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Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 22 2014 20:12 GMT
#43
/in
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 04:48 GMT
#548
On February 26 2014 13:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like that's what you literally say and everything contradicts the last thing you say...
Why?


You can read your own analysis of him from, like, a page ago and get an answer.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 05:45 GMT
#591
On February 26 2014 14:42 TheChyz wrote:
I don't think he's mafia, but I do think this sentence "But it's way scummier to call you town and sheep that case" is scummy. He is addressing himself to mocsta and basically saying (or this is how I read it, maybe misinterpreted) that if he [JJD] calls Mocsta town and sheeps that case it will make him [JJD] look scummier. And I don't understand why a town would be afraid of having a "scummier" image. If you are town, you know your intent was not scummy and you can give an explanation out of it. However if your scum it seems more likely that you are afraid of your image.


Why is it that you don't think he's mafia, but you think he's scummy? Are mafia and scum two different entities?
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 06:25 GMT
#615
I really want to point out that Chyz is overdefending himself. I was thinking about dropping it after gumshoe spoke earlier, but I see no reason that TheChyz should get a pass today. Why would he bother posting again to keep picking at the pressure being put on him? He seems content to make small posts with no real meat on them, and a quick look through his filter shows that all he does is ask questions. Furthermore, it's clear that he has been online almost this whole time, and all he has posted for almost two hours was a question, and then mentioning of a typo.

Seeing his earlier posts, he was talking to us about the JarJar case, and then dropped it almost seven minutes later. I wasn't under the impression that you could reread a 30 page thread and then immediately drop a case in seven minutes.

I think the only reason that he did that was because he was being pressured, and I think that his post on something as meaningless as a typo is a step in the direction that he's trying to contribute without actually doing anything. I want to hear more from him, ASAP.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 17:42 GMT
#780
##VOTE TheChyz

I've already made my case on TheChyz, and he hasn't addressed it. Check my filter if you need to see it.

Furthermore, what is with Mocsta's reads? He says rayn is scummier than Chyz, but rayn is pushing Chyz pretty hard. Rayn already voted him and pressured him hard, but says that rayn and Chyz are scum together, which seems highly unlikely.

I want him to elaborate more on his reads. If anything, they seem completely arbitrary.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 23:04 GMT
#943
The only reason I'm not jumping on this Mocsta train is because I still want him to try and explain his reads.

I'm still pretty sure TheChyz is scum as well, but he's the stronger of my two scumreads right now.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 23:18 GMT
#952
On February 27 2014 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cavalinho why are your posts so short and lack content unlike the last game?


Because I died immediately last game.

I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 26 2014 23:37 GMT
#964
On February 27 2014 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cavalinho why are your posts so short and lack content unlike the last game?


Because I died immediately last game.

I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens.

But you were not posting shit. The town was shit and you were the most townie person in that game.
There is no reason to not do anything you did in that game.


This post makes me very happy.

Very well, I'll tell you what I think we should be doing today.

I think we should be lynching between geript, TheChyz, and Mocsta.

TheChyz still has yet to answer to what I was saying before, and that's really starting to bug me. I think the only reason he dropped his scumread on JJD is because he was pressured. Unless I've overlooked something, I have yet to see him respond to my accusations that I posted before, and I'm not sure why you don't think he's scum.

Mocsta has yet to elaborate on his reads. When reading them, I thought they made absolutely no sense because at the time you were pressuring Chyz pretty hard and it seemed impossible that you and he were mafia together. (However, I have yet to see your answer on why you townread or at the very least nullread Chyz, so this is still a possibility.)

Geript is unreadable. I don't understand where he's coming from and his posts don't really make a whole lot of sense to me. If he doesn't make himself clear to me soon, I feel like pushing a lynch on him soon is going to be a necessity so I can get a much more solid read on the game.

I also want to see more from JJD. That is all.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 03:43 GMT
#1129
Alright, back from my stint at the gym for today.

Holyflare:

large posts that say nothing other than a player is null to scummy with your spare limited time is scum tell enough, returning to the thread saying we have no focus is what i did in hogwarts (but with extra cases), i'm more than happy to start this shit now + joining the adventure game while questioning it (scooby doo scenarios ++++) take it from the heavyweight champ, i know what scum tells are

##unvote
##vote suki


I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here. I want to believe you're town, but I don't understand your thought process when suki clearly hasn't been here for a large period of time.

Furthermore, geript isn't modconfirmed town. What the fuck? Was that really what he got from the mod message from page 56?

At any rate, this game is a bit of a mess. I'm going to ##unvote for the moment, and see if everything starts making any sense. Everyone is literally arguing in a circle.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 03:47 GMT
#1133
Also, can anyone else confirm that Mocsta was actually TheDavison from Smurf Mini Mafia?

His posting looks almost leagues more decisive and cleaner than what's going on this game, but I'm still not familiar with everyone's meta and whatnot.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 03:52 GMT
#1142
On February 27 2014 12:50 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Also, can anyone else confirm that Mocsta was actually TheDavison from Smurf Mini Mafia?

His posting looks almost leagues more decisive and cleaner than what's going on this game, but I'm still not familiar with everyone's meta and whatnot.


He is arguing from a position of weakness this game, hes been pressed all around and expected to respond to 4-6 diffrent cases simultaneously, some of which are probably trumped up by scum.


Ok.

Are they the same person?
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 04:00 GMT
#1150
On February 27 2014 12:53 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:50 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:47 Cavalinho wrote:
Also, can anyone else confirm that Mocsta was actually TheDavison from Smurf Mini Mafia?

His posting looks almost leagues more decisive and cleaner than what's going on this game, but I'm still not familiar with everyone's meta and whatnot.


He is arguing from a position of weakness this game, hes been pressed all around and expected to respond to 4-6 diffrent cases simultaneously, some of which are probably trumped up by scum.


Ok.

Are they the same person?



I dont know 0_0 sure I guess?


Ok. Then why are you defending him?
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 04:04 GMT
#1151
At a glance, this seems like a pretty good case. I'm gonna look through her filter to see what's up.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 04:58 GMT
#1164
On February 27 2014 13:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:
The only reason I'm not jumping on this Mocsta train is because I still want him to try and explain his reads.
So are you still waiting or are you satisfied?


Yeah, he already gave me a pretty reliable answer for the moment.

Why are you asking this question?
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:06 GMT
#1172
On February 27 2014 14:00 Mocsta wrote:
I did cab?

By saying I was Davison and pointing to a troll game?


You answered it a while ago. This is in reference to a different question.

I'll quote the post.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:09 GMT
#1174
On February 27 2014 09:17 Mocsta wrote:
I don't have much time today but see I am the vote leader
At this point my care factor is pretty low

I dunno what's worse: rolling scum when u k ow the rest of ya team lurks or playing a game like this where everyone jumps on u, it no1 a really specifies why I am scum.

Everyone issue seems to be that they cant my mindset... Which is null
Either way if it takes me flipping town for people to play this game properly so be it.
I think rayn looks better than say 12hrs ago. He's prob the only person I am comfortable with that has voted me.

Toad is prob town but is a real idiot. His thoughts may be crystal clear but that doesn't make the outcome right.

Vivax is a real surprise vote. I assume he's going to state one of me and gum is scum. Now he's town on gum I have become that town read.
He's tingling me right now pretty hard after his opportune vote switch.
Pls remember he was pushing wos and then pounced on me.

I need to reread suki case against her 2014 scum game.
I have her back at null from a rethink.
On one hand her cases were pretty lacklustre.
On the other hand I'm still giving credit for being CB.

I'm liking geript. As scum he could be trying to look good by town reading me, but his reasons seemed decent and not bullshit. It at least showed he thought about it which I thinks important with one caveat. He normally calls me town for moclogic which he hasn't dine here. Either way he's a terrible lynch for today.

I don't care for cavalinho questions, but I liked him based on association with chz. If cha was somehow town I would consider cavalinho as sleeper scum

Jjd is town. Too many flip-flops on me which are unwarrantedironically this is how I'm playing the game yet I'm apparently not town.

Its a concern ange hasn't posted but I think she said she would be away initially.

Lastly HF I guess. Dunno I don't like him but its pure feel. I expect him to be better than this is prob the crux.

Hmmm so that's where I am at
To me CHz posting hasn't improved and I still think he is intentionally withholding his position on matters.

He's my vote for the cycle.

Like I said. Today is crunch day for me at work so I wasn't even meant to post this. That's it. Obviously I would prefer to not be lynched but this game is quickly heading towards if I don't like it. Its scum mentality which will not help my cause. Ciao and if I flip look hard at vivax.


This one was the one I was looking for. I wanted you to explain your reads, and you did for the most part.

I don't like the fact that your reads were weird at start, but everything looks much cleaner and easier to follow here.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:24 GMT
#1180
On February 27 2014 14:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 13:58 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 13:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:
The only reason I'm not jumping on this Mocsta train is because I still want him to try and explain his reads.
So are you still waiting or are you satisfied?


Yeah, he already gave me a pretty reliable answer for the moment.

Why are you asking this question?
Um, to get an answer. Were you not planning on letting people know about your read on mocsta untill I asked?

Like you make these statements and then don't follow up on them. Like you're only trying to find the right thing to say @ the time. For instance:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 13:04 Cavalinho wrote:
At a glance, this seems like a pretty good case. I'm gonna look through her filter to see what's up.
Have you filter dived yet? Any conclusions you'd like to share?


No, you're right. I am forgetting about shit. For right now, I think that between my three initial scumreads, I'd only be willing to vote for geript or TheChyz at this point. Mocsta seems pretty town once he sat down and really gave his reads on what was going on around him, though I don't know why he brought up a game where he was trolling as town. That was...really odd.

Furthermore, I still stand by the fact that I think suki hasn't had the chance to really talk about things. At first, she looked a lot like she was following her old meta by zeroing in on one person and just leaving it at that, but as you can see, she's already elaborating on her reads whereas Chyz has yet to even acknowledge what I said in the first place.

At the same time, suki could just be pouncing on what seems to be the most opportune lynch of the day. Her reasoning is solid, so she seems town, but I'm not discounting what the other players have said about her play thus far.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:28 GMT
#1182
On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him.



Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar?

Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched.


My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?

Looking into more people now.


These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it


She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play.

The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:42 GMT
#1188
On February 27 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:
On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him.



Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar?

Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched.


My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play.

On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?

Looking into more people now.


These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it


She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play.

The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it.


right.... so then she said it was a legitimate call out only to then say my case was bad despite agreeing that her case was bad in the first place ~__~


At this point, we are just arguing in circles.

Let's look at the facts we have in front of us now: Chyz has added nothing, and it clearly isn't due to time constraints, whereas the second suki comes back and has a chance to sit down and look at shit, she expounds her initially poor case with good evidence.

I think it's solid, for the moment.
Spectaticle
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 05:48 GMT
#1191
On February 27 2014 14:45 suki wrote:
Cav who do you find scummy? Let's see a vote.


I've already voted TheChyz once, but I unvoted because my townread on rayn is pretty strong and I'd be willing to follow him.

My current scumread is TheChyz, but geript is being weird as fuck and I can't really read him.
Spectaticle
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