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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 15 2015 02:38 GMT
#27
intrigued by the complex

/in
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 06:06 GMT
#94
yay randomizer
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 19:14 GMT
#135
o.0

How normal is it in these games to try to create town strategies while not knowing who the mafia are? For instance, forcing people to pick certain roles?

Never played one of these before. My plan was just to treat it like a regular game with flavor
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 19:47 GMT
#148
Well, I'd picked 6, 13. So I should probably change that. Tbh I looked at the roles and don't really have a preferred one, per se, so if we want a big strategy I'm game with whatever. I'm not a top nk but usually am shot before the game ends, and I'm not an easy mislynch, if that helps.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 24 2015 20:42 GMT
#156
Okay, changing my numbers to 8, 13 to not conflict with Robik. I thought there was more time on the draft numbers, lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 01:56 GMT
#198
so I guess no massive plan of action after all...okies

rng yolo
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 02:43 GMT
#207
o.0

did you claim a role? I haven't been paying close attention like I should :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 02:45 GMT
#208
Hrum, unless you always pick the same numbers, I'm not sure how that would apply, slam. You didn't claim them in-thread.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 02:54 GMT
#212
On January 25 2015 11:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 23:35 Alakaslam wrote:
I sell cigarettes and lotto tickets

And some other stuff.

Thank heaven.

[image loading]

Their motto is Thank Heaven!

An American most likely is scum?

Or I am thupid and somehow can get last with number 7


Then yes >< it seems possible. I am the stupid one apparently, lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 03:00 GMT
#213
On January 25 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
not telling mine, though it does partially conflict with someone else's

if someone wanted to research my past pyp games it shouldn't be too hard to track down though


^ I'm not sure if he meant yours or obi's, since obi claimed 7 something or other, too, before switching, but yeah.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 03:34 GMT
#218
Lol you should probably look at your other buddy in the list to see who else picked 5 Oats.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 03:35 GMT
#219
On January 25 2015 00:03 Onegu wrote:
I picked my lucky number 5. And am ok to be assigned a role if we want to do that. Second number is a secret....


Yup.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 15:42 GMT
#315
On January 26 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
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On January 25 2015 23:53 The Milkman wrote:
I go bowling and this happens, Palmar firing up some additional engines to mass post. At least they are meaningful.
I disagree that VR and Colossus are Town roles. Colossus has no power over who is his second shot, VR packs too strong of a punch. I'd put VR at best on neutral ground, but Colossus with double shot + coward + massive is just no bueno.

It's weird that you haven't understood Warp Prism Palmar, what is more worrying is you (then) ignoring my role analysis. It is true I did not create plans, but at that time draft wasn't public and then I am not one of sandroba's or syllogism's kin to do things like that. I don't think Sentry is that 'Mafia', I think it's 2 Armor aura could be used to great extent. Although rightly so somebody can just stick to the RB and shout obscenities. Anyway, I want Palmar to get WP, Obi picking Colossus on 3rd would be imho a waste if he is Town, which he kind-of-seems-like, because of the carelessness of his behaviour, but I'll have to think a little more about that, having quite hectic days.
Anyway, I am down on the list so I'll probably get a Probe, but that's fine with me. I think my icon is still a Probe.


I didn't read warp prism, I have now. It is a strong role and I'm taking it.

The roleblock just messes with us. If mafia doesn't get KP roles the sentry is useless.

You're missing the point on colossus. It's a double "lynch" for town and he has perfect control over who he shoots, the only condition is that those two have to be right next to each other. The reason I like Colossus over the other vigis for town is that:

a) it cannot be roleblocked, so no shenanigans.
b) it doesn't have the warp ability which is incredibly mafia favored (taking control away from townies). We WILL policy lynch anyone who at any point in the game uses a warp ability.
c) it is two KP that can be aimed into the playerlist and controlled, so it is much harder to "fake" than other KP roles.

It's basically a brilliant ability to give us more KP. Basically we'll find a scummy player and shoot him and pick whoever of his neighbours is more scummy than the other. It might even be very useful for discussion.


Okay...so I get that it can't be, what's the word, easily faked. Kinda. Assuming that you don't have 2 kp available in scum and they hit people side-by-side for the wifom and lols watching town flip shit over it, (I haven't double-checked to be certain there are no other roles with splash effect type kp, but I seem to remember reading that in there somewhere). The next question is how useful is a vigi shot to town that isn't targeted?

You're assuming town gets lucky enough to have a scummy next to a scum where getting rid of both actually is a good play. I mean, it happens, but I dunnae how likely that is.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 15:55 GMT
#317
On January 26 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote:
On January 26 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 23:53 The Milkman wrote:
I go bowling and this happens, Palmar firing up some additional engines to mass post. At least they are meaningful.
I disagree that VR and Colossus are Town roles. Colossus has no power over who is his second shot, VR packs too strong of a punch. I'd put VR at best on neutral ground, but Colossus with double shot + coward + massive is just no bueno.

It's weird that you haven't understood Warp Prism Palmar, what is more worrying is you (then) ignoring my role analysis. It is true I did not create plans, but at that time draft wasn't public and then I am not one of sandroba's or syllogism's kin to do things like that. I don't think Sentry is that 'Mafia', I think it's 2 Armor aura could be used to great extent. Although rightly so somebody can just stick to the RB and shout obscenities. Anyway, I want Palmar to get WP, Obi picking Colossus on 3rd would be imho a waste if he is Town, which he kind-of-seems-like, because of the carelessness of his behaviour, but I'll have to think a little more about that, having quite hectic days.
Anyway, I am down on the list so I'll probably get a Probe, but that's fine with me. I think my icon is still a Probe.


I didn't read warp prism, I have now. It is a strong role and I'm taking it.

The roleblock just messes with us. If mafia doesn't get KP roles the sentry is useless.

You're missing the point on colossus. It's a double "lynch" for town and he has perfect control over who he shoots, the only condition is that those two have to be right next to each other. The reason I like Colossus over the other vigis for town is that:

a) it cannot be roleblocked, so no shenanigans.
b) it doesn't have the warp ability which is incredibly mafia favored (taking control away from townies). We WILL policy lynch anyone who at any point in the game uses a warp ability.
c) it is two KP that can be aimed into the playerlist and controlled, so it is much harder to "fake" than other KP roles.

It's basically a brilliant ability to give us more KP. Basically we'll find a scummy player and shoot him and pick whoever of his neighbours is more scummy than the other. It might even be very useful for discussion.


Okay...so I get that it can't be, what's the word, easily faked. Kinda. Assuming that you don't have 2 kp available in scum and they hit people side-by-side for the wifom and lols watching town flip shit over it, (I haven't double-checked to be certain there are no other roles with splash effect type kp, but I seem to remember reading that in there somewhere). The next question is how useful is a vigi shot to town that isn't targeted?

You're assuming town gets lucky enough to have a scummy next to a scum where getting rid of both actually is a good play. I mean, it happens, but I dunnae how likely that is.


We can always tell the colossus not to shoot... we ASSIGNED it to Obi.


Nah, I get that part. Kinda. Not sure how people are already solid on alignments this early, but what I'm saying is if scum has 2 kp available what's preventing scum from hitting two people next to one another in the draft pick then sitting back and watching town go apeshit? lol

Telling the colossus not to shoot doesn't prevent those sorts of plays.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 17:09 GMT
#334
Not gonna lie, apart from seeing that there are certain roles that are obviously made for town and certain ones obviously made for scum, I'm a little lost. I chose my role awhile back.

We're not thinking of massclaiming, are we? I don't actually think that would be the worst idea, especially if you wanted to maximize roles that help town narrow down scum and not end up with too many probes.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 17:29 GMT
#339
On January 26 2015 02:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
Not gonna lie, apart from seeing that there are certain roles that are obviously made for town and certain ones obviously made for scum, I'm a little lost. I chose my role awhile back.

We're not thinking of massclaiming, are we? I don't actually think that would be the worst idea, especially if you wanted to maximize roles that help town narrow down scum and not end up with too many probes.

We will mass claim.

You can change your role and you should if it doesn't fit my plan.

You're not a unique snowflake. Fall in line.


xP Considering your plan looks like mostly not picking clearly scum-aligned roles, why would I say as either alignment that I was changing my role?

You're amusing.

Okay, just wondering if straight-up assigning roles was on the table or not. I can see the drawback being of course that scum would already know who had which role...but yeah. Eh, I'll let y'all figure out the setup @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 20:08 GMT
#345
On January 26 2015 04:29 Superbia wrote:
And mafia just accepts the top 3/4 is all town?

I also want to know why oats backed out of the #2 spot that easily.


Hmm...is picking numbers close to the top alignment indicative? I get that it effects whether or not you get your desired role, but I guess the question is, is it alignment indicative enough to make a good value judgment on it alone?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 21:18 GMT
#349
On January 26 2015 05:12 Superbia wrote:
No. Any alignment wants the top spot. The question is whether mafia would, as a whole, accept a top 4 which is all town without any fight.


True. So...either top numbers were already claimed by scum or some of those double-ups on claimed numbers were to knock people out of the line-up, most like. Course, there's also the people not reading cause that happens a lot.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 22:15 GMT
#354
:/

I'm not really following those reads, SL...or points, or whatever. Explain?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 25 2015 23:39 GMT
#364
nothing spectacular for me. left the shielding for the townies who are higher up on the ks list than a noob xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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