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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 21 2014 20:08 GMT
#56
Hmmm...

Yamato's game isn't filling fast. If this game starts first I'm /in and ill /out his until completion.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 22 2014 09:34 GMT
#88
I've never really gotten into any anime shows. I've watched a couple episodes here and there but nothing ever really grabbed me. Despite that I still know that kush is wrong.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 22 2014 21:55 GMT
#102
On September 23 2014 05:16 geript wrote:
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On September 23 2014 03:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I could play, but I would be massively less active than I would normally be. I'll be travelling a lot this week.

That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta.


I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 22 2014 22:20 GMT
#104
On September 23 2014 07:06 geript wrote:
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On September 23 2014 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 05:16 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 03:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I could play, but I would be massively less active than I would normally be. I'll be travelling a lot this week.

That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta.


I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy.

Well your town meta is that you're awful and can never read me right. So long as you don't fit that I'm happy.


Have I ever read you wrong?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 22 2014 22:24 GMT
#106
On September 23 2014 07:23 geript wrote:
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On September 23 2014 07:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 07:06 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 05:16 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 03:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I could play, but I would be massively less active than I would normally be. I'll be travelling a lot this week.

That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta.


I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy.

Well your town meta is that you're awful and can never read me right. So long as you don't fit that I'm happy.


Have I ever read you wrong?

Arguing with me is in your scum meta. I like you Prome but if you keep up on this track I will fuck the lynch out of you.


Have you ever played with me as scum?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 23 2014 01:09 GMT
#169
On September 23 2014 08:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 23 2014 07:53 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 07:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 07:23 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 07:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 07:06 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
On September 23 2014 05:16 geript wrote:
On September 23 2014 03:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I could play, but I would be massively less active than I would normally be. I'll be travelling a lot this week.

That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta.


I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy.

Well your town meta is that you're awful and can never read me right. So long as you don't fit that I'm happy.


Have I ever read you wrong?

Arguing with me is in your scum meta. I like you Prome but if you keep up on this track I will fuck the lynch out of you.


Have you ever played with me as scum?

If you'll remember, I ran for Mayor and said I'd lynch the popular choice (you) only to I think read you as town. Then on N1 I hard read VE and Dr.H as mafia and defended Chezinu (mafia). I think I got lynched D3 after BH as paranoid cop checked me (I got framed) but he was told red; only like 24+ hours into the day did he get told it was green. BH tells that story better though.

The very first game we all played in together actually.
You were lynched D1. Think it was LX. Geript and I had a shit fight.


I forgot that game happened. But yeah, that did happen.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 15:38 GMT
#612
On September 24 2014 11:42 geript wrote:
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On September 24 2014 11:37 Hapahauli wrote:
I really don't like geript. Town points for the person who tells everyone why.

##Vote Geript

Because I'm awesome?
Also, why did VE get a QT?


This sits wrong with me. I know others mentioned it as well but...well...fuck it. I don't like this very much. Geript isn't an idiot and the mechanics of this game were pretty damn clear as far as I can tell.

On September 24 2014 13:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
its the best play at the moment, if some one can make a compelling case ill consider it but when day 1 is usually hit or miss ill take a 3rd party kill that is CLAIMING IN THREAD that he is going to play anti-town death any day.


Vayne, as far as I remember, understands roles better than most. He is totally missing the point of CR's claim and (intentionally?) misunderstanding the claim.

Bringing up the possibility that CR is an anti town 3p claiming to be the survivor is totally valid but that is not what VA is doing, instead he is casting the claim in a bad light while believing it without question. Those two thoughts do not jive well for me and I would happily lynch him off of this cognitive dissonance

On September 24 2014 13:35 DarthPunk wrote:
So kush is town.


I agree with this and the reasons behind it.

On September 24 2014 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
He is much more apathetic and willing to conform to what people want to hear as mafia.

Also, reading Kush as town for being himself is nonsense.


Naw reading him as town for his "since when are VTs masons" comment is legit. It reflects the way kush thinks (or doesn't) during games. He wouldn't read the OP and be surprised by having a partner as town. As scum he wouldn't mention it because he'd assume it was a scum power.

On September 24 2014 15:26 DarthPunk wrote:
So if we lynch mafia we should lynch their partner immediately afterwards.



Not necessarily. We should treat his parter as having a red check on him when we know a framer may exist. The game suggests that the partner is scum but we should only lynch him if he seems scummy. Blind lynching is stupid.

Statistically if we flip one scum out of a partnership and all other partnerships still have at least one member remaining it is only a 1/2 chance that his partner is scum.

On September 24 2014 15:51 geript wrote:
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On September 24 2014 15:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.


Abuse will posts when he posts. Regardless, it's better to vig an AFK player than waste a lynch on him. From the OP, it's likely town has KP.

Yah but of the vets other than VE, I think you're the most likely to flip mafia imo. So lynching an AFK actually gives us better information on who to shoot.


If Hapa is a vet I'm a vet and I hadn't posted at all at this point in the thread. I have conflicting feelings about this because on one hand a scum player should be looking towards me as an easy lynch (especially geript who said earlier that he was sure I'd be mostly afk). Because of that I feel somewhat townie on geript because pushing a lynch on me would be easy and he respects my town play so getting rid of me would be a clear benefit in his scum mind. On the other hand why would town forget about a player who could be scum.

I think I'd take geript as town at this point but there are a few things that give me the heebie jeebies in his posts.


Overall:
townish: geript, DP, Yamato, Kush, oats
scum or 3p(I think there is a good chance that CR is 3p but not defender): CR
Scummy: abuse/damdred/mm1 (all of them for just being so totally non-entities in the thread that I remember no content from them. Vayne (I don't like his misguided focus on the 3p, it feels like a traditional scum attack on an easy target with poor logic)
People I keep going back and forth on: hapa, VE, Grack.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 15:39 GMT
#613
On September 24 2014 23:50 yamato77 wrote:
Only bads are giving kush a free pass


I still think he looks townie for his off hand comment early on. A free pass I would not give him but I have no interest in lynching him d1. He is a decent d1 town read.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:01 GMT
#616
The thing is I'm not sure what my issues are.

Your tonality has been bugging me because it feels forced but I've had that feeling with your tone before (LoLYP for example) when you were town so I'm trying not to let it bother me.
You also said MM1 made a case on Kush which you gave him (MM1) town points for but, unless I missed something, he never made such a case.

Besides that though you've said some things that make sense and follow a logical town thought process. Your misturst of CR for instance has worked for me and your constant informing the thread as to his qt behaviour.

I'm not too interested in talking to you about you though. Instead I'm interested in whether you agree with my read of Vayne and why or why not.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:02 GMT
#617
On September 25 2014 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not reading Kush town. Anyone who is is probably playing with too much information. OHAI PROME, DIDN'T SEE YOU STANDING THERE GOSH WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT KUSH FELLOW EH?!?!


I think he looks townie from his first posts. I think DP looks townie for having the same reaction I had. I think anyone not reading kush as town is missing the obvious.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:05 GMT
#619
On September 25 2014 01:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also can I say how disappointed I am that there weren't like 100 new posts when I woke up? wtf is wrong with this thread?

Everyone should vote for Hapa. DP, not voting for Hapa because "Oh he could be an asset" is asinine, what if this was a town full of people like that? In fact, looking around, I'd say this IS a town full of people like that, with a COUPLE of exceptions that I won't even name. Let's just kill the scum in front of us, then find his partners. Ya?


This is a totally meaningless post VE. Sthap.

Instead talk to me about kush and Vayne.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:13 GMT
#622
On September 25 2014 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
And Prome don't discredit my push for my lynch target as meaningless. That's your free one. Next one comes with consequences.


"wah wah no one posted" is meaningless. It will always be meaningless.


DP posted "kush is town" just after kush posted his first post asking why VTs are masons. That was my immediate thought on reading Kush's post and it gives me good vibes for the both of them.

Now that we have that out of the talk to me about Vayne. His attacks on CR are scummy, he has not considered the actual possibilities, has not understood Cr's claimed role and still wants to lynch him for it. That shows scum motivation. Agree? y/n?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:16 GMT
#625
At no cost. He gets to push a lynch target while avoiding commenting and committing on other players, since the thread is against the lynch on CR Vayne gets to do the same thing the next day. What is the town motivation for misrepresenting the claimed role repeatedly? Is Vayne bad enough to just not get how the role works?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:18 GMT
#629
On September 25 2014 01:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:13 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
And Prome don't discredit my push for my lynch target as meaningless. That's your free one. Next one comes with consequences.


"wah wah no one posted" is meaningless. It will always be meaningless.


DP posted "kush is town" just after kush posted his first post asking why VTs are masons. That was my immediate thought on reading Kush's post and it gives me good vibes for the both of them.

Now that we have that out of the talk to me about Vayne. His attacks on CR are scummy, he has not considered the actual possibilities, has not understood Cr's claimed role and still wants to lynch him for it. That shows scum motivation. Agree? y/n?

I don't get how not understanding the role shows scum motivation. He could just not understand the role, as either alignment.


I guess I'm giving town Vayne credit for not being an idiot. If he were to make a push he would want to be right and to lynch anti-town. His push though is not doing that. He has continued the push even after mod clarification of role which suggests to me that he is trying to push a consistent target not to find scum/anti-town.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:20 GMT
#631
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:21 GMT
#634
On September 25 2014 01:19 Damdred wrote:
So how would you feel about other people willing to lynch into Cr today pro?


I believe that CR is 3p. I'm not sure that I believe he is defender. If I am not confidant in anyone being scum he would not be a bad lynch. A bit like a d1 lurker lynch/self aware miller lynch. It isn't terrible but it isn't the best option.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:24 GMT
#638
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:25 GMT
#639
On September 25 2014 01:22 yamato77 wrote:
This prom is forceful. Interesting.


This Yamato has not commented on my reads.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:28 GMT
#642
On September 25 2014 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.


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On September 24 2014 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, what the heck.

I'm Chitaru Namatame the defender. Not gonna bother saving town. SO DON'T KILL ME MAFIA



Yes he is clearly trying to win with his survivor role and is asking scum to not kill him so that he can win in endgame. What is your point? Do you still not understand his role? He is saying he won't save ANYONE.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 24 2014 16:29 GMT
#644
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.


gutread.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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