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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 17 2015 18:44 GMT
#35
/in

complete newbie here, enthusiastic about the game though. Played some werewolf (same as mafia, expect other role names) in reality and played often the sc2 mafia arcade map
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 11:25:49
May 18 2015 11:25 GMT
#51
On May 18 2015 09:10 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 03:44 boxerfred wrote:
/in

complete newbie here, enthusiastic about the game though. Played some werewolf (same as mafia, expect other role names) in reality and played often the sc2 mafia arcade map

Welcome, your reputation precedes you. Forum mafia is high volume reading and posting compared to RL mafia/werewolf or the SC2 arcade version and is thus a fairly demanding game. Highly recommend that you read through a couple, say, recent newbie games If you haven't already done so, to get a sense of what it's like. Definitely read the guides, and go over the OP/rules carefully. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.


I didn't realize that I have a reputation now. However, is that a good or a bad thing? I was hoping to stay among the anonymous, shady people that are all over the internet. However, I feel like I read myself already through huge walls of text and am still not understanding everything. I'm glad that we have some time to go before the game is filled up so I can actually read more and try to ask some questions.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 19 2015 11:30 GMT
#68
can't wait for it to start
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 19 2015 12:42 GMT
#73
##WatchWarmly
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 21 2015 07:30 GMT
#115
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 08:30 GMT
#278
On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool

While I understand that, I always thought yolo'ing votes on the first day is a stupid thing to do :/
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 08:32 GMT
#281
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker

That'd be sick luck if you actually got a scum guy pinned down with that vote

notice the pun d'oh
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:07 GMT
#291
On May 22 2015 17:12 Rels wrote:
As for know I will vote for the AFK until he post something. Then I'll vote for the people I don't like, I'll probably sheep Sulfurus unless he vote someone I don't agree with.

##Vote: boxerfred

Well I'm AFK since I am on an EU schedule. However since I dislike people that vote for me, I'm willing to vote for them. However, I feel like voting randomly / for no reason rather means that someone wants to make a destructive impact to the game which strongly speaks for them being an evildoer. Thus I'd strongly recommend Rels to be checked upon.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:10 GMT
#292
I meant timezone, not schedule. Day one votes suck there's like no indication about anything. Since I still have to cast my vote though I'll re-read the posts and see if I can find something indicating something. Thus far, I can't tell the difference from someone being trolling and someone casting a vote in a serious manner.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:17 GMT
#294
I have no idea who I should vote for :/
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:32 GMT
#298
Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. However, thus far I think I'll go for the guy who voted 27ninjabunnies (which would be BM) since he did not really have a clue and just started with an accusation. That kinda points to the SK role or even a scum role. Can't really tell. However, since Breshke and batsnacks, as well as BM and tictock cast their votes for the same person, they might be somehow linked to each other in their roles, implying they are either scum or masons.

Since a mason wouldn't have to cast his vote in a seemingly random/trolly kind of way, I'm going for Bill Murray. Especially since he is no newbie, so I can safely assume he didn't troll but instead made a random vote on purpose.

So here we go: ##Vote Bill Murray
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:34 GMT
#299
On May 22 2015 19:28 Rels wrote:
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On May 22 2015 19:07 boxerfred wrote:
On May 22 2015 17:12 Rels wrote:
As for know I will vote for the AFK until he post something. Then I'll vote for the people I don't like, I'll probably sheep Sulfurus unless he vote someone I don't agree with.

##Vote: boxerfred

Well I'm AFK since I am on an EU schedule. However since I dislike people that vote for me, I'm willing to vote for them. However, I feel like voting randomly / for no reason rather means that someone wants to make a destructive impact to the game which strongly speaks for them being an evildoer. Thus I'd strongly recommend Rels to be checked upon.


You seem pretty defensive for what was just a policy vote until you posted something.

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On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote:
I have no idea who I should vote for :/


What is your most scum read atm ?

Yeah I hate being voted out in first rounds because it just ruins the game for me. I'm a bad loser.

My most scum read is Bill Murray but it's more indications than bullet proof theories.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:36 GMT
#300
Oh wow I totally ignored that Bill Murray has two votes already, those guys could be masons or scum, too. Impying that if I cast my vote on BM, that could potentially mean that I am scum, too :D. My argumentation is not the best obviously. However, I'll stick with it until I get a stronger clue.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:38 GMT
#301
Hmm.. lots of indicators, nothing too special. Then again we have Rels, discussing quite actively about who to set up for a lynch - to me, that indicates that he's townie since he's being rational and trying to argue in a very rational way. That could mean that Rels and Sulfurus are the two masons, further strengthening that BM might be scum.

Assumptions, assumptions..
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 10:44 GMT
#303
However, there are still the silent people in here. That's like the worst strategy ever in terms of "making gameplay exciting". The swarmhost/turtle of Mafia :D
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 12:11 GMT
#309
On May 22 2015 19:57 Rels wrote:
I suppose the only players here are boxerfred and Barakos.

So a question for the both of you: could you read sickluker filter and tell me what you think ?

tbh I have no idea about how he's scum or town after reading his filter. didn't understand the qt pregame stuff (yet, didn't have time to dive in deep). Looks kinda random however.

He's really going hardcore down the "I'm a townie" road, making himself the prime target for Cop and Scum, depending on his actual role (if he's really a townie, scum will attack him, however, the cop might check him just to make sure. that would imply ofc that he is not the cop :D).

Hm. I wouldn't say that his posts necessarily point to scum direction. I have a feeling (not proven though) that he might have gotten an unimportant town role without any night actions. Some people tend to spam and troll if they get a role that does not have any "cool" night-action purpose and since he has that reputation, I'd go with that thought.

Wouldn't cast my vote to lynch him yet.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 13:23 GMT
#321
On May 22 2015 21:37 Tictock wrote:
Alright I'm up and back at it again.

Rels looks pretty town. I like that he is keeping some pressure on SL and that he picked up on my strongest scum read on SL.

So far I'm not sure I like boxerfred. He's definitely giving off that newbie vibe but I really don't like how he is going about his reads atm.

I mean he starts off giving us 2 posts about how he doesn't know what to take seriously and that he doesn't know who to vote for. Then this pile of WIFOM leads him to a vote?
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On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote:
Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. However, thus far I think I'll go for the guy who voted 27ninjabunnies (which would be BM) since he did not really have a clue and just started with an accusation. That kinda points to the SK role or even a scum role. Can't really tell. However, since Breshke and batsnacks, as well as BM and tictock cast their votes for the same person, they might be somehow linked to each other in their roles, implying they are either scum or masons.

Since a mason wouldn't have to cast his vote in a seemingly random/trolly kind of way, I'm going for Bill Murray. Especially since he is no newbie, so I can safely assume he didn't troll but instead made a random vote on purpose.

So here we go: ##Vote Bill Murray


@BF Your looking too hard for associations and possible role tells before we have any solid (such as flip) info. Based on post content alone, and not possible interactions, who would you read as scum?


"WIFOM"? However, keep in mind that voting is mandatory and I cannot abstain. Thus far, I'd rather abstain than cast my vote on anyone.


Judging from post content alone, I'd say that there are no logical mistakes nor something similar that strongly point to someone posting as a scum member. Thus far, most posts seem to be baits and/or defensive stances about how one is not scum. I'd say that SL is someone who at least tries to persuade people that he's town in a very tryhard way. Can't judge on that as long as he doesn't do stupid things (eg vote aggressively on people without having a clue or argumentation).

Reading about "trying to pocket", Rels has been rather "nice" towards me and my posts which could mean that he's trying to pocket me. His vote (that I mentioned in my theory towards masons/scum) might fit in that window.

However, given the content of Rels' posts I'd read him as a townie. Let me come back to this thread in a while (work..) and try to reiterate about my opinion towards BM. Maybe I'll change it once I set some posts in conjuction to each other.


boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 13:27 GMT
#325
On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote:
Okay. bunnies time.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:

Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker

Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo.

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On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia?
I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on.

Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either.

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On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again


I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today.

I see a bus in the midst.

From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"?

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On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far?

I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this.

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On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Give me substance BM! I know you can do it!

I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily.

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On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like.

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On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts


I agree

What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason


This is a great question!


+ Show Spoiler +
And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler +

When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like.


In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now.

I just read this but, as said above, gotta continue working. I'll ##unvote and read about this later. Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 14:13 GMT
#351
On May 22 2015 23:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote:
Ok BF, I'm more sold that you are just new now.

I have the opposite view actually. Before you started pressuring him, I was sure he was a newbie. Now that you made him post more I'm not so sure ... I will quote everytime he said he was newb or something like that in his filter. Everything in the spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote:
I have no idea who I should vote for :/

On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote:
Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that.
[...]

On May 22 2015 22:23 boxerfred wrote:
"WIFOM"?
[...]
Reading about "trying to pocket",
[...]

On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote:
[...]
Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context.




That's 5 times for 13 posts.


I even said pre-game that I am somewhat used to mafia games, just not the TL forum version, so you're not finding any secrets there.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 22 2015 14:24 GMT
#357
On May 22 2015 23:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
[...]
I do want to see BF's response to why he suddenly switch his vote.

So the way I'm looking at it in my head is this:

BF as newb mafia votes on BM just to be voting on someone...tlaks a bit, doesnt really push on BM, then mafia partner comes out with a case on me (town), and BF is like, ooo this looks good. Lets unvote, and go with mafia partner here.
[...]


On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote:
I just read this but, as said above, gotta continue working. I'll ##unvote and read about this later. Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context.


I think that it's pretty clear that I unvoted BM because disinformation's points appeared way stronger to me than my own thoughts about BM. I did not instavote on you although you imply that in my words - I simply unvoted to, as I said, rethink my vote. Your argument of me jumping disinformation's "blametrain" on your person is simply untrue. Why are you pressuring me?
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