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ShoCkeyy
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ShoCkeyy
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Just super awkward way to say you're a vet. From my knowledge, most vets would come out and say they're vet after they were shot for the first time. By you saying you're vet, instantly either tells me you're mafia or just a townie trying to take a hit. I don't want to vote yet, but I just wanted to throw that out there for everyone else. Also Damdred does have some bad posts, but he just seems like he's defending himself against early accusations. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Check this out: GB's first post when the game started: On May 18 2015 05:04 GlowingBear wrote: ##Vote: Damdred Mafia-ish opening. Does anyone know how to turn back to mobile mode? I turned website mode again, and AGAIN I can't find the reverse button. Palmar's first post when the game started: On May 18 2015 06:25 Palmar wrote: ##vote damdred 100% mafia. Both of them going after you before even trying to state why you're mafia, I'm not protecting you, but it just seems weird for both of them to have the same opening post in the game. While GB has brought contribution to the thread, Palmar has not, but went ahead of voted for you along with GB. Either they're a team or Palmar is just riding off of GB's posts. Both of them are fishy. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Instantly votes (to drive discussion ok) Says he's Vet on first day (weird) List of people (Creates a list of people in the game who he thinks may be mafia or townie, which didn't really bring anything to the table. It was just copy and paste of some of people's opening posts). To me, it can either be he's trying to drive away any finger pointing to himself or he's really some one has that has a role. On May 16 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote: /in Gonna try a different approach What if that different approach is being mafia? On September 12 2014 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: I don't like your idea. I understand it, but I don't like it. You're being too careless here. Making a list and not caring much for mislynches is irresponsible. It makes game easier to mafia, there will be less effort from town and we will have more chances of mislynching townies. I think you might be mafia for considering it. Being careless, specially now at late game, is pretty much a mafia mindset. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 18 2015 23:40 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, have you played on these forums before? Yea, it's been over 5 years ago though a lot of things changed it seems, not going to lie, I don't even know some of the words you guys are using as references (plynches, sheeping?) On May 19 2015 01:20 GlowingBear wrote: What do you think of shockey's bad push on me? On May 19 2015 01:24 Damdred wrote: I think I commented on shockey initially and he still hasn't bothered to flag out call you mafia which is just bad, his throwing accusations without actually believing them is horrible. Also bad push? Why would it be a bad push? No one has questioned you yet on any of your posts. Just cause I'm throwing accusations doesn't mean I don't believe them. I don't want to put scum on some one with out having proper evidence, GB has yet to try and refute my accusations, just calls them bad which furthers my belief and I have still yet to vote. On May 19 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: So, is Shockey Mafia? The only thing he has done was trying to discredit me with bad reasoning, and fucked off. I think he said he wouldn't have time this morning but it's like 6pm in the UK. So by questioning you, I'm instantly mafia, good logic. I work and never said I wouldn't have time this morning, that was yesterday when I had to pick up my wife from work. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 02:52 GlowingBear wrote: You point out earlier that I instantly vote, comparing it to Palmar's vote, like it is scummy. Then you point out again that I instantly vote, but understands it was for discussion driving only. So why even pointing that out as scummy? And why not raising suspicions on Palmar, for instance? I'm your only scum read as far as I know. Regarding the veteran claim, it was a joke. You should be able to see it because it was a direct answer to stutters "don't claim unnecessarily" thing. Also, you also admit I could be town trying to take a shot, so I have no idea why are you pointing this out again. Your opinion on my list post is wrong since you say I only copy paste openings, when that's not it. I was also the first one to bring suspicions on sciberbia, so I do bring something new. Bad reason again. This means you didn't even read something you called me scum for Then you bring something from pre game to call me Mafia, before I even know my alignment. Sounds like a joke but... Who knows... I poked at both of you due to opening posts but Palmar has been gone since early today, hard to read. I just find it funny that you posted that joke post to start discussion, Palmar instantly votes for damdred as his opening post, talks smack then leaves with this as one of his last posts: On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote: Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist. Onegu GlowingBear Zealos shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment. Thank you! Not a mention of damdred in his list even though he voted for him as his opening post. He also has you on the list in which you give a vague question that doesn't even attempt to refute his list or question him. Either way, my vote is for ##palmar or ##ObiWanShinobi Reason behind Obi? His posts seem like he doesn't care to help town and just wants to follow the bandwagon (mafia ppl?) | ||
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On May 19 2015 05:12 Stutters695 wrote: Then why did you ignore that he clearly said shitlist and it had nothing to do with being mafia? I didn't ignore it and I never said GB was mafia directly, nor do I think he's mafia yet after throwing posts at him to see his argument style which I didn't much see in the Palmar posts due to reasons. I do however keep him under my list and already have mentioned my claim. On May 19 2015 05:23 sciberbia wrote: @ShoCkeyy What puzzles me here is that your entire filter seems to consist of you building up suspicion against GB, and then you conclude by saying you will vote for either Palmar or Obi. What do you mean by "I won't truly know until Palmar is gone"? I still build my suspicion upon GB, but I truly don't have much against him other than him trying to "figure" out whos mafia. If Palmar is gone and is mafia, then that can mean Obi is mafia as well. GB mentions damdred, Palmar votes first, Obi comes in second 15mins apart to also vote for damdred. Obi gives nothing but w.e posts that don't contribute while Palmar gives random posts as well, both nearly been gone for most of the day (Obi isn't in Palmar shitlist). This all some how ties GB in here since he is one of the most active players. So I just question him first due to Palmar shitlist and see what kind of posts I can get out of him and I just don't feel like GB is mafia for now. On May 19 2015 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: Heh. I've already debunked ALL your arguments against me. You don't even directly attack my post and just says I'm on your list. You simply decided I'm Mafia and found reasons to call me so. You didn't see weird posts THEN decided I'm Mafia. So you think obi has been useless, but why not even mention Vivax here? Vivax has in my opinion been more helpful On May 19 2015 01:13 Vivax wrote: In case anyone's interested I'm leaning scum on Palmar and Obi. Just from past things and a little re-skim I started leaning towards Palmar and Obi after reading this. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 05:31 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockey On May 19 2015 06:02 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote ShoCkeyy And Palmar has yet to post. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, address to this directly, please. On May 19 2015 05:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: I poked at both of you due to opening posts but Palmar has been gone since early today, hard to read. I just find it funny that you posted that joke post to start discussion, Palmar instantly votes for damdred as his opening post, talks smack then leaves with this as one of his last posts: I pointed you out because you were the most vocal, but you didn't even respond to any of my posts from the beginning, instead you asked me this: On May 18 2015 23:40 GlowingBear wrote: Shockey, have you played on these forums before? Which lead me to keep going after you, also, that first post can be scummy or discussion which is why I mention both. There's no true way to tell. Now that Palmar mentions he will follow you through and through, gives me the reason to believe he's mafia. On May 19 2015 07:08 sciberbia wrote: OK I don't know whether you have ever played with Palmar, but I have, and I can tell you that it is very likely a coincidence that he has copied two of GB's votes. By putting GB on his shitlist, Palmar has effectively said that in his opinion, GB "should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment". Now why would Palmar copy votes from a player that he thinks is useless? He wouldn't do this even if he were mafia. If he were going to copy votes, he would at least copy them from a player he thinks is good. I think you are reading far too much into Palmar's "shit list". Palmar put people on the list because in his opinion they have said stupid things and therefore should not be listened to. As Palmar said, it is completely irrelevant to them being mafia or not. ShoCkey these two quotes are completely inconsistent. Like, your entire stance on GB and Palmar is baffling and needs to be clarified. You say that you have built suspicions against GB, but his guilt will only truly be confirmed once Palmar is confirmed as mafia. But then you say that maybe Palmar and Obi are mafia but GB is just a vocal townie. So what's the deal? On May 16 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote: /in Gonna try a different approach Maybe just by playing with them often has lead you to think they play a certain way? As I mentioned before, I haven't played in over five years, I don't know any of you here or how your playstyle is. I'm just also trying to learn for myself. By Palmar instantly throwing his vote where ever GB goes, maybe that's a different route. Remember that the motive is for Mafia to win the game, if GB is the leader he can easily tell palmar and obi to go after who he thinks is necessary. Would people believe it? Of course not because that's not their "style". On May 19 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: So you really need to walk me through this shockey and why you can't do anything when obi and Palmar are still alive. It doesn't make sense to me Because by being the least vocal and least responsive in terms of the allegations towards them, it makes GB look like he's in it for the town. With out either or, the town can start seeing what is going on here. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 07:43 GlowingBear wrote: You have to think how mafia would act. Do you think mafia would act aggressively, having a vocal player choosing a target early on and having ALL HIS TEAM locking in the target? Or do you think mafia would let town try to ruin themselves and instigate confusion? I find myself more likely to be completely disconnected from the game, having my own reads and tunneling, or completely instigating wrong reads instead of leading them. I would never hard align with my team mates on early day1. I am thinking how mafia would act. I'm thinking of a new approach on how a fast alignment can win this small mafia game and kill out the real townees faster than they can lynch off real mafia members. The alignment is what is confusing people they don't know if it's real or not. The vocal townee can just be an act, who knows? | ||
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I think Palmar or Obi are mafia. If Palmar flips mafia, GB is mafia and Obi is just bandwagoning. If Obi flips mafia, then Palmar is mafia, GB is town. That is my current thought process. | ||
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On May 19 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote: That's nonsensical though, that's like saying if I flip mafia scib is mafia because we are thread bros. How is it nonsensical when all their posts line up to them being on a team? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On May 19 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote: Pre flip associations are really bad, if any of them are scum it wont' be because there postings line up or one is sheeping the other. For another you are completely ignoring the reasons why GB is town. The level of mafia play is really high now adays sometimes you get a really bad team, but distancing from yoru team mates is extremely encouraged at points, so that you can't do associative reads. Like honestly theres nothing in there postings that directly point to them being on a team besides them being close together on voting. What is it about his posts that make you think he's not mafia and/or associated with Palmar? This still doesn't change my vote from Palmar. I just find it suspicious that he hasn't been around, throw his vote based on GB's with out having much to say in regards. Obviously he mentioned he'll follow GB's post afterwards, at least Shining who apparently is heading to ER has time to post. | ||
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