EPTI'm liking a Palmar lynch right now.
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I'm liking a Palmar lynch right now. | ||
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On March 02 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote: !!!Lol, that's a different way to read Onegu's post xP May want to try again. More seriously, I don't think I'd be trying to lynch any of the players right now :/ Maybe Truffle for lawlz. Yeah, Truffle for lawlz ^^ (whimpers on the floor, begging for mercy) I agree with Damdred, Snickers feels most suspicious thus far. On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote: Reasoning is because there is almost no town incentive to ask for a lynch on a player who is physically incapable of posting. Especially this early into Day 1. While I can see it as a joke, I'm a bit suspicious.Why are we not lynching kelsier. Also ff knows about this. I don't think that Palmar's opening is much more likely to come from mafia than town, but he still deserves a small hill to climb for it. And I am a tad surprised at someone complaining about nonsense three posts into the thread, while I actually found ritoky's posting to be (only slightly) more useful than the nonsense posting in the earlier game. | ||
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On March 02 2015 11:47 ritoky wrote: I don't find his statements particularly alignment indicative? Probably slightly more likely to be scum than town, but not that significant.Firstly, I think the bolded is a double negative so I have no idea what you're trying to say; it seems to me like you think he is more town now? If so, how did you get from here: to where you are now with 0 posts from palmar in between? Also, what the hell is a hill to climb? I like a Palmar lynch right now not because I think he is scum, but because he deserves it. Hence the "hill to climb", ie forcing a little bit of effort to make up for giving him a pass for his scum claim. And it's fun to do. But he'd probably burn me alive if I voted for him while not calling him scum, and I'm not really eager to get wagoned on Day 1 after my experience last game. | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:23 Snickers wrote: That's exactly what I'm wondering about you.How does a townie act like this...... I am confused. How does a scum act like this... I'm about halfway through the thread, feel free to ask questions, I'll get through eventually. | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:31 Snickers wrote: No, the question has a very good point behind it. Please answer it.How about you give me an example answer that is an alignment tell because I am prty sure its a shitty question. Omg snickers you are not anwsering every question thrown at you no matter the purpose or thought behind it. Scum! | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:33 Snickers wrote: I'm not trying to look townie. I'm asking a question because I want to know the answer. I could be scum and trying to look useful, that is a possibility.How about stop trying to look townie by interjecting yourself. But I want you to answer the question because I have reasons for asking, and the answer would be useful. I cannot explain this to you now, because that ruins the point of making you answer. | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:41 Snickers wrote: What? I've made maybe three posts in the last while, and they have all had the same point of asking you to answer a simple question.Why are you not saying what you just said a little bit ago. Since you aren't going to answer, fine, I'll back off. I'm just having a lot of trouble understanding your behavior. | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:44 Snickers wrote: Like I am clueless how the hell people worry about that post lol. So it doesnt tell me anything. On March 02 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote: Mafia wants to survive, town doesn't. While town sometimes needs to lynch inactives, it's just a guess at whether or not they are scum. Especially at the start of the day, pushing for a lynch on a banned player is one of the very worst things for town, as you can't even pressure them back into the thread. The mafia motivation for doing so is to survive (presuming that the banned player is in fact town) and to appear to do something, and this is much more convincing than the town motivation.I agree with Damdred, Snickers feels most suspicious thus far.Reasoning is because there is almost no town incentive to ask for a lynch on a player who is physically incapable of posting. Especially this early into Day 1. While I can see it as a joke, I'm a bit suspicious. You said it wasn't a joke. Do you have any explanation for this? | ||
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On March 03 2015 12:52 Snickers wrote: Surviving by pushing a mislynch isn't surviving. That just pushes town closer to losing the game.Yea but I have to break a minor rule to explain myself. (if you are catching my drift) And I am prty sure town wants to survive too. But why are people wasting posts on this lol. I have said several insights that everyone ignores. I have been far busier than I expected, which means that I have a very large number of posts still to use. If you would like to stop talking about this, I understand. I won't press you any further. | ||
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And I don't really feel like looking through past games to find it, maybe I'll do that tomorrow, but not today. | ||
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On March 03 2015 13:20 Snickers wrote: And I'm supposed to trust what you say about your own meta?Lol I posted my meta in the fucking thread but it seems like people dont feel like reading. My meta is that I'm town, every game. That means I'm town this game. I always tell the truth, because I'm always town, so that means I'm town. | ||
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On March 03 2015 13:23 Snickers wrote: I'm going to ignore you for a while, I can't stand you at all.I posted the only game I have ever been scum. Dont be silly. But I will tell you something I dont do as either alignment. Shit up the thread and assume a ton of shit. Who is doing that this game? I don't know if this is scum or bad play, but it's very frustrating. | ||
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On March 03 2015 05:03 Snickers wrote: Can you please explain this post?Rsoultin is town | ||
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I'm actually leaning town on Palmar. It's hard for me to explain why, but in addition to providing some (extremely interesting) dialogue, he also provided some reasonable reads. At any rate, I don't want to lynch Palmar today. Rsoultin is probably town. I find it a bit suspicious how she dismissed her initial post on Palmar (which to me seemed to be a light scum read), and how she complained multiple times about the thread being nonsense (while I found it much more readable than last game, though since then it has gotten worse). Still, her filter seems townie overall. Prphlz has been rather defensive of his own play, and seems to be focusing more on explaining why he isn't doing much than finding scum. Looks suspicious to me. I agree that Alakaslam's filter is boring, and that that is probably a reasonable way to read him. However, I am a bit concerned that it is too early in the game to read him in this way? Still, he isn't a bad lynch. Then we have Snickers. Most of his posts are useless spam, many of his posts convey motives that are bad for town. The hypocrisy, lack of original reads/reasoning, and he keeps promising reads/insights but not providing them. And he has shown several times that he isn't reading the thread very carefully. I don't like it at all, and currently I feel that Snickers is the best lynch. Of course, the other thing that must be mentioned about Snickers is that Robik says he is a power role. I don't understand this at all. But Snickers looks scummy, and I want to lynch him. Additional explanations will follow. ##vote Snickers Is that enough of an apology? | ||
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On March 03 2015 14:19 rsoultin wrote: Why are you so confident that Alakaslam is scum? I still am not sure if he has had enough time to allow us to read him by amount of original direction.TRUFFLE VOTE SLAM WITH ME IF YOU'RE TOWN if not, please carry on and be dumb xP snickers obviously isn't the best lynch today If I recall correctly, you weren't convinced that Alakaslam was scum last game, despite a somewhat similar lack of original direction to what he has shown in this game. Why the scumread this game and not so much last game, while this game is not as far along? I agree that Alakaslam looks rather suspicious, and I wouldn't mind lynching him, but I feel that there is a better lynch out there. | ||
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On March 03 2015 14:29 rsoultin wrote: It just feels like really dangerous meta to me. I get the impression that Alakaslam's play varies based on available time, is this correct? (sort of like how Palmar plays sometimes, and at other times does absolutely nothing) If my impression is correct, you can understand how I'm not so eager to lynch Alakaslam right now. And a thread of unreadable mess feels like that would make Alakaslam less likely to post and care about it?Last game was my first true encounter with a scum Slam. He was scum in my first game on TL, but AFK'd due to IRL reasons after just a few posts... I am 100% positive that he's had enough time to be original and 100% positive that the poisonous way this game started out is precisely the environment he'd feel the need to be original in. This game more mirrors last game than my town games with him. And frankly, most of the other lynches being pushed are people I don't know how to read yet, cause let's face it...some people just read scummy. In addition, I don't see how I can be convinced that Alakaslam is mafia like you are, it seems to require more knowledge of his meta than I have available. And again, with a player like Alakaslam with such varying play, it feels like the meta would be more unreliable. | ||
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Snickers' reads seem to be made without original thought On March 02 2015 09:27 Snickers wrote: A policy lynch of the worst kind. It's not a pressure lynch in the slightest (at the time there was no replacement), it's right at the start of Day 1, and it avoids making any kind of actual read. Mafia wants to sit back and lynch inactives without providing actual reads, town wants to solve the game. Snickers also stood by this read (after the replacement), while continuously refusing to explain why he made this statement in the first place.Why are we not lynching kelsier. Also ff knows about this. On March 03 2015 05:59 Snickers wrote: This list post provides no explanation at all. His reads seem to scumread those who scumread him, townread those with larger thread presences, and mirror other players' reads. He has a "Post more" category, but people with terribly few posts (such as myself and Superbia) weren't in it. I don't get the impression that Snickers is providing original thought. I also note that he requests a full filter review from Damdred while not providing any explanation for his own reads. Hm.Town: Robik Rsoultin Superbia Slam Ritoky Post More: Onegu Oats Scum: Snickers Damdred prplhz Trefel Palmar: Palmar MM: Lynch him Snickers<chupazi<reason On March 03 2015 08:31 Snickers wrote: These posts show that Snickers just scumreads everyone who is suspicious of him. There is no explanation or thought to these comments.I was talking about the second part Snickers seems to be drawing attention to himself to compensate for not providing reads, and is concerned about how towny he appears On March 02 2015 12:48 Snickers wrote: Snickers said this after only providing the comment about lynching KelsierSC. He tried to draw attention to himself, as if his attempt to policy lynch an inactive was any more than that. I find it ironic that since then, when people have talked about this push, he has refused to answer the questions. I am being ignored.On March 03 2015 12:12 Snickers wrote: Because Snickers has been providing so much intense scum hunting.umm if you guys want a well deserved break/laugh from this intense scum hunting by all of us except three. Look at purple's filter and find what is really off with it. Snickers has also accused people of not reading the thread multiple times, and his argument with prphlz and me feels somewhat condescending. I get the impression that Snickers is trying to make himself seem superior to us and look better than us, while there is no town motivation to do so. On March 03 2015 14:03 Snickers wrote: So, Snickers isn't going to answer questions because that's a scum thing to do, and townies don't answer questions. Not for any reason other than trying to look townie.On March 03 2015 04:57 Snickers wrote: Resoltin make a list of every player, reads, and who you would lynch Scum answer questions all the time. Rsoultin tells me to take a hike which is the right townie response. I wasnt answer your question cause a.its shit b.towns dont answer every question So you guys can leave me alone now right. And stop pesting me. Calling me bm and shit. I showed you proof. And I answered the question lol after you guys shit a brick over it lol. Step yo game up. In conclusion, I feel that while much of Snickers' filter is not alignment indicative, he has avoided providing reads while doing his best to make it seem like he has. As a result, I find him very suspicious. Any thoughts are appreciated. | ||
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Palmar left an unexplained vote on prphlz which never made it to the voting thread, but says he will policy vote all unexplained votes. Or is the reason that prphlz placed an unexplained vote earlier in the game? I don't understand this game at all. | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:14 IAmRobik wrote: I'm not done, because I see no reason whatsoever to believe this.SNICKERS IS A FUCKING POWER ROLE. ARE YOU DONE? If it's something he breadcrumbed, I still don't see why that is a good reason to not lynch him. Scum can breadcrumb a role too, it's not a commitment of any strength. On March 04 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote: I think that Snickers is scum for reasons that are alignment indicative. Not answering a question is not alignment indicative. However, suggesting to lynch someone only because they are banned is. Constantly drawing attention to himself while not scumhunting is alignment indicative. Not answering a question because that is apparently a townie thing to do is alignment indicative.Your push on Snickers just isn't alignment indicative, Truffle. I can go point-by-point if you like but nothing I saw there makes Snickers scum. Refusing to answer a question, for instance. I tunneled on bats for being a contrary boob (and a couple other more valid reasons but lol still wrong) in my first game here. It doesn't make someone scum. Side note, it's not my birthday, I just chose my TL birthday randomly. Thanks for the birthday wishes anyway, though. | ||
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I see a player who is providing minimal reads and is acting very scummy. And I'm supposed to ignore this player indefinitely because someone else said so, whose alignment is by no means confirmed. | ||
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it's a gut read but I'm fine with it
