• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:37
CET 03:37
KST 11:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !6Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1868 users

Normal Mini Mafia: Episode I

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#10
rofl @ DarthPunk smurfing in his own game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 16 2014 23:31 GMT
#15
/in
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:03 GMT
#78
rofl. I am the guy who outed our scumteam that one game.
Weak DarthPunk, so weak.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:14 GMT
#81
How about we just find mafia and lynch them regardless of what they try to claim?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:16 GMT
#84
I am not claiming anything.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:17 GMT
#85
On January 20 2014 09:15 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How about we just find mafia and lynch them regardless of what they try to claim?


how about we be realistic about the uncertainty inherent in this game, put our egos aside, and go with the most protown course of action?

So your "most pro-town course" is that regardless of one's actions we should not lynch them if they claim blue.
That's not pro-town at all.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:19 GMT
#87
I found it ironic that my "name" is Z-Boson, the dude who outed my scumteam by posting our scum QT in thread in one game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:20 GMT
#90
omfg are you stupid? no i am not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:25 GMT
#94
On January 20 2014 09:22 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn... read op maybe?
there is a difference between named vt and regular vt in this game.

You are claiming a pr of sorts without realizing it.

Different player names for everyone, regardless of role, even if you have the same role someone else has.
Ask the host if you don't believe, and stop making dumb conclusions. I am not stupid enough to claim something without knowing i am claiming something.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:28 GMT
#99
On January 20 2014 09:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys. I'm town. Kush's plan is stupid. I'm KINDA okay with Boxers claiming. It certainly forces scum into an uncomfortable position of choosing now whether to fake-claim it.


Why is it dumb?? this is a conversation i wanted to have pregame btw but no one talked.

VE it's demonstrably a bad move for scum to fake claim named VT. No scum is ever going to fake claim named VT unless it's as some last second thing to save their ass for another day.

Because your plan ensures we lynch town on D1, most likely on D2 too. Then we lynch one claim/counter-claim even if we have found mafia. So you are banking the game on D3. Terrible plan.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:33 GMT
#102
On January 20 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the likelihood for our second lynch choice flipping scum is pretty close to our first choice.

Also if they are scum and they claim blue, they are just postponing their lynch.

Why would you as town want to postpone mafia lynch?

Balla it's a joke.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:42 GMT
#107
No you don't necessarily postpone the lynch. Then you look if the claim makes sense and and either believe it or not. You don't just blindly trust claims.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 00:55 GMT
#112
Nobody should claim at this point. Named VT's (boxers) do not help us in any way now because there is a possibility of 0-3 boxers and claiming does not clear anyone, it only gives mafia information about the setup unless we want all people to claim which we don't.

suki, kushmasta does not usually even read his own role PM properly (which is proven by last game for example) so unfortunately that plan does not make him non VT / non named VT and certainly not mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 01:11 GMT
#118
On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody should claim at this point. Named VT's (boxers) do not help us in any way now because there is a possibility of 0-3 boxers and claiming does not clear anyone, it only gives mafia information about the setup unless we want all people to claim which we don't.

suki, kushmasta does not usually even read his own role PM properly (which is proven by last game for example) so unfortunately that plan does not make him non VT / non named VT and certainly not mafia.

Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role.

Here is the problem:
If the named VT's claim it gives mafia info about the setup.
  • If there are no named VT's -> mafia knows the setup and can WIFOM by fakeclaiming VT and it's impossible to prove if itäs true or not
  • If there is 1 naved VT -> If mafia has a GF they know the setup, if not, they know town has no more than 1 power role.
  • If there are 2 named VT's -> mafia knows there is only max 1 power role.
  • If there are 3 named VT's -> mafia knows there is no other power roles. they can WIFOM a roleblock on people and it "confirms" that's not the setup, so WIFOM.


Every single possible scenario only helps mafai and not town, so no, don't claim named VT's because they can't be confirmed and it only helps mafia if they know how many Named VT's there are.

Discussion closed.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 01:42 GMT
#124
On January 20 2014 10:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah kush is right, pretty close to confirmed that one of kush or thrawn is scum

Well in that case:
##Vote: thrawn2112
There is nothing scummy in what kush has done so far.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 01:52 GMT
#126
On January 20 2014 10:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn do you really think town kush would ever type this

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 09:15 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 20 2014 09:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How about we just find mafia and lynch them regardless of what they try to claim?


how about we be realistic about the uncertainty inherent in this game, put our egos aside, and go with the most protown course of action?


Followed by the most anti-town suggesion? Yeah i think he could.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 02:12 GMT
#129
Could lynch for that post.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 02:29 GMT
#132
Crossfire do you like kushm4sta's plan?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 02:34 GMT
#134
I don't have high hopes on someone who has read the thread and still cannot conclude what Boxer is.
In fact it's highly likely they are mafia and don't actually read the thread.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 03:15 GMT
#141
What i do not understand is why do you even consider the claiming as you have already implied you can't possibly learn anything from it as town..
table for two on a tv tray
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft428
RuFF_SC2 137
ProTech133
Nathanias 55
Ketroc 42
Vindicta 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 522
Bale 269
NaDa 52
Noble 28
Mong 12
Hm[arnc] 10
League of Legends
C9.Mang0371
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox302
Other Games
summit1g10341
Day[9].tv615
XaKoH 607
ViBE180
Maynarde100
Trikslyr81
Mew2King53
CosmosSc2 39
Livibee25
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 87
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 5
• Azhi_Dahaki3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22375
League of Legends
• Doublelift3772
Other Games
• Scarra668
• Day9tv615
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
8h 23m
ByuN vs Creator
Clem vs Rogue
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
OSC
11h 23m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 23m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
WardiTV 2025
1d 8h
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
1d 9h
Ladder Legends
1d 16h
BSL 21
1d 17h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.