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lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 10 2014 02:25 GMT
#15
/in
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 24 2014 23:14 GMT
#86
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 26 2014 02:21 GMT
#104
LET IT GO, LET IT GOOOOO!
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 26 2014 05:51 GMT
#117
On August 26 2014 11:38 JennyHell wrote:
Good morning my darlings.
I have awoken from my much needed slumber and now we are going to hop to it, there's no time to flounder about!
You all heard the fairy godmothers!

First on the agenda is... Complimenting the magnificent mod of this wonderful event.
- The flavour text was exquisite. Good job!

Now, to more pressing matters.
Since when did you do flavour meatpie? Don't get me wrong it's refreshing, but is it towny?
I don't recall you doing it last game, although you were getting beaten quite hard (not by abuse) by almost everyone so I guess all you really had time for was defending yourself. Needless to say, I have my eyes on you.

lilwade, lilwade, wherefore art thou, lilwade?!
On the mountain tonight? How can I follow you if there's no footprint to be seen?

Superbia! My name isn't evil at all. Hell is a Swedish surname and does not mean the counterpart of "heaven". Just fyi. I do however agree that abuse is bang out of order! We'll just have to wait and see what he's got to hit us with.

May I also suggest that we all give reads in Bang, Marry, Kill format? It's something I started on DailyMafia and will continue here, whether you like it or not ;D

Jennayyyy I am here! I hope you stick around longer than 1 night this time around. I like your play style, it makes me want to sing. I hope we get some more activity soon, what are your thoughts thus far?
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 26 2014 20:00 GMT
#172
With classes starting getting anywhere is a huge pain but,
Here is my perspective from the last 12 hours.

1) Jenny you have started strong again but apart from last game you have come off way stronger this time around, maybe overcompensating to try to appear like you start every game the same, I am not sure. you are probably on my bang list for now, you know how I hate to commit to marry. What are your thoughts on MihZaaa?

2) Superbia despite your post that was longer than my last college paper I feel you are doing your best to seek out scum and test the waters and I think no mafia would have gone to lengths to provide what you did albeit in a poorly formatted manner. For the most part I think your genuine, but I still have my doubts on the quality of your reads.

3) Barakos I think you started of pretty strong but have moved down a little bit with some filler posts. Who do you think we should persue? Did you actually read superbia's post? do you think it could have been scum motivated? What in it makes you think it is an abomination or were you merely calling it that because of how long it was? What are your thoughts on abuse?

4) MihZaaa I agree the time zone difference is a bit of a pain but i will try to post between classes and all through out the night and morning to make it easier for you and any others who arent in the US. What are you thought on jenny and superbia because those are my strongest reads atm. Do you think jenny is overcompensating? I just refreshed and saw your post, I agree for the most part that superbia's long post was filled with nonsense but do you think it is town motivated?

5) abuse I think that every mafia game we have atleast 1 person (you), to start of the game with classic reaction questions and I like it tbh, Myself you can call me Town Hero for I will seek out scum so none of our beautiful princesses have to die. I was hoping to get a character that I could add a lot of flavor with but I was unfamiliar with how to go about it.

As for my thoughts on you I think you are spending a little to much time defending rather than advancing and I do not like that. What can you bring to the table that will get the game on the right track aside from your first post.

Anyone I didnt mention was not worth mentioning and you need to be worried about that because I will be waiting to hear from you.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 03:09 GMT
#195
On August 27 2014 11:26 gobbledydook wrote:
abuse


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 04:22 abuse wrote:
@ Suburbia,

Might want to read my stuff again, I didn't promise a read from the previous mafia game, I said I would read the first 2 days of that game aswell, to keep myself informed on what happened there.

I also did not mean to push any policies, along with all the "garbage". I just mentioned them.
Also - You keep saying I am asking for reads and give none in return - I actually did not ask any reads from anyone yet( as far as I remember) and I also fully understand that it is much too early to post any real reads.
There has been barely any development at all yet.

I also completely disagree on your rating.
Seems a little weird that you give minuses for some points (seriously? -0.5 because you think that warning you that I am vocal in my games and will push people who i find scummy - to be a preface for possibly scummy play), yet you comment on much of Jenny's stuff, along with "scummy reference, careful now!" but still give her no minuses.
Sounds like blind agreement to someone who is the most vocal at the moment, while at the moment Jenny really has not done anything yet that would classify as real town. Only neutral.

I feel like you rush way too much and do not read into stuff enough, while are trying to make the impression that you do. Which on the other half sounds like someone who would want to push a mislynch.

Though there are no real reads possible at the moment, I feel a townie vibe from the exact opposite people you do.
I feel that Barakos and Mihzaaa give townie vibes, because they give thought out posts and pose questions in a non attacking manner, unlike you. Jenny seems neutral, since most of the stuff she says is positive(read: happy'ish) yet does not really show anything much about her alignment at the moment. Though I will agree that she does not give any scum vibes yet.


So look at this post

1) He's being rather defensive. It's been like one day into the game and no one has voted yet though already he is trying so hard to deflect any attacks on him. If he were town, he would be actually trying to make reads and analyse and contribute, instead of spending 2 big posts on explaining himself and arguing on semantics and fairness. Which ties onto the second point:

2) His reads are vague, general and useless. It's the easiest thing to say in the world that 'someone is town because he posts a lot of good stuff' and that's basically all he said. It's so easy for a scum to say that and look like he's given reads. Meanwhile look at his scum reads - '404 ERROR NOT FOUND'.

##Vote: abuse

for being scum.


I dont like that you come out of the woodwork and hop on someone elses boat. Instead of letting people analzye your post, you just come out with push on someone who has been getting picked at almost more than anyone else in the game. You accusing someone of vague, general, and useless when you have provided a poor case imo.

your second post I didnt get quotes with that but what i did gather is this "Though there are no real reads possible at the moment," Why then are you voting for someone? What does that gain the town, i get you like to push people but a day 1 mislynch is not what we want in a 9 person game.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 04:04 GMT
#198
Sorry that posts just needs fixing.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 22:16 GMT
#278
On August 28 2014 07:06 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 05:00 lilwade wrote:
With classes starting getting anywhere is a huge pain but,
Here is my perspective from the last 12 hours.

1) Jenny you have started strong again but apart from last game you have come off way stronger this time around, maybe overcompensating to try to appear like you start every game the same, I am not sure. you are probably on my bang list for now, you know how I hate to commit to marry. What are your thoughts on MihZaaa?

2) Superbia despite your post that was longer than my last college paper I feel you are doing your best to seek out scum and test the waters and I think no mafia would have gone to lengths to provide what you did albeit in a poorly formatted manner. For the most part I think your genuine, but I still have my doubts on the quality of your reads.

3) Barakos I think you started of pretty strong but have moved down a little bit with some filler posts. Who do you think we should persue? Did you actually read superbia's post? do you think it could have been scum motivated? What in it makes you think it is an abomination or were you merely calling it that because of how long it was? What are your thoughts on abuse?

4) MihZaaa I agree the time zone difference is a bit of a pain but i will try to post between classes and all through out the night and morning to make it easier for you and any others who arent in the US. What are you thought on jenny and superbia because those are my strongest reads atm. Do you think jenny is overcompensating? I just refreshed and saw your post, I agree for the most part that superbia's long post was filled with nonsense but do you think it is town motivated?

5) abuse I think that every mafia game we have atleast 1 person (you), to start of the game with classic reaction questions and I like it tbh, Myself you can call me Town Hero for I will seek out scum so none of our beautiful princesses have to die. I was hoping to get a character that I could add a lot of flavor with but I was unfamiliar with how to go about it.

As for my thoughts on you I think you are spending a little to much time defending rather than advancing and I do not like that. What can you bring to the table that will get the game on the right track aside from your first post.

Anyone I didnt mention was not worth mentioning and you need to be worried about that because I will be waiting to hear from you.


A cursory reread makes me feel the absence of lilwade. Look at this post. It feels...noncommittal doesn't it. So the problem with being noncommittal is that scum generally want to leave their options open so they can't be held responsible.

He follows up with a disapproval on my manner of entering the thread which is partly based on a misread. He disappears afterwards:

I would lynch lilwade but I think superbia is better.


First off my initial read is that you rushed head first into it rather than getting others opinions, It came from nowhere and I still think it was poorly accused, yes I had trouble with your fail quote post but I admitted that. As for lynching you I do not think you are my prime candidate. So I have my opinion on who is town at the moment but that wont get the game moving forward, from all of the filters ive read my top scum right now is...

MihZaaa

On August 27 2014 22:24 MihZaaa wrote:
JennyHell

Show nested quote +
Following it up with a response to lilwade asking about me and superbia, and this is very minor but he, instead of saying what he said in previous post that we are in his towncircle, he decides to phrase it as a "no lynch zone", which felt a bit off.


I had a no lynch zone but not a full town list yet. I was expecting the others to talk more so I can get a clearer mafia read instead of a "least town" read I had on abuse.

Show nested quote +
He then had his lengthy post where he seemed extremely defensive, but he brought up some good parts as well that I can agree on. But the general feel I got from his lengthy post was that all the commented on was things that was about him, concerned him or was good for his play, which to me felt scummy.


I talked about things concerning me because that's where I have the most valuable input. Not only that but I wasn't giving my thoughts in regards to Superbia's reads on others that much because I was interested in their unadulterated answer/reaction more.


Here you can see him flip flop around he claims his least town was "abuse" after the gobbledydook posts and yet he still comes in with the one liner post voting for gobbledydook. A person that does not have their own opinion is more detrimental to town than anything else. His filter kinda jumps around from person to person and doesnt really give scum insight.

##vote MihZaaa
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 22:35 GMT
#288
Right now I dont feel like either Gobbledydook or superbia are good day 1 lynches, Out of the 2 I would probably go with gobbledydook. Jenny do you think that these two are the right for the bandwagon???
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 23:10 GMT
#315
On August 28 2014 08:01 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:52 Superbia wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:45 gobbledydook wrote:
I think we should vote breshke for being completely useless. If I get enough support I am voting him instead.


To be honest I think we should vote you. I don't like how you've been playing this at all. You seem to barely read any of the posts, and you make unsubstantiated votes, simply basing it on an existing wagon. You've given no original content, and I don't like it. I don't know how anyone can be this scummy on day 1. I think you may be town because of it, but I don't think you live here, unless you give a great defense.

##vote: gobbledydook


my response is fuck you
im done here see you after the game when you get the mafia victory post

You can fuck right off with this post.

My top 3 scum are MihZaaa, Dreamweaver and Gobbledick with his last post.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 27 2014 23:11 GMT
#318
On August 28 2014 08:10 gobbledydook wrote:
IF YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME JUST TO GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM DO IT

k ##unvote

##vote: Gobblededook
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 28 2014 00:15 GMT
#382
On August 28 2014 08:57 JennyHell wrote:
lilwade, have your standpoint changed at all in the last couple of minutes?

First rule of mafia, dont get butthurt, I can definently see the scenario where gobbledysticks is town but his poor me town gonna lose attitude sucks. What happens when we give him the day pass today and then his name comes up again and he gets pushed? is he just gonna roll over again?
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 28 2014 00:19 GMT
#387
I will make this clear I See MihZaaa as my scum, but I do not like people who are detrimental to town. I think gobbledydook needs to put on his big boy pants and play the game.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 28 2014 00:24 GMT
#395
If we get momentum going for MihZaaa I will go for it
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 28 2014 00:24 GMT
#396
##unvote

##vote: MihZaaa
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 28 2014 16:30 GMT
#470
On August 28 2014 20:28 Barakos wrote:
lilwade: now, that there isn't the hectic of the nearing end of day:
Could you give us a little more insight in your switching back and forth?

breshke:
I pointed out some contradiction in your vote, since I get out of your post, that what has triggered your vote on gobble was his bm. Am I wrong here? If so, what was the reason you put your vote on him?

My switch was to pressure gobble to try to bring a case for himself, but he crumbled and gave up. Which is something is hate to see in mafia. Artanis told me in the first game to just keep it cool and dont take it personal.

And for those asking my read on MihZaaa it goes as thus:
He overly liked superbia's post for the wrong reasons, I felt that Superbia's post was just filled with absolute crap but I do feel it was town motivated. I doubt any mafia would bring such a post day 1 with 1000 awful fill posts. MihZaaa on the other hand found a lot of insight in it. The only insight superbia's post gave was that he called out what he thought was a soft cop claim which is bad.

Then:
On August 27 2014 04:25 MihZaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
I saw you gave +1 -1 etc to people in your post and decided to check if they came to the same conclusion as you did here at the end with your mafia and town circle.

The town seem fine, but on the lynch you skipped mentioning MihZaaaa that had a worse score than abuse.
Care to explain that?


Paying close attention to potential slip-ups is really towny I feel. Barakos did the same thing and Superbia did it to me and this is pretty much my town circle right now.

What bothers me is that the people I read as scummy have either not spoken lately or have barely spoken. I wouldn't like this to be a wasted lynch where we end up just lynching for inactivity but it seems that's the direction we're heading to.

He he says he is going to be eagle scouting everyones posts for slip ups but fails to deliver anything.

The Sheep
On August 27 2014 04:31 MihZaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
Though there are no real reads possible at the moment, I feel a townie vibe from the exact opposite people you do.
I feel that Barakos and Mihzaaa give townie vibes, because they give thought out posts and pose questions in a non attacking manner, unlike you.


I like this a lot because I think things got a little heavy. I am guilty of being aggressive at times and i think it's a good policy to push but not harass and to inquire but not interrogate. I'm happy none of the negative stuff didn't happen yet though.

Of course you are going to sheep someone who thinks you are town but I see right through this post. It is nothing but agreeing with someone who likes you and fluff.

On August 27 2014 08:08 MihZaaa wrote:
Ill go to sleep now but before I go I'll leave some thoughts.

From least scummy to most.

Barakos
Superbia and JennyHell
Abuse

People who haven't contributed enough:
Lilwade
Meatpudding
Breshke
Gobbledydook and Daydreamarine

With lilwade contributing the most out of those 5.

Out of the people I have gotten reads on I would lynch abuse the most but he's been much more useful to the town than the lurkers so I can't be happy with lynching him.

I do think that the vote on abuse is still a little early and I'm not sure where I stand on Superbia already voting on 2 people in less than 24 hours.

Every possible setup included 2 mafia so I would have liked to have a general idea of 2 scummy people by now but the scarcity of contribution does not allow me to do that.




Here MihZaaa is contemplating lynching abuse because he is least town in his eyes or a lurker because no one likes lurkers.

Why then did you not persue abuse or a lurker? instead you just say there is a scarcity of information which at the time almost everybody in the thread had atleast one scummy lead, but you chose to let it go to the next day.

And then your one liner vote on gobble

And then silence.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 29 2014 21:36 GMT
#571
Sorry guys I was in El Paso all day today I am gonna try to get a reads list before I go to class a lot has happened that we need to discuss more.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 29 2014 22:09 GMT
#574
Lets get down to it

Marry - Daydreammarine after his day 2 activity I think it is undeniable this guy is top town.

Bang-

Jenny - I really really want to marry you but something I was reading while going through your filter made me hold off, in short it was because you were doing something you told us all we shouldnt I do. I dont want to explain further because I feel you are still strongly town.

Barakos - Everyone has had you in their town circle and I dont necessarily disagree I just think that we need to examine everyone with the same perspective as others. Not what makes you town but what seems scummy.

Abuse - you started off pretty rocky with me, I read you really scummy early on with your super defensiveness and in newbie mafia that is usually a good tell, however I think I have seen enough from you to let you pass today.

Neutral

Superbia - A lot of people disagree with your playstyle but I actually read you as town early on, but the more I filter dive you the more I realize that the info you are provided

Scum

MihZaaa - being as he hasnt posted anything since my last read I think that justifying him here would be me reiterating myself

Breshke - I do not think I have agreed with you at all lately and I need to go through and read everything from your point of view.


I know that I have not actually provided quotes to back up my post here, I plan to give full reads with information backing up how I feel but today has just been nonstop and I have class now. I am very sorry I can't do this now.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#578
@Barakos what question were you referring to? I re read everything and you directed nothing except why I switched in the night phase.
lilwade
Profile Joined July 2014
United States136 Posts
August 29 2014 22:33 GMT
#582
I missed part of my superbia post.
that last sentence was "the more I filter dive you the more I realize the info you are providing has been way off.
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