon or something. I think that interaction is completely nuts if both are scum. Why would scum ever play this way? And I don't think md/scott are players that orchestrate such stuff in their qt.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 19 2015 11:18 GMT
#507
wait, you lost me halfway. I thought he was talking about "fuck me im again vt" comment. gonna reread.
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