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[Translation] 334 on Playing with Savior

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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
December 02 2013 21:18 GMT
#1
334, as some of you may know, was Savior's 2v2 partner with whom Savior won the 2v2 portion of the BW Asia Open in Shanghai.

334 wrote a post about his experience playing with Savior, and I've translated it below. I believe the majority of their communication was done in English, and all the quoted portions were them communicating in English (or at least, that's the sense I got out of it from the post). The post is written from 334's first person perspective.

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I officially confirmed that I would be playing with Savior on the night of the 21st, and we began practicing together on Fish the day after. Savior liked to use the full names of buildings, like “Getway” [sic] [T/N: in China, most buildings are referred to by their hotkeys. Gateway would be “bg,” Citadel and Archive would be “vc” and “vt,” etc.] I told him he could just use hotkeys, and it’d be simpler to type, and I would understand it more easily. There’s not much to be said in 2v2 anyways, “g” and “b” mostly, so there weren't any communication issues.

Savior found a lot of Korean teams for us to practice against. We played against pretty much every team ranked 2 to 6 on Fish, and we won more than we lost, so Savior and I were very confident in our trip to Shanghai. Savior is an outgoing/talkative guy. We would discuss strategies over QQ, and he would be very focused in helping me prepare, and when I would make a mistake he wouldn’t blame me or anything. In game four of the finals on Python, Savior knew it was GG for us when we couldn’t take out jatgirl’s (beast’s) Hatchery, so he typed to me “hard to win, just enjoy the game”.

After the groups were set, Savior and I kept talking about the likely matchups. In the other bracket, Scan and Fengzi are basically guaranteed first place, so getting first place in our bracket would make it more likely for us to advance. We’re in the same group as jatgirl and pic, so neither of us wanted to be second in the group and end up facing Scan and Fengzi, so we played our hearts out in the group stages. When the score was 2-2, we took a break, and I asked Savior “go smoke?” He smiles and shook his head and said “no, go on”. It really is the kind of calm and poise that comes with being a bonjwa… We won a close 3-2, and Savior was very happy when we won and said to me “oh, so we go final”.

Before the tournament ended, we didn’t drink at any of the meals. Once, over a meal, I told Savior “if you drink, I will kill you”. Savior said “no no, I am not”. I asked him how to say “334” in Korean, he said “Sam Sam Sah.”

Savior is very quiet, and is very calm and steady when he walks. I’ve never seen him run, he’s basically always in the same position. He also wears cologne -_-,

Once, when watching the games live, Savior and I were smoking in the bathroom. One of the show girls [star girls] was adjusting her hair in the woman’s bathroom across the hall, the one who was wearing glasses. Savior tapped me and said “that girl looks pretty,” I asked him “do you like?” He smiled and shook his head, said “no no no, i think you like.” Then I told him if he likes, I will go ask her for her QQ, and Savior said “really?” I said yes, he said “ok,” and then I got her QQ and he actually asked me “how did you do it?” I told him I’m not telling. Then, in the elevator, there was a girl in front of us, and I said to Savior “if you say this girl is pretty…” and he said “nonono,” and worryingly asked me if I was going to ask for her QQ too.

Savior would always go back to the hotel very early, except for the night before the finals. He said Chinese television is good to watch. During practice, I would often say “wo cao” [T/N: "Wo cao" is similar to randomly saying “oh fuck” or “shit."] Savior asked me what “wo cao” means, and I said “when you surprise, you can say wo cao”. Then Savior picked it up and kept saying it…

Before the day of the semifinals against Money and Feng, Savior and I weren’t too worried, because ZP combination would be hard for them to play against us. But Feng and Money both played very well. I know Savior was very nervous in the ZT vs. ZT game, because there was twice when his mouse would move violently, whereas during practice, no matter how badly we were losing, he would always be very relaxed in his control. During the last game, Savior and Money played ZvZ. If the opponents used all their units to attack Savior, he would’ve died for sure, and he said so himself after the game as well, so my Zealots had to leave the base to draw fire, and I traded myself for Feng, and Savior won a 1v1 under very difficult conditions. After it ended he told me it was very dangerous, and told me his hands were shaking while he played.

The night before the finals, Savior and I prepared a lot. He asked his Korean 2v2 specialist friend bul if there are any good strategies on Fighting Spirit (leto is really strong, he’s #1 on Hunter, but only on Hunters), and his friend (bul) told him “Fighting Spirit zp vs zt so easy.” Except for Hunters, where the spawn position and racial combinations are too complicated, we prepared a strategy for every map, which were the same ones we used in the finals. The night before, we practiced with Scan and Fengzi, and they could never win the first game, and only when they knew our strategy in the second game would they be able to adjust to it. We used the same strategy on Iron Curtain four times and they lost three times, so Savior and I were very confident in winning the finals. But even so, in consideration of the atmosphere and pressure of a live game, we were still a little bit worried. We practiced until 2am that night before we went back to the hotel to sleep. Savior told me to relax, and said we will win, and I replied “sure".

On the day of the finals, Savior used his computer to show me a picture of Iron Curtain and explained to me all the different race and spawn point combination subtleties. Honestly we could’ve 3-1’ed, but during the game on Python, Savior forgot to take out jatgirl’s Hatchery. After the game he told me “my miss,” and I told him “is nothing, jia you” [T/N: “Jia you” is like “fighting.”] On Iron Curtain Savior played really well, and taking out a Vulture with two Zerglings is really world-class game sense and control. To be honest, I was unusually calm during the finals, not nervous at all. I just wanted to help Savior and myself get a championship, to allow such an excellent player get the honor that befits him. In the final game Savior had a mis-micro with his first group of Marines, and after the game, he told me he was too excited..so happy.

After the games Savior said “now we can go drink tonight, party.”

Savior was very happy that night, he drank a lot, and when we kept pouring more for him he kept saying “wo cao, I will die.”

No matter what he was doing, Savior was always very deliberate and refined, and he’s very talkative and open...there are a lot of details that are hard to describe individually and comprehensively, I’ll just leave it at an overview.

Source: http://bbs.scntv.com/thread-81965-1-1.html
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#2
very interesting read for sure.
thanks for the translation
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 02 2013 21:43 GMT
#3
Interesting
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia458 Posts
December 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#4
thanks for translations!
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renezerg
Profile Joined May 2007
Peru186 Posts
December 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#5
thanks a lot for the translation
gg
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 02 2013 22:07 GMT
#6
Thanks for translation.
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1208 Posts
December 02 2013 22:26 GMT
#7
Thank you for the translation! It was a good read, and from someone not as judgmental on his past.
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
December 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#8
thanks for the translation
ace hwaiting!!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#9
thanks for translation! A good read imo. Interesting to hear how things went down. Sounds like Saviour is very relaxed in person and in general, nice to speak with. I couldn't help but laugh at this part: I told Savior “if you drink, I will kill you”. lol.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#10
I asked him how to say “334” in Korean, he said “Sam Sam Sah.”


That's kind of funny, if possibly unintentional.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 02 2013 22:38 GMT
#11
He also mentioned something during the live cast that savior had analyzed every single combination in terms of spawn during preparation.

I think that's somewhere in the article as we'll, but I'm on my phone
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
December 02 2013 22:42 GMT
#12
On December 03 2013 07:38 Cambium wrote:
He also mentioned something during the live cast that savior had analyzed every single combination in terms of spawn during preparation.

I think that's somewhere in the article as we'll, but I'm on my phone


Yep

On the day of the finals, Savior used his computer to show me a picture of Iron Curtain and explained to me all the different race and spawn point combination subtleties.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
December 02 2013 22:49 GMT
#13
really interesting to read, thx for translating! :D
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 02 2013 22:56 GMT
#14
MaJaeYoon Fighting!!
why so 진지해?
jhamas
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru22 Posts
December 02 2013 23:16 GMT
#15
gracias por la traducción esperando mas :b

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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
December 02 2013 23:32 GMT
#16
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 02 2013 23:37 GMT
#17
hmm, interesting; thanks for the translation!
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
December 02 2013 23:38 GMT
#18
Haha interesting read
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
December 02 2013 23:48 GMT
#19
On December 03 2013 07:56 Rekrul wrote:
MaJaeYoon Fighting!!

Came here for this, hi Rekrul! =D
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
December 02 2013 23:57 GMT
#20
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