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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 22 2013 14:06 GMT
#15
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 06:04 GMT
#57
i am here.

ShiaoPi what the hell? Why did you claim vt?
Also everyone shoud be sharing their identity in mason QT's, the people who don't should be killed. If your mason partner does not share their identity kill them. There is no reason not to share that information.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 06:13 GMT
#62
On July 24 2013 15:07 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am here.

ShiaoPi what the hell? Why did you claim vt?
Also everyone shoud be sharing their identity in mason QT's, the people who don't should be killed. If your mason partner does not share their identity kill them. There is no reason not to share that information.


How do you think the QT should be used effectively? What do you think of my thoughts in the other post?

The game has just started. I think the QT's at this point should be used to figure out your mason partner's alignment. Subject to change later on.

You mean this post?
On July 24 2013 14:46 Z-BosoN wrote:
Hey dudes

I think to start things off, I want to implore you to please avoid spam in the thread, and at all costs, DONT LURK. Ima bit traumatized frm nuclear mafia

Also, I would like everyone to comment on this QT mechanic, and how it should be used.

To answer my own question, I am of the view that the QTs should be as active as possible. Each person in the QT should gauge the reaction of their buddy and try to compare the general posting on the thread and on the QT. Its another source of information that should be used.

HOWEVER, the good posts and analysis should be in the thread, where everyone can view the info. Im sure scum would much rather hide behind the QTs instead of posting out in the open, so lets try to avoid that.

For clarity:
Random thoughts, fluff, and other stuff = QT
Cases, relevant analysis, poking and prodding = thread

Thoughts/comments?

I think there should be no random thoughts & fluff. Why do you? Also what do you mean by other stuff?
At this point all analysis should be on thread. There is no reason to be not transparent.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 06:14 GMT
#64
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 06:20 GMT
#68
What do you think of Sylencia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 06:24 GMT
#70
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 07:29 GMT
#77
On July 24 2013 15:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.


Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi?

That's the only thing ShiaoPi has posted, how could anything else be an issue with him?
I know the claim is not alignment indicative in itself, but ShiaoPi's reasons sure are. There is a reason he said what he did, and i want to know what his reasons were.

On July 24 2013 15:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of Sylencia?

Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention?


Sylencia asks people about if mason-partners should reveal their identity to each other. However he himself seems to have no stance on that. That's what caught my attention.

Sylencia: Do you think mason partners should reveal their identity to each other? Why/why not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 08:57 GMT
#80
Lazer, how do you know scum are paired with townies?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:29 GMT
#86
Apparently my mason partner killed me for some reason....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:35 GMT
#87
So in case i die:
raynpelikoneet
07-24-2013
06:28 AM ET (US)

omg. seriously? :EE

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Malongo
07-24-2013
05:14 AM ET (US)
hi Ryan. I am sorry, i asked to get you killed . Nothing personal, i actually didnt knew it was you and just resent a hold up msg a minute ago (trying to revert the hit). ShiaoPis claim is null to me, more likely just a plain townie/dt trying to prevent a hit from the mafia, Z-Boson null for now. I think Lazermonkeys post is more of a threat.

Again sorry if I cant hold the hit, I thought most the guys posting were already on contact (still 5/6 players to post), also thats why I posted "sorry i couldnt resist".

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raynpelikoneet
07-24-2013
02:01 AM ET (US)
hey!
what do you think of shiaoPi's/Z-Boson's first post?

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Malongo
07-24-2013
01:11 AM ET (US)
What is this? I got caught by surprise haha.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:48 GMT
#91
Stupid or scum does not mean i think you are scummy. It means i don't see any reason for you to claim vt as town. I know the claim is not alignment indicative, but your reasons might be. As for your reasons that's the only thing that counts as a good reason for a townie, so no, i don't think you are scum atm.

I'm interested in hearing why you think Z-Boson's post about the claim is any better than mine? Look at what he says:
"
Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

He calls the post pointless and actually for me that bolded line reads he is suspicious of you no?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:53 GMT
#93
On July 24 2013 19:50 ShiaoPi wrote:
but not based on the claim itself. It was based on activity after the claim, a much more solid tell than the claim.
Your "stupid or scum" post is just terribly wishy washy. Why do you feel the need to comment on it anyway?

I wanted you to give your reasons for claiming and i was promoting discussion by hopping on you. I don't know your alignment so there is always the possibility that you just did something stupid as scum and can't explain it. I would have insta-lynched you if you said "because i am a vt" or something like that.

Look at what my pressure on you did? I think both of Z-Boson/FirmTofu's follow up's on this are fishy. Z-Boson somehow thinks i think you are scum. And FirmTofu's actions are already pointed out.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:56 GMT
#95
Oh shit. You actually did say you really are a VT.

##Vote: ShiaoPi
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 10:58 GMT
#97
This is what i mean. Why the fuck should i scumhunt like this:
"Hi ShiaoPi, why did you claim VT? It's scummy or stupid, or maybe you have some sort of a plan, like gauging reactions which is reasonable for a townie to do. Which is it?"

Why the fuck should i give you the answers that are right? What's the point of questions in that case?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:02 GMT
#99
WHY ARE YOU SAYING SOMETHING THAT "DOES NOT MATTER" TO THE GAME?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:06 GMT
#101
I am soon going to write what i think, but you need to answer this first:
On July 24 2013 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what i mean. Why the fuck should i scumhunt like this:
"Hi ShiaoPi, why did you claim VT? It's scummy or stupid, or maybe you have some sort of a plan, like gauging reactions which is reasonable for a townie to do. Which is it?"

Why the fuck should i give you the answers that are right? What's the point of questions in that case?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:10 GMT
#103
Why are you avoiding my question?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:17 GMT
#107
On July 24 2013 20:13 ShiaoPi wrote:
hahahahaha, I am avoiding the question? Are you sure you are reading what I am posting? Even without my claim there was plenty of other possible discussion you could do in thread about usage of the QT for example. Scumhunting in there is something you have done, sure but your reaction to my claim and the subsequent vote now is just terrible beyond measure.

Yes you are avoiding the question.

Another one. Why do you want people to talk about setup rather than other people's actual actions in this game? Setup talk usually finds you scum right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:21 GMT
#109
What exactly about them is more important? And btw i told my stance on the QT's very clearly because i find that discussion irrelevant to finding mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 24 2013 11:42 GMT
#113
On July 24 2013 20:30 ShiaoPi wrote:
Look for example at FirmTofu's posts on QTs:
He first asks questions to the thread in regards to stances on QT (in this case whether or not to reveal you mason partner): but avoids posting this first:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:20 FirmTofu wrote:
I agree with rayn. The claim rubs me the wrong way. I don't understand it.

Where I stand:
People should NOT be anonymous in their QTs. There is no reason to do that.
People should be trying to discern the alignment of their partner, but not to the point where they stifle discussion in the QT. Pressure him, but don't argue incessantly.
People should not tell the thread who their partners are. If the partners are both town, we end up denying scum a TON of useful information by not saying who your partner is. It will also be useful to find mini-mason circles to confuse scum.


Which would instantly clarify his stance in any case. Why test the waters first with questions, if you have already made up your mind? It is scummy to me, trying to blend in with threadflow after asking where it is.

I don't understand a single bit of this post. Are you accusing me of blending in by asking you questions, when i have clearly stated what my thought process was?
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