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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 14:29 GMT
#1179
Hello.

I haven't read any of the game yet, just enough to know that there was a mislynch on Day 1 and then Holyflare was night killed.

Do I need to start doing things immediately, or can I take the time to read the thread (or at least part of it)?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 14:54 GMT
#1182
On April 13 2015 23:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 23:29 Trfel wrote:
Hello.

I haven't read any of the game yet, just enough to know that there was a mislynch on Day 1 and then Holyflare was night killed.

Do I need to start doing things immediately, or can I take the time to read the thread (or at least part of it)?


lol o.0 what a strange question truffle

how do you expect to do things if you don't read the thread? -shoos- come back when you have something case-builder xP
Well, I've missed playing mafia, so I'm going to do things anyway, because it's fun.

Given the pregame (as of page 2), I would be less inclined to lynch plotspot. Though it's a bit late for that.
On April 13 2015 23:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Welcome Trfel. Town are on track for an ML D2.

I'm taking the approach of evaluating each of the main wagons D1 with the working theory there are 2 scum on the plot wagon and one on the Stutters counter wagon.

I evaluated the Stutters counterwagon last night with Tube and possibly Dwarf being suspect.

I have Rasputin/others wanting to lynch me for faulty logic (namely my changing votes on Stutters 2m before EoD) without considering the possibly that 1) I can't consider all possibility simultaneously and 2) it being completely unreasonable to expect a detailed case with the scant amount of time left. I've explained it enough, so I'm filter diving the people on the plot wagon atm.
I don't agree with this method of scum catching by saying how many scum are on each wagon, however I'm not at the level where I can definitively say that it is wrong. And I don't think that it is alignment indicative.

A few questions about the game:

What is the posting style of the game? Is it more conversational (aka "spammy", though I feel the two are significantly different), or is it a more slow, content-dense game?
Is there enough information to work with, or does town need more posting?
Any claims yet?
Does town have capable and currently active leadership?

Thanks!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:12 GMT
#1188
The game seems to have a fair amount of discussion. I suppose that leaves no other way to get these players to post than to try and lynch them. But I hate lynching for activity.

Oh well, I guess there is no shortcut to reading the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:23 GMT
#1190
Oh, voting is in this thread? That's really nice. LoneMeow quickly rising on my list of favorite hosts. Thanks!

Anyway, I finally made it to the start of Day 1, so I can (hopefully) provide actual reads soon.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:29 GMT
#1192
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:38 GMT
#1194
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy
Well, because I'm the last one in the game.

But I'm getting happier because this metaread on Half the Sky seems to be reliable so far.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 15:44 GMT
#1195
On April 14 2015 00:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy
Well, because I'm the last one in the game.

But I'm getting happier because this metaread on Half the Sky seems to be reliable so far.
Eh, never mind, it's not a very good read. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Back to reading the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:14 GMT
#1201
Onegu

Onegu's opening is just terrible. I'm pretty sure that he is scum here. Plotspot was obviously a new player trying to figure out how to play the game, if anything I would read plotspot's opening posts as slightly towny. And Onegu was so quick to jump on scumreading him.

I'd definitely prefer to lynch Onegu than this weird lynch on Half the Sky for just changing her vote.

One scum down, two to go.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:23 GMT
#1204
You probably shouldn't mention coaching in this thread, as doing so is against the rules.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:31 GMT
#1209
On April 14 2015 01:28 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:14 Trfel wrote:
Onegu

Onegu's opening is just terrible. I'm pretty sure that he is scum here. Plotspot was obviously a new player trying to figure out how to play the game, if anything I would read plotspot's opening posts as slightly towny. And Onegu was so quick to jump on scumreading him.

I'd definitely prefer to lynch Onegu than this weird lynch on Half the Sky for just changing her vote.

One scum down, two to go.


Ok I'm back in thread.

Bro am I high or did you just claim scum??

Didn't you replace Onegu? O_O
Hi again, The Shining. I know you really don't like replacements, and I apologize for this. I'll do my best to make it a non-issue.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:32 GMT
#1211
On April 14 2015 01:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:07 rsoultin wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


what do you think of my case

About Half the Sky?

also lol if stutters dropped dead this second from a rare and crazy day 1 cancer bug who would you want to lynch?

But I hate how there is replacements coming in. Holyflare didnt play long but how could you have readed him? Are those posts by Soren anymore valid? Same with Trfel. If they/one of them is mafia they like got 1 day and night advance where nobody can read them.

Damn, I forgot The Shining
You can always read replacements based on the play of the player they replaced for, as they have the same role...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:33 GMT
#1213
On April 14 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote:
or the truth made to look like a joke o.0

-eyes truffle-

more seriously, y'all both owe me reads xP -cracks whip-
If I owe you anything, it's a vote
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:36 GMT
#1215
On April 14 2015 01:35 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:32 Trfel wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:07 rsoultin wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 14 2015 00:29 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I might have a cool way to read Half the Sky. But if she really is scum here, maybe I should just not reveal it until next game

I'd better check my meta first, though.

On an unrelated note:
On April 10 2015 06:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Hey, im not at least the last one
I'm sad now

Why you are sad
Im happy


what do you think of my case

About Half the Sky?

also lol if stutters dropped dead this second from a rare and crazy day 1 cancer bug who would you want to lynch?

But I hate how there is replacements coming in. Holyflare didnt play long but how could you have readed him? Are those posts by Soren anymore valid? Same with Trfel. If they/one of them is mafia they like got 1 day and night advance where nobody can read them.

Damn, I forgot The Shining
You can always read replacements based on the play of the player they replaced for, as they have the same role...

But how do you know if they play same? I know that if somebody replaced me, they would act alot different.
Of course. But that doesn't change anything?

Read Onegu based on how you would expect Onegu to play, and what his style is. Read me based on how you would expect me to play, and what my style is. Then combine those two reads to reach your conclusion.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:41 GMT
#1217
Well, so far, I'm townreading all of the dead people, and I'm townreading Onegu......

I know, I'm so helpful. And it also appears that I have no ability whatsoever to read people fairly when I already know their alignment. Was hoping that would have changed....
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:49 GMT
#1218
Perhaps TheBloodyDwarf would be a good lynch after all.

I need to get some lunch. Have fun.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 16:58 GMT
#1221
On April 14 2015 01:52 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:14 Trfel wrote:
Onegu

Onegu's opening is just terrible. I'm pretty sure that he is scum here. Plotspot was obviously a new player trying to figure out how to play the game, if anything I would read plotspot's opening posts as slightly towny. And Onegu was so quick to jump on scumreading him.

I'd definitely prefer to lynch Onegu than this weird lynch on Half the Sky for just changing her vote.

One scum down, two to go.



Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:41 Trfel wrote:
Well, so far, I'm townreading all of the dead people, and I'm townreading Onegu......

I know, I'm so helpful. And it also appears that I have no ability whatsoever to read people fairly when I already know their alignment. Was hoping that would have changed....


What changed in 27 minutes?
How serious I was feeling changed?

Anyway, apparently you've been missing in action. It seems that I'm drawing everyone back to the thread. And now I really must eat food, so I will be back later.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 17:00 GMT
#1222
Oh, I just saw Half the Sky's post. That's not good at all.

Please have mercy?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 20:00 GMT
#1235
On April 14 2015 04:59 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:58 Trfel wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:52 Stutters695 wrote:
On April 14 2015 01:14 Trfel wrote:
Onegu

Onegu's opening is just terrible. I'm pretty sure that he is scum here. Plotspot was obviously a new player trying to figure out how to play the game, if anything I would read plotspot's opening posts as slightly towny. And Onegu was so quick to jump on scumreading him.

I'd definitely prefer to lynch Onegu than this weird lynch on Half the Sky for just changing her vote.

One scum down, two to go.



On April 14 2015 01:41 Trfel wrote:
Well, so far, I'm townreading all of the dead people, and I'm townreading Onegu......

I know, I'm so helpful. And it also appears that I have no ability whatsoever to read people fairly when I already know their alignment. Was hoping that would have changed....


What changed in 27 minutes?
How serious I was feeling changed?

Anyway, apparently you've been missing in action. It seems that I'm drawing everyone back to the thread. And now I really must eat food, so I will be back later.


Bump. Still want an answer.
I like how you ask for an answer while quoting my answer.

Sometimes I am serious. Other times I am constantly joking.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 20:05 GMT
#1237
On April 14 2015 05:03 Stutters695 wrote:
I would disagree with that being an answer.

Anyways, until I think of a better way to word that what do you think about prpl?
As of page 14, he's the most obvious town in the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 13 2015 20:25 GMT
#1240
On April 14 2015 05:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:09 Tubesock wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:03 Stutters695 wrote:
I would disagree with that being an answer.

Anyways, until I think of a better way to word that what do you think about prpl?


Are you being serious about asking Trfel why he changed his "scum read" on his slot he replaced into?

I'm missing something.

Reactions dawg. Just want to see what he'd say. Honestly, I've seen people make similar mistakes replacing in (I almost wrote a case on myself in WLIIA way back in the day after replacing in).

Trfel: pg14 was basically a decade ago, do you disagree with my assessment? What do you make of HtS's case on you?
I disagree with your assessment that page 14 was basically a decade ago. And I disagree with your scumread of prplhz. When I read his play, even from page 16, he is one of the two most influential players in the game (along with Soren333). He's constantly pushing things, not just asking questions. You claim he isn't doing anything, I disagree.

Half the Sky's case is on Onegu, not me. I don't really care about it. I have two options: ignore it, or spam the thread yelling about something I don't really know about (which is extremely detrimental to town). If I feel that it would be beneficial to town for me to defend Onegu's play, I can and will do so, but now is definitely not the time for that.
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