XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+)

On March 16 2015 13:12 Eden1892 wrote:
Lmao

I don't even know what that makes FF now. I had Damdred strong town so I should prolly stick with that

On March 12 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred is 100% mafia

1) Townread me early without any of his usual town paranoia (see Student VI for an example of this, the guy was skeptical of my alignment until I flipped even in obs chat)
2) Townread me for my big reads post that he said he "liked a lot"
3) As soon as Koshi says he doesn't like me anymore he decides I'm mafia and wow how did he miss all this?
4) He doesn't bother to interact with me to get my reasoning on anything, he just says now it's mafia instead of talking TO ME about why he doesn't like my reads
5) Bad-faith bullshit like "you're ignoring the thread to make people look bad" which just isn't true

Lynch this guy

On March 13 2015 09:39 Eden1892 wrote:
fuck it i'm going back to the guy i have a case for

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Damdred

reasons:
(1) lack of town paranoia early
(2) going from calling me very town for my reads post d1 to sudden flip onto me right as thread sentiment moved against me
(3) only one truly good analytical post the whole game which was a VCA that strongly incriminated him anyway
(4) general lack of digging compared to my expectations for town!Damdred. like does anybody see this guy solving the game right now or trying? or trying to do so tonight? go look at his filter in Student Mafia VI, the difference is clear to me. so many more observations and questions than in this game

On March 13 2015 12:14 Eden1892 wrote:

probably people either calling me town and discussing other things, or actually making a point i can respond to against me, would be great. i'm just mad because palmar isn't trying to solve the game and keeps calling me mafia for literally 0 reason, and damdred has been dancing around calling me mafia all game, bringing up reasons why he thinks i'm suspicious but never actually directly engaging me about the things he finds weird.

like the jat thing for instance, notice he never actually asks me anything about my thought process to understand the things i'm doing that he says are weird. he says it's weird that i pushed ritoky when i was scumreading jat, but he never asks me why i did that. when i did him the courtesy of explaining it anyway, he just calls it inconsistent without explanation and then doesn't ask me about any of the steps i took in my thought process

he did this with the reads post i keep talking about as well. he asked me for reads, i gave a big reads post, he says it's a townie post. he doesn't challenge it or contest any bit of it or even ask any further questions about it, he just says it's townie and drops it. then the next morning he suddenly decides it's suspicious because of XYZ things but he again never asks me about those things directly.

^^this is why damdred is probably mafia btw, i didn't mean for that to turn into a case but here we are

vote damdred

##VOTE: Damdred

On March 13 2015 13:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Speaking of, I went back and read it. Here's the recap:

• raynpelikoneet, prplhz, LightningStrike, Koshi confirmed/virtually-confirmed town
  
• rsoultin, Eden, Palmar second-tier town (Eden most suspicious among them)
  
• Onegu, ritoky, marvellosity are where the last 2 mafia are
  

He says he'd like to kill me but he can't really justify it because he thinks I would have bused JAT. Says he's in "a weird spot" because he had townreads on ritoky and marv.

Then what does he do after this admittedly pretty good post?

• Calls my interaction with JAT "weird." Asks no questions to discern whether it was town or mafia.
  
• Reaffirms his townread on ritoky.
  
• Argues with ray a bit about rsoultin, taking the stance that she was thinking about the game and implications about in-game events, which is townie.
  
• Acknowledges that he would be a good vig shot and that he hasn't played well.
  
• Affirms again that he thinks rsoultin is town.
  
• Asks marv for his scumreads. Questioning ultimately doesn't go anywhere, Damdred decides marv is town though.
  
• Says that Onegu or I would be Palmar's or marv's partner were one to flip scum. I post a big reads list right afterward, Damdred proceeds never to ask me anything about it or engage it at all.
  
• Flip-flops on rsoultin without explanation, now saying he thinks one of us is mafia. This is after he called us both probably town in his big reads list and with no interaction with either of us, nor indeed any substantial discussion of either of us at all.
  
• Argues a little more with ray.
  
• Says at EON that rsoultin and I were weird and needed to be pressured. Odd how he never actually takes the initiative to do this himself, isn't it?
  

Not bothering to finish this but the gist of the rest is that he talks a bit with ritoky once ritoky starts to play, he briefly does setup spec that isn't alignment-indicative and then he gets into it with me, entirely of my initiative mind.

You'll notice the following things are absent from the list:
[1] Doing anything to figure out Onegu.
[2] Doing anything to pressure his other scum suspects, instead just ignoring his VCA and deciding to townread them anyway.
[3] Doing anything to pressure the people he decides are probably mafia instead (rsoultin and me). Also, giving any explanation as to why he decided to throw away the point about JAT townreading rsoultin and me.

So Damdred, where's the pressure on me? You said I needed to be pressured because my play was weird. Why haven't you made a single bit of effort to take the initiative in questioning me? If I'm the bad guy and you're town then why am I the one constantly having to take the fight to you?

On March 16 2015 13:36 Onegu wrote:
People you should read first as they are today's wagons:

Palmar
Prplhz
Rayn (I am the Rayn wisperer and he's town)

Then:

Eden
Myself
Marv

Koshi is basicly confirmed town atm.

On March 15 2015 12:01 Eden1892 wrote:

nah we (finally) on the same page (i think?) now bro

On March 16 2015 05:15 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred is definitely town wtf guys. His check on rsoultin makes perfect sense given the thread direction at EON + his prior feeling that our interactions were weird. Trust me I've read his filter 50 times trying to prove he's mafia and this is all 100% consistent with his check.

Palmar should be the lynch tomorrow 100%. He says he's bringing his game face tomorrow, I guarantee you he won't actually deliver this until we put him on the block. Tomorrow he goes on the block.

I still have this nagging feeling about marv but he should not be the lynch until d4 as of now. Also have nagging feeling about ray. ray's attempts to go after me and Damdred related to blues is bleeding red to me because it looks pretty obvious that he's trying too hard to look like he isn't completely informed of the game state. If Palmar bleeds town then lynch ray

Do not ever lynch the current blue claims, probably never lynch prplhz or Onegu. I hate Onegu's VT thing but I don't think he's cashing it in and retiring it here. prplhz just doesn't make sense as JAT's partner and he's been productive.

TL;DR im damdreds the cop u idiots, never lynch the blue claims as of this post (Koshi/LS/Damdred), probably never lynch Onegu and prplhz or at least have really good reasons, lynch Palmar -> ray -> marv.

GL BOYS ILL TRY 2 KEEP UP @ WORK

On March 16 2015 13:12 Eden1892 wrote:
Lmao

I don't even know what that makes FF now. I had Damdred strong town so I should prolly stick with that

On March 13 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:
Ok I have skimmed everything. The way Eden reacted to Palmars claim was really weird. Then the way he reacted to LS making his blue claim was really weird. I also don't really see Damdred as scum here. His case on Damdred isn't very strong its basicly Damdred isnt solving the game.

Eden is shoveling shit on everyone. He has in just day two gone with as mafia:

Palmar
Rayn
Me
Ritoky
Damdred
LS

That's over half the player list. He isn't trying to figure the game out just yelling whenever something comes up. I know he changes his reads often, but this game he doesn't change his reads he just drops them to pick them up later, there is a big difference.

##Vote: Eden1892

On March 13 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote:




Boy bye