EPTOn June 07 2015 09:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
First time playing Mafia. Sounds interesting. In!
Oh, hi First time playing Mafia. Sounds interesting. In!
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On June 07 2015 10:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: I've visited TL for years XD You should see how I'm doing in FPL this season! (though I am set for a pretty big drop this week, I think)Oh wow, hi Trfel! Didn't know you came to TL too. :D Also pretty cool meeting you in this niche part of the TL forums. Are you here for this round too? And I've played played like 12+ games of TL Mafia before. Probably not playing this game, I've had trouble motivating myself to play mafia for the past few months, but maybe! | ||
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On June 07 2015 11:18 Fecalfeast wrote: To me, FPL feels really luck-based? Or more likely, that's just what I say because I don't do as well as I feel I need to I thought this round was going to be my round and I'm getting hammered | ||
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On June 07 2015 11:25 Fecalfeast wrote: They release the lineups a few days before....Hard to predict who is going to play, hard to predict who's been training just to snipe someone (DeParture vs herO) Maybe if I looked at more than just wins and losses I could do better. You do your trades based on that and that really helps a ton. | ||
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On June 07 2015 11:38 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah, but as long as you only have 2 players who aren't likely to play next week, you can trade them out again. Trade tax isn't bad as long as you trade for players who win.No I mean, it's hard to predict who will play multiple weeks in a row. Players who do well 2 weeks in a row get benched for who-know-what reason. trade tax kills me But yeah, using past games in the season (or even last season) helps to predict who will play regularly. I feel that I have a fairly good idea, having watched SC2 for way too many years, but I'm still nowhere near as good as kitaman27 and a few others here XD | ||
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 I don't have a spare trade to get rid of Dear Byebye FPL rank | ||
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Newbies 1. Rels 2. n00bKing 3. MoosyDoosy 4. Sulfurus 5. boxerfred 6. ruXxar 7. Fake)Plants Veterans 1. Kickstart 2. Trfel 3. WaveofShadow 4. geript 5. Oatsmaster 6. batsnacks Not Playing Half the Sky (replace instead) Savant.GL (TL Banned) Fidei86 (out instead) | ||
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The deadline isn't ideal for me. I should be able to be there for most of the deadlines (I hope), but I likely won't be able to stay and wait for the flip or post after the flip. | ||
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On June 12 2015 07:18 Kickstart wrote: Why don't you like it when people answer questions directed at others?A friendly PSA: I don't like lurkers or liers or people who answer questions directed at other people. | ||
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On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote: ........Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking. If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions. At least that is what I think. The "at least that is what I think" pushes it over the top. I could see it as a joke, but then there's no reason to include the last sentence. It's either inherently contradictory or unnecessarily cautious. Scum lean. | ||
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On June 12 2015 07:46 ruXxar wrote: Wait....What I meant by the last sentence was that that was my number one assumption of why he made that statement. I won't pretend to be a mind reader, but I find it strange that he throws out unsubstantiated claims like that. So far kickstart is a scumlean for me. So you are serious about your explanation for not answering a question directed at someone else, because it helps them answer the question if they are scum. But in saying this, you answered a question directed at someone else, your scum read? This explanation is going to be good. | ||
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On June 12 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote: Can you please clarify, why are you scumreading Kickstart?Yes my answer was serious. I see now how that actually denied us information from kick start. It was a mistake on my part to actually answer that question. | ||
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On June 12 2015 08:04 ruXxar wrote: Thank you very much for answering my question.I didn't like his statement about not liking liars. This whole game is based on the concept of deception. If you don't like that aspect of the game, why are you here? You might claim that you like hunting lying mafia, But it's not a given beforehand what role you will be, so that doesn't make sense either. I have no prior info about any of the players here, so he might have some personal conviction for why he said that, but to me it didn't seem like a genuine well thought through statement. ##vote ruXxar | ||
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1. Answered a question directed to someone else, while explaining why answering questions directed at others hurts town + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote: RuXxar provided a reasonable explanation for why it is bad to answer questions directed at other people. However, this explanation was an answer to my question directed at Kickstart. In this very post, he's doing why he says that this is bad.Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking. If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions. At least that is what I think. He's confident enough to ignore any potential purpose that I had for this question, confident enough in Kickstart's alignment that he doesn't want to hear Kickstart's answer, but not confident enough to leave the post without stating that this is what he thinks, implying that he could be wrong. 2. The person he answered a question for is now his scumread + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2015 07:46 ruXxar wrote: When he is questioned, ruxXar throws out a scum lean. However, he does this on Kickstart, the same player he just answered a question for.What I meant by the last sentence was that that was my number one assumption of why he made that statement. I won't pretend to be a mind reader, but I find it strange that he throws out unsubstantiated claims like that. So far kickstart is a scumlean for me. Imagine that ruXxar is town. He sees Kickstart make a post, but doesn't try to look into his alignment. Then he sees me (Trfel) ask a question to Kickstart about that post, then immediately answers the question without stopping to realize that this is the same behavior criticized in his explanation (and he realizes that his play hurt town here). Only after answering my question to Kickstart does he bother to actually think about Kickstart's alignment. I can't see this coming from a town mindset, from someone who is actually interested in determining people's alignments. Furthermore, he hasn't made any alignment-related comments about anyone in the game other than Kickstart. RuXxar is being contradictory, cautious, and is showing a mindset that isn't towny at all. He's not interested in thinking about people's alignments. | ||
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On June 12 2015 08:16 Kickstart wrote: Can you please clarify what you mean in the bolded sentence?Also lol@ruxxar not finding the jokey first posts 'genuine enough'. You so silly. or scum. Ill let you decide which it is. | ||
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On June 12 2015 08:29 Kickstart wrote: Thanks.I'm joking with him it means nothing. His statement was silly and scummy, I said I would let him decide which one he wants us to classify it as. (hint: I think it is mildly scummy). On June 12 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: Now that you know that there are three mafia, do you stand by this statement?On another note, do we know how many Mafias there are? If there are two Mafias, Oatsmaster and Kickstart may be those two and may have set this up to make everyone confused and make people like you two fight amongst yourselves. | ||
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On June 12 2015 08:19 Trfel wrote: Please tell me why I'm wrong, or vote for ruXxar.ruXxar 1. Answered a question directed to someone else, while explaining why answering questions directed at others hurts town + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2015 07:36 ruXxar wrote: RuXxar provided a reasonable explanation for why it is bad to answer questions directed at other people. However, this explanation was an answer to my question directed at Kickstart. In this very post, he's doing why he says that this is bad.Usually you want to hear the reasoning of the person you're asking. If someone answers the question before him, you potentially open up for someone else to make a logical conclusion beforehand, and then the guy the question was directed at get an easy bandwagon onto that guys conclusions. At least that is what I think. He's confident enough to ignore any potential purpose that I had for this question, confident enough in Kickstart's alignment that he doesn't want to hear Kickstart's answer, but not confident enough to leave the post without stating that this is what he thinks, implying that he could be wrong. 2. The person he answered a question for is now his scumread + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2015 07:46 ruXxar wrote: When he is questioned, ruxXar throws out a scum lean. However, he does this on Kickstart, the same player he just answered a question for.What I meant by the last sentence was that that was my number one assumption of why he made that statement. I won't pretend to be a mind reader, but I find it strange that he throws out unsubstantiated claims like that. So far kickstart is a scumlean for me. Imagine that ruXxar is town. He sees Kickstart make a post, but doesn't try to look into his alignment. Then he sees me (Trfel) ask a question to Kickstart about that post, then immediately answers the question without stopping to realize that this is the same behavior criticized in his explanation (and he realizes that his play hurt town here). Only after answering my question to Kickstart does he bother to actually think about Kickstart's alignment. I can't see this coming from a town mindset, from someone who is actually interested in determining people's alignments. Furthermore, he hasn't made any alignment-related comments about anyone in the game other than Kickstart. RuXxar is being contradictory, cautious, and is showing a mindset that isn't towny at all. He's not interested in thinking about people's alignments. | ||
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