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LoneMeow
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/out /coach town voluntarily if needed (and if there's room for a coach, I want to be involved somehow) since the deadline is kind of bad for me. | ||
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On January 17 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote: He said that he would only be making 10 posts per day. I personally feel that it will be extremely hard for him to play effectively with 10 posts per day. If he is purposefully handicapping himself with a very strict post limit and that causes him to play poorly and be lynched, that's his fault; we can't allow for players to intentionally play badly. I will remove my vote if he proves himself useful. So you're advocating policy lynching him for something he said pregame? That's pretty silly. | ||
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On January 17 2015 07:26 Trfel wrote: Like I said, if he does something useful, I will move my vote. So if he doesn't do much but someone else does something super scummy you won't move your vote? | ||
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On January 17 2015 07:35 DarthPunk wrote: Well I don't think you need to use meta especially on such a new player. To me it seemed like a very townie thing to do even though it was bad and wrong. Which newbie scum player is going to try and policy lynch a vet at the start of the game? Shows no fear of being controversial in the thread. Shit like that rarely happens for new scum players. A bit WIFOM but yeah, it puts him in the spotlight so more likely to come from town than scum. | ||
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On January 17 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote: I not scum and I Was refering to rsoultin because she hasn't entered the thread yet and would love to talk to her about the game. Why her out of all the people who haven't participated yet? | ||
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On January 17 2015 19:04 jarjarbinks wrote: Those were the major reads I got from what I have read up to when I started posting. I'm tired so I will not elaborate on the other people who have posted besides basic thoughts. Gereipt: Your analysis seems fair. I feel like you would do this no matter what game you play. I haven't played this game to know if you left something out (if your mafia). So I can't give you a solid town or mafia read for now. Lonemeow: Only defended Trfel and questioned Rsoultin's questioning. Probably due to lack of playing with Rsoultin. This is a possible lurker in my eyes. I guess we shall find out tomorrow. CoolITLname- definite lurker! Or you know, could be sleeping or something...lol WE SHALL SEE Waffle- Tried to ask LS a question to establish credibility. Let's see what he does. DP- I liked gereipts analysis on DP. Very jumpy on Rsoultin for questioning Trfel as well as "missed" Trfel "making waves". Possible she could have just jumped on Rsoultin for the same reasons Rsoultin jumped on Trfel thought. So your major reads are a summary of what people have done so far? No one is scum or town? Then why call them reads? | ||
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It's on the scummier side of things, as scum he'd want to look like he's giving reads even when he really isn't. However, knowing his play in the previous game it's not as conclusive as it could be. | ||
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On January 18 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote: Gonna read the walls of post later. ATTENTION LURKERS IMMA GONNA GET YOU!! You keep going on about this, but never do anything about it. Are you perhaps scum? | ||
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On January 18 2015 12:11 TheWarWaffle wrote: Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc. How does the policy vote in first post make more sense from scum perspective? Where did Trfel give meta reads? I did not notice many of those in his filter. Please quote me some. | ||
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LoneMeow
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On January 18 2015 18:18 jarjarbinks wrote: Good question on the being present in the thread and responding to questions thing. I feel like that is generally something everyone does? I would disagree with this, at least from my limited experience. At least based on my only game, if town mislynches town 3 times then town is equally screwed as long as medic doesn't save anyone. My last game we had 3 straight mislynches and we were done. I think this game has the same number of players. A borderline "scumslip"? We don't know if there's a doctor in the setup, so it's interesting that he doesn't consider that possibility explicitly. Also I can't quite follow the logic. "X is competitive so he's likely to try to avoid being lynched as scum." "I disagree, <some mumbo jumbo about how many mislynches needed>." How on earth does the number of mislynches needed affect the fact that scummers should always try to stay alive? | ||
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On January 19 2015 00:11 GlowingBear wrote: Like, voting Breshke and saying that he isn't doing what he was supposed to do? But even if I wasn't doing that. Why am I scum for NOT pushing lurkers? Why did you choose Breshke out of all the low content people? Why not me or TheWarWaffle? | ||
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On January 18 2015 12:36 Breshke wrote: TOWN Trfel : Trying to change his play seems towny to me. I think as scum he would be more wary of doing this because as we have seen people would notice the change and ping him out for it. LS : His meta case on me is bad in my opinion but it is the conclusion i thought he would come and to me shows he is trying to work out alignments and stuff not just trying to look town. Damdred : I liked his case on Cool and the fact that he made people discuss it. Even though we know it was wrong I found myself agreeing with it and Cool would have been my top scum if he was still alive. On January 18 2015 15:07 Breshke wrote: I read him town for some weak meta case on my being more lurky as mafia. I expected someone to try and come at me because of it and thought it was towny. That's actually a fairly shit tier read though because it isn't actually alignment indicative. Would need to look more into it but i wouldn't call him town anymore. This progression on LightningStrike is is just pure bullshit. "Weak meta case" when he's in your strong town category, really? And if you actually had read his previous town games you would have instantly seen that he's playing exactly like he has done as town so far. I'm fairly sure you didn't actually bother to get any kind of meta on him, just used that as excuse for a town read. Scum like to do that. ##Vote: Breshke GlowingBear, I am sorry for doubting you  | ||
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On January 19 2015 00:51 Damdred wrote: .,.so you have no thoughts on anything else just spamming about older stuff? Other thoughts, well. LightningStrike looks town by meta. DarthPunk looks town for the way his LightningStrike read evolved when presented with evidence from other games. Trfel I'm really torn on, the case by rsoultin has merit but Trfel puts quite a lot of effort into some of his posts which is a town trait. rsoultin is perhaps town for his defence of LightningStrike, since if I trust my read on LightningStrike he'd just be narrowing his potential mislynch pool if he did that as scum. But that's associative between unflipped players so meh. | ||
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On January 19 2015 02:23 TheWarWaffle wrote: It's not just about the policy vote; it's about how all of Trfel's actions coalesce into a very suspicious pile. The vote itself was suspicious in Trfel's meta-reads: There are more, and there are posts made by him entirely on the topic of meta I will not post here. I am unsure as to how you may have missed them, considering what few reads Trfel has are all based of off predetermined ideas of what people should be doing. What is YOUR definition of meta, LoneMeow? None of those really give a read (X is scum/town) based on meta, they're simply statements on whether he thinks the playstyle is similar, but I see your point, in a way they are reads since they are implying something about the alignment. You claim "it's not about the policy vote" but in the message I quoted you very clearly said: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. If you want to claim that somehow makes him scummy then you really need to explain how it makes more sense from scum perspective. | ||
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On January 19 2015 02:35 TheWarWaffle wrote: Absolutely. I'm leaning more towards GB than Trfel at the moment after having read both of their filters over and over again. Trfel at least pretends to be town; GB doesn't seem to care either way. Trfel will attempt to argue his way out of an accusation; GB will either ignore it or treat it like it's something other than what it is. I will leave my vote on Trfel as of now but GlowingBear is likely my EoD lynch target as of now. If you think GlowingBear has better chance of flipping scum than Trfel then why would you not move your vote? | ||
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On January 19 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote: Okay, LM, please clarify your vote on Breshke. The way I read it, you were saying Breshke had a weak meta case on LS, when the opposite was true. (Sorry LS, <3 you, but ^^  Ah, I must've misunderstood Breshke's post. English isn't my native language. Let me rethink. | ||
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On January 19 2015 03:16 LoneMeow wrote: Ah, I must've misunderstood Breshke's post. English isn't my native language. Let me rethink. Right, it's far less strongly implicating him as scum now that I understood correctly, although I still don't like the way he went from "LightningStrike town" to "wouldn't call him town anymore" without any real explanation on what caused the shift. For now, ##Unvote | ||
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On January 19 2015 03:18 rsoultin wrote: EBWOP: Also, can you please explain to me what part of my case on Trfel you thought was good? The going sentiment among the vets was it was shit, so... (I personally still think it was decent, but with so many people calling it bad xP Have to wonder why you like it.) I find myself agreeing that the way he suddenly backed out from a policy lynch he had strongly defended up to that point is suspicious. I think it's more likely to come from scum who's scared about all the attention the policy push is getting. I also don't like the way he implies "weird" means "scum". | ||
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