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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 24 2013 02:15 GMT
#40
/in

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 24 2013 23:30 GMT
#49
Getting really close. I'm hoping for an active game. If you signed up please contribute.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 25 2013 02:59 GMT
#56
Better out than inactive.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 25 2013 06:25 GMT
#60
So game's full now?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 26 2013 03:47 GMT
#76
Pffffft pb345 scum always and forever. "Lynch owb today, tomorrow and forever."
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 29 2013 00:53 GMT
#85
Hopefully we get a couple sign ups before the day ends and can get going soon. I played a couple games ago and having three mod kills and a replacement is terrible.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 29 2013 19:15 GMT
#101
People outside korea still play sc2? I saw the WCG america bracket and...

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 29 2013 19:56 GMT
#103
Me either but I got to lose to every active member of Liquid on ladder before quitting. That sc2 claim to fame.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 00:43 GMT
#113
Hopefully lynching lurkers doesn't become an issue. I should be around near every voting deadline and in the afternoons and late nights MST. The player's good intentions to have a fun game will prevail (or the bold warning in the OP).
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#118
Balla played in nmm48 with me. As I said earlier, the participation in that game was horrendous. The game ended with 54 pages of content.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 01:21 GMT
#123
I disagree that length of posts matter but posting actively and participating in the game does matter. That could be what he meant just phrased differently. That's exactly what we should be talking about at this point in order to form a plan for finding the scum in the game.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 02:29 GMT
#133
I'll be out for a couple hours but I'll check the thread before I head to sleep. I don't want to clog up the thread with useless posts.

I like storr's abrasiveness early. It moves our discussion along. I want to hear the response to balla's question.

Looking at the TL profiles nyxnyxnyx is the only player clearly marked outside of North America. Make your presence known here town. Otherwise you're going to end up lynched and that's not a great start to the game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 02:34 GMT
#136
Hit post and saw the next two posts after mine. I agree that cakeman's looking scummy in that post. I'm not going to extrapolate until I hear more from him. I want to see his response first.

@cakeman why would that be better? It made the conversation start did it not?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 04:48 GMT
#153
@cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one.

Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him.

@storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 06:35 GMT
#175
On October 30 2013 15:07 Tehpoofter wrote:
I have to say thus far the biggest read I have so far is on Cake. I know its been discussed (but i was afk) my two cents is that his read of storr as being suspicious is off and I have to say he has been accused of being scummy by balla but has yet to address balla in her posts, I find that odd.

@Cake what do you think of balla accussing you of being scummy? You seem to address the other people coming hard on you and I feel like you have gotten a fair bit of heat for day one so maybe it was just something you missed idk just want to hear what you had to say on that.

(On a side not balla I feel like you should change your name to "Bella" because I had it typed in that way in here and on all my notes before realizing my mistake and having to change it all )



Yo don't dismiss storr so quickly. He's done nothing to prove town except participating and probing. We cannot be lulled so easily.

Obzy, this game is not moving quickly as in I cannot keep up with it. It's moving quickly in comparison to other games. I'm hoping the players who are MIA post while I'm sleeping and we can keep this moving forward.



+ Show Spoiler [balla name rant off topic] +
As your side note, people in the last game called him bella also. How in the fuck is bella more relatable than balla? Like "I'm a balla, shot calla" or any other balla reference in the last 20 years from pop culture. I don't get it. Fuck it, I'm derailing this but I just dont get it.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 07:45 GMT
#181
##vote Vanesco

Here's the beginning of the long posts.

Vanesco repeatedly apologizes and brings nothing new to the table. Jumping on with Storr.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote:
Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it...

You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc).



Why so indecisive already? Seems like derailing and pushing towards cake following the trail. Cake looking more like inexperienced town than scum to me.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote:
Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it...

You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc).


Remember he jumped on an EARLY bandwagon.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2013 11:40 Vanesco wrote:
@cakemanofdoom
All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla.



And again so apologetic. If you're not mafia what do you have to hide?

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote:
@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.



There are a couple more apologizing posts then this one jumping on poofter. I'm saying poofter/vanesco are both scum.

[+ Show Spoiler +
QUOTE]On October 30 2013 14:17 Vanesco wrote:
Exactly Balla, I was just about to post about Tehpoofter. I would like to hear from him, even if he thinks he has nothing to add, it would help town.
[/QUOTE]

Show me otherwise.

Do we have a voting thread?

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 07:47 GMT
#182
I want responses poofter and Vanesco. Sleeping and another game are fine since we still have some time before votes are tallied and we lynch.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 20:06 GMT
#262
I'll start with the Cakeman. He's responding well to the pressure. He does not back off or make excuses but brings valid points to the game.

In this post he acknowledges and explains his actions. + Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2013 01:12 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Out of the people who have posted, tehpoofter is the one looking most scummy to me.


I think it's a bit suspicious how he manages to end his real life obligations and post so soon after he was called out for inactivity, but I'll try not to speculate on his real life.

More importantly, I don't like his read on me. I know I've looked suspicious, but not addressing Balla is quite possibly the least suspicious thing I've done. It's not like there's a scummy reason for lumping one attacker with others and addressing them all together.

Even poofter seems to realize that, and backs off a bit by admitting that I might have just not noticed Balla amidst the attacks on me. What's left is a post that accuses me, with a poor new idea. I think poofter was trying to defend himself form the inactivity complaints, and he came up with some random poor evidence to try to show that he's contributing.


I'll agree that Jonny's case on Vanesco was pushing it. Van was definitely not joining a bandwagon; if anything, he started it with decent reasoning. And in all his earlier posts he seemed quite certain that I was scum, not much apologizing. Why push van so hard with a vote and leave barely anything on poofter?



His earlier response addresses his accuser, makes a point and explains himself with confidence. [+ Show Spoiler +
QUOTE]On October 30 2013 15:53 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Not addressing Balla is because I've been trying to address my accusations in general. I only addressed people directly when they directly ask me something or if there's something in a post that confused me.

I think Balla is justified in calling me scummy (though I'm not scum). Van's comment on me defending Balla was inaccurate, so I wanted to correct him. Carelessly, I mentioned owb's post as an example of what I consider defending (actually disagreeing with the one who's doing the questioning) in hopes of making it clear that I was not defending. I can see how that looks like deflecting, and why that looks bad on me.

And then, I was trying to get more people to talk, though that came off as asking people for their thoughts without contributing anything to town. It's just that at that point, from my perspective, no one was acting particularly scummy, so I focused on trying to get people to say stuff that I could make reads with.


Hope my thought process is clear to you all. I'm town, and I know there's not much that I can say at this point to convince you guys of that. Thankfully, we have plenty of time for others to post, so hopefully I'll prove my innocence hunting scum once everyone else starts posting.
[/QUOTE]

He's someone to monitor but I'm not comfortable saying he's mafia at all anymore. Town who started the game badly when very few posts had been made? Sure. Read his filter again and tell me why I should feel otherwise.


I'll get to vanesco and poofter in a minute.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#263
I have no idea what to make of July at this point. Angry town or deflecting mafia? Of all of his posts only the first one addressing nyx says anything. He claims to want his posts to not clutter the forum and be concise and to the point.

He goes on to post five more 1-2 liners that say NOTHING immediately after that post.


E00e worries me a lot. If we don't see more from him I'm down to lynch the semi-lurker as well. A bunch of one liners and saying that I'm wrong. Fine, I'll be wrong but why? And where are the inconsistencies? I explain my reasoning. Granted the reasoning on Van was a stretch.

Rereading Van's filter with fresh eyes I'll back off of him for now. I'm not sold but it's whatever.

@Poofter I want more from you. I said Van was on a bandwagon for cake, when in reality I saw the ordering incorrectly. Cake is an easy target right now it appears. Why do you believe he's scum? Why do you not state any facts and instead have all questions? You're agreeing or disagreeing with others but not adding anything of your own.

##unvote vanesco

And thanks Lonemeow it was late and I missed that part. I was looking for a link to a thread.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 30 2013 23:59 GMT
#278
I'm against lynching Odin, but July, nyx or E00e are good candidates in my opinion.

Guessing which one is scum will be difficult though. Odin has given us nothing to work with but signed up for another mafia game and was decently active in his last game. I'd rather take an educated guess than go off of nothing. If odin doesn't post or vote lynch him day2 if we need.

There are 24 hours to go I want to see what people put out there before the deadline.
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