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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#4
/in
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2015 08:32 GMT
#62
I just realized I'm a complete idiot and I'm going on holiday on Thursday till Monday. I'll have to /out unless we start on Monday.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 05 2015 19:34 GMT
#72
I won't be around until late on the evening on Monday btw, flying home and all that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 08:58 GMT
#157
Rayn
Rayn
who is scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:00 GMT
#159
Yes.
##Vote Clarity_nl
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:01 GMT
#160
I'm also claiming Millderer.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:07 GMT
#163
On August 11 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


If you are talking about this post, yes it is the one thing stopping me from having a strong town read on trfel.

With how much you played with trfel it is just weird for an early read.

I honestly don't think I mind the read as much as the first and last line. The arguments itself suggest he's pretty certain ("hard for me to see her... be mafia") yet both the first and last sentence seed doubt about his own argument and make it more likely it's ignored.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:09 GMT
#164
Okay nvm with the way Trfel defends his read later on I'm actually okay with since he doesn't try to brush it down as much but stands by it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:13 GMT
#167
Rayn just opened Ruxxar's game in Desert Center and saw you played with him there, what'd you take away from his game there?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 09:17 GMT
#169
I hope you're not gonna drive over anything in your construction vehicles whilst playing mafia on your phone mr. perkele.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 11:07 GMT
#174
I thought you really liked me Dammy
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 12:38 GMT
#178
On August 11 2015 21:25 Vivax wrote:
I have a feels-based suspicion of Artanis

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:31 GMT
#410
I think Ruxxar, Vivax and Rayn are town. Ruxxar because he's going all gung-ho on this Artanis/Palmar thing on Vivax and I've rarely seen mafia makes posts like this:
On August 12 2015 04:06 ruXxar wrote:
Ok so I mixed up the order of things and made me look like ass.
I know that.

So I'm going to put this fuckup behind me and look ahead.
You can hang on in the past and vote me and look like ass when I flip town, or you can move on and we'll find the real mafia.

It's the kind of martyring confidence that only comes from town.

Vivax because he's too upfront with all his opinions and pretty carefree. This post especially
On August 12 2015 02:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
maybe both :/

You also said one of us is scum, why not both?


Very possible.
What do you think of hopeless?


I hate the way he plays cause of past experiences, but right now he's the enemy of my enemy so I'm cutting him a big chunk of slack until I know what you are.

I'm still wondering what these random questions are supposed to achieve. Didn't your opinion on me change in our entire convo?

How he's so open about cutting the enemy of his enemy slack for that reason is something I don't think scum Vivax would feel comfortable to say.

Rayn because he's hard townreading me when there was little reason for a hard townread. I think a scum Rayn would soft town me at best, but it's clear he sees something and it feels like he's trying to figure out the game rather than throw salt around.

I think VE might be mafia. First reason is:
On August 12 2015 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh I wanted to be the very first to throw scum on Artanis just for being good at being scum. He's scary as fuck and if he lives longer than 3 days we kill him no questions period k? Thx.

I don't recall VE being someone that fearmongers this much. I'm far from the best mafia player around as well. I've had two good mafia games and the rest have been washes. It also achieves scum objectives in the sense that it throws suspicion on me without actually quantifying it with anything. Vivax did something similar, but he's Vivax.

Secondly, he clearly wasn't reading the thread.
On August 12 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
The real question is: why isn't anyone else suspicious of Trfel if he's NOT mafia. That's the real question.

Plenty of people indicated townreads on Trfel at that point, and I had called his play suspicious as well before coming back to it later.

I don't feel that this VE is the town VE.
##Vote VisceraEyes
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:41 GMT
#414
Rayn, Ruxx is town. Stop tunneling him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:51 GMT
#423
On August 12 2015 05:47 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis, what do you think of vivax explanation here?
I don't understand what he meant, can you explain it?

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:46 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:
I don't understand why you don't want to push artsnis. Explain why it makes you comfortable when he does nothing even if he's scummy?

yes this Vivax. I also want an answer to this.


My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.

He's saying that if he doesn't pressure me and I do nothing, I'm mafia, so he figures not pressuring me will reveal my alignment. He's wrong though since in Imperial I wasn't really pressured and still tried hard, but as a rule I try much harder in towngames than mafia games.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#424
On August 12 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do people just say stuff without even reading what i write?

Was this to me?
What do you think of VE?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:54 GMT
#428
On August 12 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do people just say stuff without even reading what i write?

Was this to me?
What do you think of VE?

yes
town

Why?
Why?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:56 GMT
#430
On August 12 2015 05:54 ruXxar wrote:
We should lynch hopeless rider.

He's like 99% mafia imo.

Slightly above average mafia because of some townreads but he's often useless. Don't think it says much.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#435
On August 12 2015 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do people just say stuff without even reading what i write?

Was this to me?
What do you think of VE?

yes
town

Why?
Why?

I don't think you should answer the first question like that.
VE is town because of stuff and things.

Like how can you actually vote VE over ruxxar dude? YOU, of all the people?

Because VE is far more likely to be scum than Ruxxar, as Ruxxar is town. The way he behaves is not a way scum behave and he's still far too motivated and posty after being tunneled by you and Vivax.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 11 2015 20:59 GMT
#436
deconduo could you please do something useful?
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