I agree with StorrZerg on the motion of lynching lurkers. Lurkers are as bad if not worse than a mafia player in my opinion since a talkative mafia can give away reads or slip up while lurkers give nothing of use to the town.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 01:15 GMT

#120

Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it...

You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc).

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 01:29 GMT

#129

@cakemanofdoom
You seem to be throwing this blame off of you and onto onlywonderboy. He actually seems to be responding about the post and not to the "accusation" that Storr is putting on Balla. So your play of throwing off the defence of Balla (which you did defend from Storrz comment) and throwing it on onlywonderboy is very scummy to me.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 02:40 GMT

#137

@cakemanofdoom
All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 02:46 GMT

#138

@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 02:56 GMT

#140

Yes I agree with your second point as well. I just gave 1 example that could be possible. Thinking about it now I should have used your reasoning since I agree with it more. But then again this is a newbie game, so it also could be a bad mafia play. I'm just trying to look at it from all sides possible.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 03:36 GMT

#150

I saw storr on the mafia game on the mafiadaily site so his short leave is reasonable. I just checked again and it seems like he is dead now so I expect him to post back in these forums sometime soon or if he is still focusing on that game then in an hour or two max.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 03:39 GMT

#151

At this point I have a large scum read on cakeman. I have put pressure on him and he immediately redirected and pointed a finger (not literally) at someone else. Other than that most of his posts go along the lines of "and what do you think?". He has asked people there opinion about something many times without actually giving anything of worth towards the town.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 05:17 GMT

#161

Exactly Balla, I was just about to post about Tehpoofter. I would like to hear from him, even if he thinks he has nothing to add, it would help town.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 05:55 GMT

#169

@Balla
Fair enough. I just like to hear quiet people talk.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 06:18 GMT

#172

@tehpoofter
Do you have any other reads (town or scum) other than cakeman?

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 06:32 GMT

#174

It's a pressure thing. Nothing really from it. If we had to vote in the next 5 minutes then that would probably be one of my "ok to lynch" people because of the reasoning storr gave.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 07:31 GMT

#180

I'm off to bed and should be back in about 8 hours. Hopefully all the lurkers start posting.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 15:40 GMT

#191

@Jonny
I think if you check my posts it will be very clear that I like putting pressure on people early. I saw what seemed to be a somewhat defensiveness come from cakeman so I pressured him. And I bring nothing to the table is kind probably the most idiotic statement you make, especially since I am the first one to start pressuring cakeman. There was no bandwagon since I was the first on him. You even posted that you thought cakeman is scummy. Your view of him may have changed but remember, once YOU were the bandwagoner, not me. I'm actually not sure how I'm indecisive since I think I pressured cakeman fairly decently.

I also don't know where you get this idea that I'm apologizing. I don't know where this is coming from since I'm trying to re-read my posts and find nothing apologetic about them.

I was actually going to post about thepoofter, refreshed, and saw Balla posted about him already. I didn't like how he brought nothing to the game at that point. He made a few posts and that didn't really have any value in them and then he went away. He came back tho but even his responses of how he thought his beginning posts were pro town seem silly and a stretch since all he talked about was his time zone and length of posts.

Along with thepoofter I would like to hear more from OWB (onlywonderboy). He has only made a few posts which he mentions to lynch lurkers, that everybody should be very active (pretty ironic), and about length of posts. None of this helps out town in my opinion.

I'm not liking nyxnyxnyx kinda jumping on two possible bandwagons and not really giving any genuine new points about any players and just kinda stealing the ideas others have presented and using them for himself.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 15:49 GMT

#192

@Balla
I am not exactly saying that I think you and cakeman are definitely scum together. I just used that as a possible example (which we discussed before). I don't know why you keep saying why I'm tunnel visioning when we already discussed this before and I agreed with your possible angle. It just seems to me like you don't like being possibly associated with a possible scum.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 15:58 GMT

#197

Well you don't have to approach the game from multiple angles. Like I have stated before, I come out of the gates with 1 possiblity and that is everyone can be scum (apart from confirmed) and based on whether they sway me or not they either grow more scummy or less scummy.

And pressuring cakeman is easier done coming from one angle and since I didn't like anything he said further I continued down that point. Why would I retreat and change my point of view when I thought my current pressure was doing decently well?

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 16:08 GMT

#201

Yes, I would hope so, but I am responding to Balla's post above and that is why I had to state that.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 17:08 GMT

#223

OWB you haven't really contributed much to town in your posts. There are also others however you are one of the people that (to me anyways) seems like your posting more about information about how the game should be played instead of playing the game. You have only 1 real post given about some of the reads you might have and that was only that you think nyx is quiet (which all of us know) and you kinda jump on the cake train. You even mention that "There's a difference between posting useful short posts and just spam" (sorry i dont know how to link to the post, I'm TL newbie) yet I haven't seen anything useful about your posts.

Vanesco

United States105 Posts

October 30 2013 17:26 GMT

#234

WHAT??? I am only saying that I am new to TL and cannot post a link back to the post which I am mentioning for convenience sake. But I am not new to the game of mafia and to me it seems like your just grasping for anything that has just happened.

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