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On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1. Doc doesn't need to claim D1 if he's not in any real danger of being lynched. Being IML it's not like we have to rush any decisions on who to lynch so it's pretty easy for the Doc to make a judgement call on whether or not to claim. Should we have the opportunity to mask who is the real Doc, we obviously should take it. That said, being 4-2 after tonight probably means we are no lynching unless there's a scum slip sometime anyways. On February 27 2014 07:54 Blazinghand wrote: That wouldn't apply pressure appropriately. We should just be aware that putting someone at Hammer-2 is the same as hammering them basically if they are town and all the voters are scum. There's no real pressure we can apply with voting though, Hammer-2 is 2 votes. That means we can really only have 1 person on the pressured person (assume no scum voted yet)? On February 27 2014 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm curious though, do you think it's a good idea to share scumreads right now? I'm pretty torn. Doesn't sharing scumreads just reduce the targets to essentially an agreed list of town should more people share their reads and then scum collates that information? Cop should prob be competent enough to figure out who to check anyways.. imo only share if it's pretty important / big. On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote: Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree? I would agree, but I can see the next level play in not claiming and the scum about to be lynched worming their way out that way too :\ That said, I'm looking through these possible cases and it's not even that pretty: Scum claims, real doc CCs, scum dies. 3-1 after NK. Real doc claims, scum CCs, doc dies, 2-2 gg? I'm feeling more like there's no chance in hell we will be able to get a good lynch off D1. | ||
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On February 27 2014 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote: syl why did you just reiterate everything that people said in the thread so far. Also its 4-2 tmr so 33% chance we lynch scum. Ezpz. because I was writing stuff as I was reading and I cbf deleting once I write it. Also, that's 66% chance we lose the game -_- With a claim it's 60% still :S With a confirmed cop claim on an alive town that's 50%. With a doctor too it's 33%. Odds suck. | ||
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On February 27 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote: dont be so pessimistic. Whos most likely scum? Not pessimistic, just realistic. Pretty sure no lynch gives us more info anyways unless the doctor dies n0. At the moment I've only got sn0 as his n0 contribution was pretty lackluster but that's pretty thin reasoning. | ||
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On February 27 2014 15:32 Xatalos wrote: I hope Sylencia is preparing an epic post right now I wish, I was afk. On February 27 2014 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote: keep talking. Why is sn0 contribution lackluster? The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points. Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact. | ||
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On February 27 2014 15:57 Sylencia wrote: I wish, I was afk. The only thought he's provided was a pretty obvious medic-cop wifom play for Night 1, in which he assumes both cop and medic are alive. Other than that, he's just been echoing the previous poster's points. Eh, again this case isn't even really a case it's just he's the only one of the group (excluding me) whose posts didn't really make any impact. Oh, to clarify, that 'group' is the group that posted in the morning, so Oats is excluded. | ||
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So really, advocating discussing scum reads or not doesn't matter, but saying not to discuss (which in theory makes it harder for scum to choose an NK target) makes you look townier? I think I confused myself writing this. | ||
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Blazinghand as far as I can see was a shot on just a solid townie (I never saw anything that had him hint he was blue). I'm guessing they didn't find any hints on who would be Cop/Doc during the night. That said, it was probably hard to spot seeing as I didn't hint it during the night: I'm a Cop. Checked sn0_man who is green. He was the one I had my eye on during N0, so I needed to get confirmation on which side he was on. | ||
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On February 28 2014 09:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Interesting wording. Not "the Cop" but "a Cop". I'm much less inclined to believe syl tbh. Regardless, I'm ez town ez lyfe. No reason to lynch today. Meh, my mind was probably thinking of "I'm a cop you idiot" not "I'm the cop you idiot" ;D On February 28 2014 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote: ez pz. Lol thanks syl for not breadcrumbing and shit. Well my attempt at bread crumbing would prob be obvious enough to get me shot n0 so I'll take that as a compliment. | ||
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Sn0's filter was 99% day 1 play plans, and only his PS ever hinted at who to check - but being an afterthought it seems unlikely he cared about the night at all. | ||
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On February 28 2014 12:00 JarJarDrinks wrote: Did you post during the night cycle or provide search targets to get feedback? I openly stated I was most suspicious of Sn0, over time there was enough of an agreement (though not in response to my statement, it was just generally put out there) that he wasn't really doing much too. On February 28 2014 12:01 JarJarDrinks wrote: I mean. You just explained what a cop filter looks like and it looks nothing like yours. It looks like Xats lol. I wasn't explaining my one - why would I need to find a cop filter when I am cop -_- I'm saying scum would be looking for a filter like sn0's where it's easy to deduce he isn't a cop so they can safely give him a check without arousing suspicion or inducing confusion from him. On February 28 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Why nolynch guys wtf. What advantage does it give us? No advantage. +1 cop check, potential save on a cop kill if the doc does their job properly, and that will give us: - 2 checks hopefully - 1 cop hopefully - 1 doctor which in theory gives us enough confirmed town to at least incriminate someone tomorrow, if not both scummers. | ||
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Artanis, Oats and JJD I think JJD is prob the last scum when looking at he association with Xatalos. His logic after Xatalos claimed seemed really premediatated. Xatalos fake claims, JJD "baits" a response, claims the response is a fake claim. Thing is, it feels too obvious :\\\\\\\\\ | ||
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However, I noticed one post that stuck out from Xat for me: On February 28 2014 19:35 Xatalos wrote: Actually one of the best scenarios would be if I flipped. In that case you and Sylencia would be pretty much confirmed scum. It's a valiant attempt to gain town cred by trying to martyr, but if you think about it from his perspective it doesn't really show much towniness does it? If he was the town cop, if he died, we'd gain +1 scum in me, but then town would have 66% chance to lose if the NK is the doc/non-protected guy. Doesn't really sound like a good tradeoff to me. However, he's been pushing for a no lynch because it's apparently better to have us completely confused over the cop checks even more on day 2 if there are differing results. Basically he offers the self-sacrifice yet pushes no lynch. That's scum yo. | ||
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On March 01 2014 03:55 Xatalos wrote: Lolz. How does Sylencia go from thinking that it's beneficial for town to no-lynch to soon use my stance of no-lynching as proof of me being scum? This is such a radical and complete change in his views that it can't be real. I'm using your stance of no lynch because you're saying "Hey, kill me because it's good" while advocating no lynch to gain town cred. Do you read? | ||
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On March 01 2014 17:45 Xatalos wrote: Why exactly am I scum for either supporting a no-lynch or mentioning that my death would benefit town? IT'S NOT THE FACT YOU DID _EITHER_ IT'S THE FACT YOU DID _BOTH_. MARTYR WITHOUT INTENTION TO FOLLOW THROUGH. DO YOU GET ME. | ||
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