Cell Mini Mafia II

On May 28 2014 22:07 Palmar wrote:
join me in voting mtamburini mderg.

On May 29 2014 01:12 27ninjabunnies wrote:


So at first you weren't going to vote for ritoky as mayor, but now you are considering it.

What about his cell order seems reasonable?

On May 28 2014 09:41 ritoky wrote:


In all seriousness, I am trying to think about this game slightly different than a normal mafia game. I am trying to think about it in terms of the cells and getting strong reads on players in the cells. Outside of the fact that freedom and murrica declare that Cell A should go first, I know I am town and I think you have posted and done enough in the thread for me to get a strong read on you. Thrawn has yet to post, so I can't speak with certainty, but I think there is a wealth of information in the thread about Cell A for people to make informed reads on two of us already.

The next Cells I would consider after A are C or B. Probably C before B. In regards to Cell C, I think there is something off about ShiaoPi's post where he was critical of those who were joking. I didn't really find that it added much to the game beyond complaining about the state of the game. To me his complaints are anti-freedom. If he doesn't like the state of the game, why didn't he push hard for it to change to a more serious tone instead of just pointing it out and walking away? HF, unfortunately, has done more to push a town than Shiao but I also find his avoidance of certain questions and topics (such as my campaign against him) to be questionable. Batsnacks hasn't posted. We will see about him, but I think that after Cell A which will be very clear cut, how people vote in regards to cell C will be highly informative. Currently, I am about that Shiao kill in C (although I sways toward HF the more anti-freedom he spews).

Cell B would probably be next, although I could be convinced that it should go before C. I think poofter has pitted himself against Palmar in a very strong way, and I think WoS's response to that direction opposition of two people in his cell will be very alignment indicative for him. I like poofter currently, as he is in my murrica huddle. I like his case as a baseline for starting an extensive inquiry into Palmar. I think he also needs to bit of time to really flesh it out with gameplay support or watch it fall through. Which is why I would have him go 3rd. Currently, I am about that Palmar kill in B.

The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk.

On May 29 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:


did you read the last page? :p

On May 29 2014 03:21 Holyflare wrote:


well i didn't do that so whatever :D





^ On reflection this is really disingenuous. He starts by saying "Am i the only one here who wants cell C late" but not many people said C should go first. In fact, batsnacks is like the only person to say that and that was on the last page. If he DID in fact read the last page then what he said about batsnacks can't possibly be true. He just got specific and gave the order with C in front and explained his reasoning behind it.

I also explained the order i'd like and reads on people and why I picked that order but he left that out. So really, he's made up some strange things here.

On May 29 2014 03:28 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not making anything up. You just said you were up to date with the game and read the last page. On the last page batsnacks doesn't follow the metric about lynching the lowest contributing cells at all. He does quite the opposite. I started the day with no plan for cells because half the people in the game hadn't spoken yet. That should be obvious. I have made a post with a cell order that you should actually like but you didn't comment on that, you decided to pick up on the start of the game which shows you aren't evolving your reads as time goes on.

Why, if you are up to date, do your reads not account for anything that happened since the last time you posted?

On May 29 2014 03:46 OdinOfPergo wrote:
mderg I'm having trouble understanding your progression from
-don't want rit's to be mayor
-Rit's post a bit more = could be ok with Rit's mayor
-Likes Rits for mayor but would change cell order

You basically just realized you were tunneling him and then decided to 180% your read?
Your thought process here just doesn't seem natural.

On May 29 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
Activity is the only real metric you should actually be using because more activity is more posting is easier scum reading.

On May 29 2014 04:01 OdinOfPergo wrote:



What about Rit's post that you missed made you change your mind?
Because to be honest I don't like most of his 'murica this and that filler. It's just him insta buddying anyone that happens to play along. What's the easiest way to lead an agenda? Make friends.
His post feel rather forced to me. Elaborate yes, but not in a way that gives me good vibes.

On May 28 2014 09:41 ritoky wrote:


In all seriousness, I am trying to think about this game slightly different than a normal mafia game. I am trying to think about it in terms of the cells and getting strong reads on players in the cells. Outside of the fact that freedom and murrica declare that Cell A should go first, I know I am town and I think you have posted and done enough in the thread for me to get a strong read on you. Thrawn has yet to post, so I can't speak with certainty, but I think there is a wealth of information in the thread about Cell A for people to make informed reads on two of us already.

The next Cells I would consider after A are C or B. Probably C before B. In regards to Cell C, I think there is something off about ShiaoPi's post where he was critical of those who were joking. I didn't really find that it added much to the game beyond complaining about the state of the game. To me his complaints are anti-freedom. If he doesn't like the state of the game, why didn't he push hard for it to change to a more serious tone instead of just pointing it out and walking away? HF, unfortunately, has done more to push a town than Shiao but I also find his avoidance of certain questions and topics (such as my campaign against him) to be questionable. Batsnacks hasn't posted. We will see about him, but I think that after Cell A which will be very clear cut, how people vote in regards to cell C will be highly informative. Currently, I am about that Shiao kill in C (although I sways toward HF the more anti-freedom he spews).

Cell B would probably be next, although I could be convinced that it should go before C. I think poofter has pitted himself against Palmar in a very strong way, and I think WoS's response to that direction opposition of two people in his cell will be very alignment indicative for him. I like poofter currently, as he is in my murrica huddle. I like his case as a baseline for starting an extensive inquiry into Palmar. I think he also needs to bit of time to really flesh it out with gameplay support or watch it fall through. Which is why I would have him go 3rd. Currently, I am about that Palmar kill in B.

The last two would be probably E then D as of right now. Simply because I think we have the least information about those two at the moment and I can't say I have particularly strong feelings about any of the people outside of bunnies in those groups. I could be convinced to push D up after group A into the 2nd spot if someone convinces me of that sick tambo read, cuz his post was strange. I think it was him trying to make a joke about golden sun, but it fell flat and was awk.

On May 29 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
ever been changed intentionally* rayn doesn't count because drunk and angry at gumshoe

On May 29 2014 05:28 ritoky wrote:
Also, to stick with the theme of freedom, I have will now give my reads in an appropriate manner:



Blue represents the biggest patriot, or town read I have in a cell as of now. Red represents the largest scum read I have in a cell as of now. White is generally speaking, the person in the middle. Some of these are much stronger reads than the others, and as you can clearly see; I have not determined a solid scum read in groups D or E yet. Most of these reads are previously explained in the thread, but if you would like clarification on any of them, first consult this:



Then, please ask.

On May 29 2014 05:54 Holyflare wrote:


so what order would you like?

On May 29 2014 06:00 Holyflare wrote:


Can you explain this then? You want to start with group A because I presume you have a read on ritoky and it would be easy to solve so that would be a +point but then you jump into wanting 2 of the lurker groups to go next? How do you have such a strong read on D/E? I realise your argument for your own cell will be "because i'm in it so it's easy" but what about everyone else? You're then putting the 2 groups with the least amount of information at the front of the line when we literally have no idea what is going on in them?

On May 30 2014 01:31 batsnacks wrote:


I was rereading and I found something that really bothered me. It's in red above. MZ I thought you were pushing Odin as scum. If Odin is scum, how would he "KNOW" that either ritoky or you are scum? There can only be one mafia per cell.