The 2014 NHL Season - Two Accounts, No Cups

QuanticHawk

United States32027 Posts

July 16 2013 00:37 GMT

The 2013 season ended with the Chicago Blackhawks steamrolling everyone, earning the President's Trophy before defeating the Boston Bruins 4-2 in the Finals. Pattie Cabbie Kane is your playoff MVP. The lockout ended on January 13, 2013, and teams played a 48-game season only against interconference opponents.

Hart Memorial Trophy: Alex Ovechkin (32 G, 24 A, 56 P)
Vezina Trophy: Sergei Bobrovsky (21-11-6, 2.00 GAA)
Calder Memorial Trophy: Jonathan Huberdeau (14 G, 17 A, 31 P)

Goals Leader: Alex Ovechkin (32)
Assists Leader: Martin St. Louis (43)
Points Leader: Martin St. Louis (60)

So what is new this year?

New conferences
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Cap recapture Penalty
Just read this. This is why Kovalchuk's contract was so toxic and forced the Devils to void it rather than fight it.
http://www.capgeek.com/recapture-calculator/

New cap limits: $64.3/44 ceiling and floor, down from $70.2/54.2 last season.

To get to this level, each team is allowed two total compliance buyouts, either this offseason (it is too late now) or next offseason. The league allowed teams a special buyout period before the 2013 season. The Canadiens and Rangers were the only two teams to use the period. The compliance buyout period is over for this offseason.

Player movement:

Compliance Buyouts:
Chicago - Steve Montador (D), Rostislav Olesz (LW)
Detroit - Carlo Colaiacovo (D)
Minnesota - Tom Gilbert (D)
Montréal - Scott Gomez (C; before 2013 season), Tomas Kaberle (D)
New Jersey - Johan Hedberg (G)
NY Islanders - Rick DiPietro (G)
NY Rangers - Wade Redden (D; before 2013 season)
Philadelphia - Daniel Brière (C), Ilya Bryzgalov (G)
Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier (C)
Toronto - Mike Komisarek (D), Mikhail Grabovski (C)
Vancouver - Keith Ballard (D)
Washington - Jeff Schultz (D)

The Fucked Off to Europe List:
Leo Komarov
Alex Burmistrov
Sergei Kostitsyn
Ruslan Fedotenko
Ilya Kovalchuk

Important trades:
The Devils acquired goaltender Cory Schneider from the Canucks in exchange for the 9th overall pick in the draft Sunday

The Stars acquired centers Tyler Seguin and Rich Peverley from Boston in exchange for Loui Eriksson. There were other pieces.

The Senators acquired winger Bobby Ryan from the Ducks for Jakub Silfverberg, some dude and a 1st

FA movement:
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Anaheim
Additions/Re-signings
Ben Lovejoy - 3 years at $1.1M ($3.3M total)
Saku Koivu - 1 year at $3.5M
Matt Beleskey - 2 years at $1.35M ($2.7M total)

Losses

Boston
Additions/Re-signings
Jarome Iginla - 1 year at $6M
Tuukka Rask - 8 years at $7M ($56M total)

Losses
Ference -> Edmonton
Horton -> Columbus

Buffalo
Additions/Re-signings

Losses

Carolina
Additions/Re-signings

Calgary
Additions/Re-signings
Corban Knight - 2 years at $3.75M (EL) ($7.M total)
Chris Butler - 1 year at $1.7M
Mikael Backlund - 2 years at $1.5M ($3M total)

Losses

Chicago
Additions/Re-signings
Brian Bickell - 4 years at $4M ($16M total)
Nick Leddy - 2 years at $2.7M ($5.4M total)
Michal Roszival - 2 years at $2.2M ($4.4M total)
Nikolai Khabibulin - 1 year at $2M

Losses
Emery -> Philadelphia
Stalberg -> Nashville
Olesz -> New Jersey (via buyout)

Columbus
Additions/Re-signings
Nathan Horton - 7 years at $5.3M ($37.1M total)

Losses

Colorado
Additions/Re-signings
Patrick Bordeleau - 3 years at $1M ($3M total)
Nathan MacKinnon - 3 years at $3.775M (EL) ($11.325M total)

Losses

Dallas
Additions/Re-signings
Sergei Gonchar - 2 years at $5M ($10M total)
Valeri Nichushkin - 3 years at $2.125M (EL) ($6.375M total)

Losses
Nystrom -> Nashville

Detroit
Additions/Re-signings
Drew Miller - 3 years at $1.35M ($4.05M total)
Daniel Alfredsson - 1 year at $5.5M
Stephen Weiss - 5 years at $4.9M ($24.5M total)

Losses
Filppula -> Tampa Bay

Edmonton
Additions/Re-signings
Andrew Ference - 4 years at $3.25M ($13M total)
Boyd Gordon - 3 years at $3M ($9M total)
Jason Labarbera - 1 year at $1M
Ryan Jones - 1 year at $1.5M

Losses
Khabibulin -> Chicago

Florida
Additions/Re-signings
Shawn Matthias - 2 years at $1.75M ($3.5M total)

Losses
Weiss -> Detroit

Los Angeles
Additions/Re-signings
Robyn Regehr - 2 years at $3M ($6M total)

Losses
Scuderi -> Pittsburgh
Richardson -> Vancouver

Minnesota
Additions/Re-signings
Nicklas Backstrom - 3 years at $3.4166M ($10.25M total)
Keith Ballard - 2 years at $1.5M ($3M total)
Matt Cooke - 3 years at $2.5M ($7.5M total)

Losses
Bouchard -> NY Islanders
Cullen -> Nashville

Montreal
Additions/Re-signings
Daniel Brière - 2 years at $4M ($8M total)

Losses
Ryder -> New Jersey

Nashville
Additions/Re-signings
Viktor Stalberg - 4 years at $3M ($12M total)
Matt Cullen - 2 years at $3.5M ($7M total)
Matt Hendricks - 4 years at $1.85M ($7.4M total)
Eric Nystrom - 4 years at $2.5M ($10M total)
Seth Jones - 3 years at $3.225M (EL) ($9.675M total)

Losses
S. Kostitsyn -> fucked off

New Jersey
Additions/Re-signings
Dainius Zubrus - 3 years at $3.1M ($9.3M total)
Patrik Elias - 3 years at $5.5M ($16.5M total)
Ryane Clowe - 5 years at $4.85M ($24.25M total)
Rostislav Olesz - 1 year at $1M
Michael Ryder - 2 years at $3.5M ($7M total)
Marek Zidlicky - 1 year at $4M

Losses
Clarkson -> Toronto
Kovalchuk -> fucked off

NY Islanders
Additions/Re-signings
Evgeni Nabokov - 1 year at $3.25M
PM Bouchard - 1 year at $2M
Travis Hamonic - 7 years at $3.857M ($27M total)
Cal Clutterbuck - 4 years at $2.75M ($11M total)

Losses

NY Rangers
Additions/Re-signings
Benoit Pouliot - 1 year at $1.3M
Dominick Moore - 1 year at $1M
Ryan McDonagh - 6 years at $4.7M ($28.2M total)
Carl Hagelin - 2 years at $2.25M ($4.5M total)

Losses

Ottawa
Additions/Re-signings
Clarke MacArthur - 2 years at $3.25M ($6.5M total)

Losses
Alfredsson -> Detroit ()

Philadelphia
Additions/Re-signings
Mark Streit - 4 years at $5.25M ($21M total)
Vincent Lecavalier - 5 years at $4.5M ($22.5M total)
Ray Emery - 1 year at $1.65M
Erik Gustafsson - 1 year at $1M

Losses
Brière -> Montreal (via buyout)
Fedotenko -> fucked off

Phoenix
Additions/Re-signings
Mike Smith - 6 years at $5.6666M ($34M total)
Mike Ribeiro - 4 years at $5.5M ($22M total)
Michael Stone - 3 years at $1.15M ($3.45M total)

Losses
Gordon -> Edmonton
Labarbera -> Edmonton

Pittsburgh
Additions/Re-signings
Pascal Dupuis - 4 years at $3.75M ($15M total)
Rob Scuderi - 4 years at $3.375M ($13.5M total)

Losses
Cooke -> Minnesota
Iginla -> Boston

San Jose
Additions/Re-signings
Raffi Torres - 3 years at $2M ($6M total)
Scott Hannan - 1 year at $1M ()

Losses

St. Louis
Additions/Re-signings
Jordan Leopold - 2 years at $2.25M ($4.5M total)
Maxim Lapierre - 2 years at $1.1M ($2.2M total)
Derek Roy - 1 year at $4M

Losses

Tampa Bay
Additions/Re-signings
Valteri Filppula - 5 years at $5M ($25M total)
Jonathan Drouin - 3 years at $3.225M (EL) ($9.675M total)

Losses
Lecavalier -> Philadelphia (via buyout)
Pouliot -> NY Rangers

Toronto
Additions/Re-signings
Tyler Bozak - 5 years at $4.2M ($21M total)
David Clarkson - 7 years at $5.25M ($36.75M total)
Jonathan Bernier - 2 years at $2.9M ($5.8M total)

Losses
MacArthur -> Ottawa
Komarov -> fucked off

Vancouver
Additions/Re-signings
Brad Richardson - 2 years at $1.15M ($2.3M total)

Losses
Ballard -> Minnesota (via buyout)
Lapierre -> St. Louis
Roy -> St. Louis

Washington
Additions/Re-signings
Karl Alzner - 4 years at $2.8M ($11.2M total)

Losses
Ribeiro -> Phoenix
Hendricks -> Nashville

Winnipeg
Additions/Re-signings
Grant Clitsome - 3 years at $2.066M ($6.2M total)

Losses
Burmistrov -> fucked off

The second most surprising development of the offseason after Kovygate involves one of our very own! JimmyJRaynor/lamprey1 revealed to be the same whacky person!!

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Talk to crazy at your own peril.

SO. To start the discussion:

Biggest winners and losers this offseason?
Preseason predictions?
Most likely team to fall out of playoffs this year, and most likely to get back in?
Favorite new conference?

Slaughter

United States20254 Posts

July 16 2013 01:12 GMT

Ugh lets get to page two asap so I don't have to look at Patrick Kane's dumb face.

I am somewhat disappointed that the Red Wings decided to sign an aging Alfredsson and let the young guy with potential (Brunner) walk. Its not like they are in WIN NOW mode....

nikj

Canada669 Posts

July 16 2013 01:18 GMT

Nice! Looking forward to a full season.

Really hope the Leafs remain a playoff team this year, was nice to watch them in the post season despite their epic collapse.

ii.blitzkrieg

Canada1122 Posts

July 16 2013 01:42 GMT

Nice OP.

I liked most of what Homer did this offseason but seems like it's gonna be the return of the goalie circus/graveyard whatever you wanna call it in Philly. Division D is also kinda cool because you have the old Atlantic division with 3 mediocre teams added to it.

As someone who lives in the Vancouver area and isn't a fan of the Canucks, I am greatly looking forward to plenty of Torts sound bites.

Also Hextall got hired as assistant GM in Philly. <3

Sub40APM

6336 Posts

July 16 2013 02:33 GMT

Biggest winners and losers this offseason?
Preseason predictions?
Most likely team to fall out of playoffs this year, and most likely to get back in?
Favorite new conference?

I'd say Dallas are the winners of the offseason, instantly rebuilding their team now and for the future while moving into the division where they are legitimately a top 3 team, well behind Chicago and St. Louis but onpar with the Mild and the rest of the garbage.

Biggest losers, harder to tell -- as a Red Wings fan I want to say the Wings, they signed a mediocre 2nd center for 5 years and an aging winger and once again are shuffling around their youth in the bottom 6th while their d corps is as leaky as ever. If the Leafs werent their division I'd say the Red Wings will be the team that drops out of playoffs spot but it will be the Leafs, you can bank on it. They will be replaced by the Blue Jackets, whose GM has made a series of moves that are similar to what Dallas is trying to do and undone years of incompetence in a short season -- I imagine most Canuck fans once they move onto their depressive side of their manic-depressive season (look for lots of cup talk in Oct/Nov/Dec before the wheels fall off in Feb when one of the Sedins breaks his foot blocking a shot on a pk) hope they get one of those GMs soon to clean up the mess the alcoholic currently in place has made.

Had Philly not become a train wreck over the last two years and Kovy had not ran away to Europe to get more dirty money, I would enjoy D the most since you have a good mix of established and young up and coming teams. So that makes it A, with 3 good teams, 3 crap teams and two who-the-fuck-knows. Plus, watching the Sedins play 10 minutes a game because they arent back checking will be funny.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

July 16 2013 03:05 GMT

Oh god I missed that, JimmyJ and lamprey are the same person? I actually just argued a point to lamprey, and JimmyJ categorized my words as straw man. I feel like such a fool!

Should be a fun season. Hope we get to see Crosby play healthy, it's been tough to see the league's best player deal with such a nasty injury. Also yea, Sub40, I'll give it until November when the Sedins start getting the Gaborik treatment.

Moving from PHI to SF next month, anyone here a Sharks fan?

Kralic

Canada2628 Posts

July 16 2013 03:11 GMT

Yay another full season hockey thread! Go Wings Go! Thanks for making the thread.

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

July 16 2013 04:06 GMT

I don't think that anyone's surprised that they're the same person. But what about KelianQatar?!

I hope that Gillis does something good soon. Losing Schneider, Lapierre, Mason Raymond and Roy and only signing an at best 3rd pairing defenseman and some 4th liners isn't much fun.

Ferrose

United States11378 Posts

July 16 2013 04:21 GMT

Thanks for the great OP! I too was confused that the Wings signed Alfredsson and Weiss. But we will see what happens.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought lamprey1 was JimmyJRaynor. Lol

Blisse

Canada3710 Posts

July 16 2013 04:57 GMT

#10

On July 16 2013 11:33 Sub40APM wrote:

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Hey dude, you gotta be-leaf. Conference finals this year! :'D we will wipe out the memory of that game 7..

QuanticHawk

United States32027 Posts

July 16 2013 05:34 GMT

#11

Thanks guys. I still gotta update with a real explanation of cap recapture, and i totally forgot i didnt even touch on the new playoff seeding and some other stuff. I'll do it tomorrow sometime. if you think i missed something, say something!

On July 16 2013 13:06 GolemMadness wrote:
I don't think that anyone's surprised that they're the same person. But what about KelianQatar?!

I couldnt get over how gross that pic of Kaner was. I was gonna go with a drunk one but shit son, he looks hammered there

I am a big fan of the new Patrick. I also like B, and would have loved it more if Detroit stayed there, time zones and historic rivalries be damned. I'll give a more fleshed out respoinse tomorrow but I agree, I do like what Dallas did. Detroit, I wouldn't really classify them as losers, but not really winners either. DOnt get giving up on Brunner so early, and they didnt do anything to address the D really. I dunno, they seem that theyre slooooowly heading down a slide to be a bubble team unless they hit gold on some of those young guys like nyquist and tartar.

I think Philly and probably toronto would be my biggest losers. Philly def #1 because I dont understand how you could be that willfully ignorant about your team needs. Toronto felt like they went the rangers circa early 00s route of just doing shit for the sake of doing it. Bernier was the only decent move, but even then, I would have much rather had Schneider than a wildcard with high potential, and he wasnt much more expensive. I hate the Clarkson and Bozak deals.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

July 16 2013 13:29 GMT

#12

I have to disagree with you again, Quantic. PHI got the best forward available, the best defenseman available, and a cheap but decent goaltender. There are a lot of ways for them to be cap compliant on day one, and then by using LTIR on Pronger they will have plenty of wiggle room. There were no high-quality goaltenders available. And the success of many teams shows that you don't need stellar goaltending to be a cup contender.

Toronto, OTOH, lost two of their best and youngish players, and signed a decent 3rd liner to 1st line money, and are treating Bozak like he can actually play as 1C. I agree that those contracts are awful, and those are far more detrimental to their team than what the Flyers did.

Flaccid

8828 Posts

July 16 2013 14:25 GMT

#13

Awesome OP =)

Also, JJR has at least one other account as well.

It might
be one
that posts
like this.

Also, cupz.

edit: FFS 6000th post?

monx

Canada1400 Posts

July 16 2013 15:21 GMT

#14

IMO Boston and Chicago could still be the two favorite yet again this year. Boston has improved imo with the coming of Eriksson. Horton and Seguin wont be missed imo and Iginla could spark some lines.

Have no clue what to think about my Habs after the signing of yet another small forward. Hopefully MAB hasn't finished his work. I really hope we get rid of Pleky or Gionta (because we all know DD is untradable) so the youngsters can grow properly.

QuanticHawk

United States32027 Posts

July 16 2013 15:28 GMT

#15

On July 16 2013 23:25 Flaccid wrote:
Awesome OP =)

Also, JJR has at least one other account as well.

It might
be one
that posts
like this.

Also, cupz.

edit: FFS 6000th post?

it was destined to be either a dick joke or a hockey post

also yes, if it wasn't obvious enough, KelianQatar is jimmy too. If a each word in a handle is two syllables or less, posts about conspiracies and talks like Flaccid's examples, it is Jimmy. i am still not chaning my awesome thread title

On July 16 2013 22:29 sharkeyanti wrote:
I have to disagree with you again, Quantic. PHI got the best forward available, the best defenseman available, and a cheap but decent goaltender. There are a lot of ways for them to be cap compliant on day one, and then by using LTIR on Pronger they will have plenty of wiggle room. There were no high-quality goaltenders available. And the success of many teams shows that you don't need stellar goaltending to be a cup contender.

Toronto, OTOH, lost two of their best and youngish players, and signed a decent 3rd liner to 1st line money, and are treating Bozak like he can actually play as 1C. I agree that those contracts are awful, and those are far more detrimental to their team than what the Flyers did.

Philly had absolutely no need for another forward. That was just a silly signing. I also really dont think he was the best forward avaiable due to his age cost and general ability at this stage in his career.

Streit is no where near the player he was a few years ago, and he was never particularly good in his own end, which is where philly's weakness is. Furthermore, I beleive that's an over 35 contract, and it's a hell of a lot of money for a guy who is an offensive defensemen and ok in his own end. It doesn't really address a need.

Emery was protected by a team that was good enough to get the president's trophy, and he played limited games in a back up role. He was never really close to legit #1 guy, even when he was healthy. He's also got wonky Bo Jackson hips, and needs 2 hours to stretch even if he is just backing up. He's going to die on the ice if he gets more than 35-40 games, and that means Mason is getting starts which is bad bad bad. Furthermore, you had Bernier and Schneider out there for very reasonable prices, and if you wanted to go full retard, Lu was out there. The only positive about this is that it is very low risk, unlike the other deals Homer signed.

Also, for the teams that prove you don't need stellar goaltending to win, they do have something else: a very good defense, and philly's is no where near that, even with streit.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

July 16 2013 16:05 GMT

#16

Philadelphia just likes having all the forwards I guess. Lecavalier should still be a productive, if not tradeable, player by the end of his contract. Streit's contract probably carries two years of 3rd-line usage. It was definitely a year or two too long, but isn't that bad in comparison to some of the other deals thrown out there.

I do agree that it's unlikely that PHI wins a cup with this defense, but it's not unfathomable to make the playoffs and win a few rounds. There is concern about Emery for sure, I guess it's just me being an optimist about his injury history. Bernier isn't exactly a sure thing either. He has a very small body of work, and got a big payday based on potential. No one saw the Schneider deal coming. PHI could have offered the 11th pick and something valuable, which would be much more enticing than just the 9th pick for sure (although VAN was nuts about Horvath). PHI wasn't the only team that missed out on Schneider's availability, VAN messed that up by not shopping him.

My hope for the goalies is league-average.

Nowhere near as bad as Toronto's moves. Nor as baffling as Nashville's absurd signings of more 3rd line players.

crazyweasel

607 Posts

July 16 2013 17:16 GMT

#17

NJ is done this year i don't see them going far with clarkson and kovalchuk gone, 2 players michael ryder can't replace.

So boston has iginla jagr and erikson? omg... why

this years is the SEN'S year. with karlson and spezza back + bobby ryan added to the team holy shit

tampa is gonna look good with Valteri Filpula in the mix(even tho they still have no defense whatso ever)

QuanticHawk

United States32027 Posts

July 16 2013 17:22 GMT

#18

Vinny got a NMC along with his deal that was way too long for too much money. He's already 33, on a noticeable decline. That's just silly for a team that had no need for another forward, esp since he's not gonna last more than a year or two in the top 6 because philly has a bunch of good young players that should be getting that time. Esp since Philly is going to have a hell of a time making the playoffs in their new division. (i do gotta update the op with the new playoff seeding)

As for Emery, there is a very definite reason why he came as cheap as he did. At least it is low risk like I said, but people aren't expecting much. Bernier, 2.9/2 is hardly a risk at all and he has high potential. Philly cant afford that because they're filled with horrid contracts and luxury items like Vinny. If you don't sign him, put any of those talented kids in a top 6 role, boom you got him. Bernier's trade wasnt even that much. Backup goalie, marginal player, and a 2nd. And Schneider being available had been out there for a bit because eveyrone knew Lu was untradable. The fact that lots of other teams made offers and Homer didn't know he was avaiable or didnt care speaks volumes about his ability as a gm.

I really dont know why youd reasonbly hope for league average goaltending. For all his faults, Bryz was lightyears better than mason, and def better than emery. He just had a horrid contract. That d, if it got better, it is marginally so, and not because Streit is that good but because most of the guys there are that bad.

I certainly wouldnt call nashvilles signins absurd. they filled needs, and they didnt grossly overpay. they could have used a legit top line forward, but i think by sheer virtue of not paying someone like Clarkson first line money to play like a third liner, they won.

I dont know if id say philly or tortonto was worse, but i do know that toronto at least made the playoffs last year, even if i think they benefited from variance on a short season, and theyre definitely in better position than philly to make again this year. As much as I dont care for Toronto's D, theyre much better than what philly has, and their goaltending situation is much much better.

ninini

Sweden1204 Posts

July 16 2013 18:22 GMT

#19

The new groups are insane. I don't get what they were thinking. I think they just wanted Detroit in the same group as Toronto, and then did what they could to make it work, even if it meant breaking the balance between the west and east, and putting the sunshine state teams in the canadian group.

Anyway, I don't know why I'm complaining. This doesn't concern my team, San José, in fact they will be favored by a smaller western conference, and the new group will grant them many free wins against Edmonton and Calgary.

Also, I still can't stop laughing about Toronto paying 5.25M per year for 7 years for David Clarkson, that's just hilarious. It's especially funny considering it makes his replacement in New Jersey, the old shark Ryane Clowe, at 4.85M times 5 look like a steal, which he wasn't.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

July 16 2013 19:39 GMT

#20

Agreed on Lecavalier as a luxury. Perhaps Holmgren/Laviolette still don't trust Couturier when they absolutely should be playing him 16-18 minutes per night.

As to Schneider's availability, I don't think Holmgren is the only one who missed the boat. TOR, TB, NYI all could have offered more than the #9 pick. I would have preferred to get Bernier and take the risk for sure. But having Emery/Mason as a one-year alternative is preferable to Boucher/Leighton! Although I'm sure I'll be eating my words by February the way it always seems to go.

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