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GGTeMpLaR
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On February 28 2014 07:12 boonetown wrote: I should probably step out as well then, as this is my first forum game. I'll let you make the choice, as I would love to play but respect the rules enough to understand that I shouldn't be playing this. Cheers ♥ you've played hundreds of epicmafia games and have hundreds of hours on video mafia you're fine | ||
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Robik town Boone town | ||
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##Vote: boonetown | ||
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I have returned i. Alakascum ![[image loading]](http://static1.e926.net/data/36/55/365564cb36c84a9e73afe5965baed861.jpg) Last game I played with Alakaslam, he was town and he trolled very differently - it made me want to policy lynch him because he really didn't ever explain his reads on Day1 and just trolled a lot like he wanted to be read scummy. This game, his early trolling read more like he was trying to be funny while still appearing to contribute. Not much to go on, which is why it was a simple gut read. ii. First Triumvirate ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/First_Triumvirate_of_Caesar,_Crassius_and_Pompey.jpg) I early read Robik as town because it lined up with his town video meta. It most mostly him being hyper-confident, even borderline aggressive, in his reads and not giving a fuck what other people thought. As the game has progressed, this condition has grown more serious and my town read on him grown more confident. I early read Killing as town because it also lined up with his town video meta, although it was much more tentative than my read on Robik. He came out of the gates ambitiously like an enthusiastic youth aspiring to find and slay scum and make a name for himself. This lined up with one of his town styles, not one of his mafia styles. As the game has progressed, I've grown more comfortable reading him as town because his logic/reasoning lines up with how I would expect him to be making reads, most specifically, on Robik and myself - barring his townread of VE for trying to break up a fight, which was dumb. I early read Boone as town for the same meta read from video play-style. This was the most tentative of the three, but as town, she sometimes behaves in what typically might be considered scummy (like being apologetic in her first post or letting everyone know "I'm worried guys it's my first game! [hint: IM TOWN]") - especially since she expressed nervousness pre-game about it being her first forum game. I was sympathetic at first, but then it all went wrong. iii. The Heist ![[image loading]](http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/tower_heist_31.png) Now, I wasn't by any means sure of these four reads. However, I had a plan. I could post them without reasons and get lots of reactions from the town that could potentially be useful for myself or for other townies in the future (it dragged on a little long but w/e). Later in the thread, Killing pointed out that Slam seemed to change his disposition entirely from my initial scumread of him, but I personally felt like he was unphased/motivated if anything. Further, he seemed to bring up what was a good case for scumreading Boone (her meta aside). I liked him more after this. iv. The Death of Crassus ![[image loading]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n-ISk3E6ALo/Um6EO1-t2-I/AAAAAAAAF2o/QSIfVslvlsE/w1920-h1200-no/2013-10-28_00182.jpg) On March 04 2014 15:08 boonetown wrote: so, you're attempting to prove 2 things right now from what i can gather, 1) you have no idea what 'text book scum' means AND 2) you don't know how to read people that you've never played with. I was actually attempting to be funny with my first post while at the same time letting everyone know I wasn't down to just lynch someone based on RNG. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia. CAN'T YOU READ THE TONE OF MY VOICE!? Basically, everything underlined lead me to begin questioning my read on Boone from "aw town Boone why do you say these things?" to "holy shit is she scum?". It was really defensive I felt even for her. So I did the vote trick again to see how she reacted. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=12#227 felt over-defensive, fluffy, and borderline "arguing against playstyle" as Slam noted. Ultimately from their interactions, I came to have a light town read on Slam and a light scum read on Boone, which I still hold now. The only thing that's made me second-guess scumreading her is when she outed her QT thread for reasons that she was afraid of being manipulated in it by mafia and having it hurt town. On the off-chance that you are town Boone, you should re-evaluate your meta-read on me based on On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote: You know better than to vote so fast on something so small. because voting in this is very different than voting in video mafia, especially when we are using a plurality lynch system. There is no risk of a misslynch from voting early or freely because you can always unvote. v. The Chamber of Secrets Opened ![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110806210025/harrypotter/images/thumb/6/62/Chamber.png/500px-Chamber.png) + Show Spoiler + GGTeMpLaR 03-03-2014 06:37 PM ET (US) I know you're both mafia don't talk to me I don't trust either one of you VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-03-2014 07:25 PM ET (US) The fuck? Fine then. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:14 AM ET (US) wat justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 02:15 AM ET (US) VE, we gonna talk? I don't really know how we should work with this since we are only masoned for a day. GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 11:37 AM ET (US) are u guys town justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 11:57 AM ET (US) what a useless question justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:19 PM ET (US) Weird. I thought there was only one foundation mason and now boone is claiming she is masoned with rayn and austin. GGTeMpLaR 03-04-2014 12:23 PM ET (US) ya me too anyways ill post some shit later don't stay up for me baby VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:49 PM ET (US) I WOULD talk, except that GG is in here. He's probably scum sooooooooooooo this is tainted. How about this: let's just talk in the thread? We'll use this at night, as intended. justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 12:50 PM ET (US) Deal. VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted 03-04-2014 03:48 PM ET (US) Templar you die if you don't convince me you're town either here or in the thread. Just putting that in here since it's already out there. Honestly, it wasn't me trying to look paranoid or me being paranoid. I thought it would be a good icebreaker and maybe even mildly funny, but VE took it oddly seriously. On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote: He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat. Actually, the bold was my first reaction too. Which is why I asked before I posted anything. I understand getting voted for lurking too much, but you're picking at straws with that one. Anyways, I'm here for a while - I know thread will have questions about my other reads. TL;DR TL;DR TL;DR - Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. | ||
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On March 05 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote: Nobody should assume that templar is posting in the qt. He has like 3 posts and there is zero content. Not that VE and me would be using it that much - we agreed on only using it at night. There is no content from either of you in the QT either. I just shared it with everyone though since you weren't interested in shedding any light on the situation. | ||
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-whines about me giving a read on you this is why I'm reading you as a reckless townie | ||
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On March 05 2014 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia? you didn't even read the tl;dr? what part confused you? On March 05 2014 09:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote: TL;DR TL;DR TL;DR - Top town is Robik. Town read on Killing too. Light town on Slam but it's more tentative. Still read Boone as mafia but there's still like 23 hours for me to evaluate shit. | ||
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On March 05 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: GGTeMpLaR called you fucking scum and town in the same post and gave two easy other reads with 10010 words and some fancy pictures.. You're not even reading clearly. I was explaining why I had initially voted for him and then stopped voting for him. I clearly concluded I had a light town read on him. go reread my post, which isn't even that big - it's 50% oversized pictures | ||
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On March 05 2014 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: So who is mafia? I don't care about your townreads on DM people because it's the easiest thing you can write an essay about. I don't care why you had a scumread on Slam and why you did change your mind. You basically wrote a big post about something that says very little. People I'm currently suspicious of/things that struck me as scummy: Boone - For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote. Some other potential candidates depending on how the day plays out - VE - Early on I thought things like this were weird: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=9#171 lot of fluff responding to someone else's question has me a little curious about him early on. Later on his reason for voting me felt forced and weak - very scummy in my eyes. Palmar Lots of fluff posts that _look_ pro-town on the surface without actually contributing to finding scum. It's a lot of asking people to contribute to find scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=12#240 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#242 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#244 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#245 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#247 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#256 (calls him town after a bunch of people already make the read, convenient that you give him that softball and then just agree with him anyways) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#258 (another useless question asked by you that he answers with a lot of fluff that doesn't actually contribute towards finding scum) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=13#260 (not from palmer but another useless question from you. his response is another fluff post but it was a fluff question to begin with. where you went with it is just fluff) Killing sort of pointed similar thoughts in one of his posts, which is why I townread him more (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444554¤tpage=17#336) [red]You[/r] Your questioning of Palmar was pretty scummy and you not reading my post properly is a little scummy as well, but I somewhat understand the criticism in your current post. I still don't like the early bit, or your fucking vote on me like I'm the best lynch. Dandelion The dumb argument he had with JAT around page 15 and Robik later on felt like mafia just filling the thread arguing useless stuff with stubborn town. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=337&topic_id=444554 Not even accusing him, just lightly throwing suspicion on him. Can't remember if someone else pointed it out or not. I know he's been called a trolly player but this game it's more like a mafia spreading chaos that fills up the thread with confusion and misdirection. | ||
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On March 05 2014 14:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: What's the case against boone and what's the case against Dandel? We need to lynch GGTeMpLaR because he wasn't doing anything and when he was called out for it he wrote a big pile of crap. Apparently there indeed was a buried "i changed my mind on Slam" between all the crap but the point still stands that the post is inceribly hard to read and it says basically nothing. I gave reads I explained reads I explained my thought process Half the town asked me to do it wtf ? I guess you could call the pictures crap if you want to be a stickler but it really wasn't a lot of text or hard to read at all. | ||
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Slam do you honestly still think both that Boone is mafia and that I am mafia with her, or do you just scumread me alone now? I don't even follow your vote anymore. | ||
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