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Hi all, RoL has dragged me out of my mafia slumber to be his little slave for this game.
I sort of skimmed/read through so I apologize if something is off.
@gumshoe
Why are you so adamant on people masoning you? I mean obviously you think you are town, but it seems a little much to expect people to just trust you?
@layabout
Little weirded out that you said:
On July 18 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:
I think we should lynch vivax today.
I will explain why in like 2 hours.
And then...
On July 18 2013 09:58 layabout wrote:
vivax you only had 3 wall for me to read when i said i would write a case. But now it would require way too much effort on my part with no real benefit.
So 5 hours after the first post, and 3 hours after you said you would deliver... you did not deliver and says it's too much effort. What is no real benefit? That town gets an analysis of someone being town or mafia?
re: raynepelikoneet
Does raynpelikoneet always just straight up say they have a read on 13/18 people? And I mean already proven wrong on VE being scum... >_> I don't know how rayn plays and I get the impression that they're pretty veteran/good from what people have been saying in the thread so I'm a little confused here. Straight up claiming day 1 is a little shifty... Oh wait, he claimed something he can't prove, how nice. And then immediately is like, heyyyy, "This makes me think scum have one too." That's a lot of information for a very short first post.
That sounds a lot more definitive than what VE said which is "Role /= Alignment. Just FYI, Ver is a huge proponent of this axiom and even if I confirm my role that shouldn't confirm my alignment. Just sayin."
Then again rayn just seems overly cocky about things (ex. VE being mafia) so I'll take the definitive attitude with a grain of salt. Also he's in the mini mason circle (rayn, gumshoe, oats, DrH) so I'm not voting for him until further examining the circle's activities.
Also, fwiw: Rayn posts end at ~4, and then posts at 6:58, RoL posts event at 7:04, Rayn jumps in at 7:12 going HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME IM TOWN AND HERE ARE PEOPLE I CLEARED. That certainly can line up with Rayn gets online, tells RoL to silence himself, and then goes all LOLOLOL LOOK IM TOWN.
Everything just feels a little much. Immediate claim to be like hey I'm town I'm claiming a role that can't be proved. And then EVENT to be like hey I'm DEFINITELY town now.
Re:VisceraEyes
VE claiming at least makes sense because he was at risk of being lynched and I'm not sure why people didn't just let him live 'til Day 2 to use his vigi (case 1: he doesn't shoot we lynch him 1 day late whoop dee doop; case 2: he shoots wrong target because he's mafia, 1 for 1 is not a bad trade for town this early; case 3: he shoots town's chosen target and we got an extra day lynch from it, can argue about whether he's mafia or town vigi afterwards) Why is it always so hard to do anything based on common sense in mafia?
So looking at the voting patterns on VE:
oats - pretty early on, never changed, did not post post-claim pre-lynch, he went to bed at 2:30 and then didn't post until 10 hours later. I mean I don't care if oats sleeps 10 hours or went and did other things but the night before his last message was at 1:34, and he was back at 9:23 with a reasonably sized post. You'd think close to lynching time would be more important. Though he did say pretty definitively he was going to bed and he was pretty sure VE was scum and that was that.
gumshoe - swapped after VE claimed America
sloosh - voted for VE before claim, did not see posts after claim
yama - voted for VE before claim, did not see posts after claim
FT - switched from DrH to VE 1 min before VE claimed America, then unvotes post-claim
Ace - votes for VE after VE claims America
SnB - votes for VE after VE claims America
layabout - votes for VE after VE claims America, then switches to MZ
kholly - votes for VE after VE claims America, then switches to MZ, and then votes for VE 3min before deadline
(lol all 3 people who mason'd VE voted for his death)
Yeah so VE got himself killed... that's really confusing... so I assume he didn't see kholly's vote change. So in the perspective of both players:
VE - 5, 6, 5 -> 5, 5, 6 which makes sense, he voted for MZ over Sloosh, he wanted to change his vote and influence the lynch
kholly - 5, 6, 5 -> 6, 6, 4 which is a tie... whatever that means for the game. He MAYBE could have known VE was going to switch after since they are in mason contact, but that seems really unlikely we're talking like 5min total here. So he made it a tie between VE and Sloosh, so he doesn't want Sloosh to get lynched?
@Ace
Wtf Ace I don't get it. I never really got you, you made weird decisions before when we played and I'm too lazy to check if you were town or mafia then. I agree claiming is stupid, but VE at least has a provable claim whereas rayn just looks like way too many coincidences. Why did you vote for VE after he claimed America?  Especially emphasizing that if he claimed dayvig we should lynch him.
To people in general:
I haven't been playing for a while, curious if someone can give me a quick rundown of "good" players. Not asking for town or mafia read, just curious who are perceived to be veterans or skilled players and who's new around here.
Please confirm that there is no rule about mafia having only 1 mason and town having 2 (I remember someone saying that). I say that because if that's true I could probably math up a strategy to pull out some mafia very easily.
I've spent already too much time on this post instead of work... Hi again everyone. =P
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rayne:
So you publicly say you're going to mason someone. Immediately claim to them with your oh so amazing townread on them, and then claim to town with no provocation whatsoever 30min afterwards. I don't see the point of doing that. You just made the most useless claim possible because you can't prove it.
Also none of your actions clear you. It's not like gumshoe is now not going to claim to you because you got silenced. You did something that delays you getting information at worst, and makes you look very clean at best. If you're mafia and gumshoe claims something important to you, killing him still draws suspicion to you, and not killing him means knowingly leaving a strong role around. At best the rest of the mafia has to push for his lynch, because you sure as hell can't with that oh so amazing townread on him. But no, if you got silenced, there's no possible way you betrayed gum, you're so town, it must be because the mafia was suspicious of gum being important after you publicly told everyone that gum is going to claim to you. Oh and gumshoe wasn't exactly happy you painted a giant target on his head, was that intentional too? "less thanks for mentioning the claim stuff...that was kinda private."
Oh, how convenient, you were asleep. You saying you would've totally pardoned VE doesn't mean shit and you acknowledge that right? Because at lease VE acknowledged that hey, role != alignment and you're being all just saying, I would've pardoned him, give me townie points for something that has absolutely no value.
At this point my read on you is basically that you are a cocky person (oh look at all these reads I /totally/ know and all these snap decisions I instantly made), you're either really smart or you're just doing random dumb shit as overeager town. At this point I would like to hear from players who have played with rayn in the past re: whether you think rayn is capable of that. And if rayn is not, is it likely for someone else to be smart enough to orchestrate that as mafia and have rayne carry it out like that. If you guys believe it's highly unlikely, then okay, you're just an overeager townie and I'll keep that in mind when reading your posts. =P
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@gumshoe
Why were you so adamant on people masoning you? I mean obviously you think you are town, but it seems a little much to expect people to just trust you?
Repeated for people who are confused about VE's voting
Yeah so VE got himself killed, which makes zero sense, so I assume he didn't see kholly's vote change. So in the perspective of both players:
VE - 5, 6, 5 -> 5, 5, 6 which makes sense, he voted for MZ over Sloosh, he wanted to change his vote and influence the lynch
kholly - 5, 6, 5 -> 6, 6, 4 which is a tie... whatever that means for the game. He MAYBE could have known VE was going to switch after since they are in mason contact, but that seems really unlikely we're talking like 5min total here. So he made it a tie between VE and Sloosh, so he doesn't want Sloosh to get lynched?
On July 18 2013 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can prove my claim if needed. Why are you saying it can't be proved? Why would i need provocation to claim an anti-town role in thread as town? Assume for a second i am town, do you think it was wise for me to claim or not? Did you read the part in me/Oats logs where i said "if i hadn't claimed a possible rolecop + scum pardoner will fuck me up".
I mean, you /could/ prove your claim, at the cost of delaying a lynch. And you also agree that it's bad for the pardon to be used... sooo no not really you can't prove it.
No I didn't read it, the logs were too long and there were too many things to catch up on. >_> Read it now, but honestly you seem to be throwing a million roles out there as your assumptions. You think if you didn't make this much commotion mafia would just randomly role-check you? Oh and you think mafia have a pardoner...
If you were mafia, AND there's a mafia pardoner (I'm not convinced that's a thing you seem to think there's one of every role or something) I don't think you're the pardoner. A role claim as a mafia only proves that someone on the mafia has that role, not that you personally do. And taking this much heat as a plain mafia goony I think is perfectly fine for the potential benefits of being super green/blue. You claimed the most undiscussable role, don't think there's much unnecessary attention on that. Also if you're going with scum doesn't like unnecessary attention then hey, if anyone is scum they should just get in giant fights in town. Good tip rayn.
What's wrong with sharing claims with Oats? Like you said, if he can find out in other channels, then you're just further greening yourself, not really actually contributing. I'm still a little worried about your actions. It's one thing to be like yeah okay I'm cocky I say things for certain when I don't mean them, it's another thing to go INSTA-READ GREEN GG we're now bffs Oats. As a side note, you claiming all this expertise in PM land makes me want to mason you way more than gumshoe who is over there like LOOK AT ME GUYS MASON ME.
Oh no, you're so good at PM style games and then make such a huge slip on gumshoe? Do you usually just get all omg let's post everything in the thread especially if you think the people you are talking to are town?
Interesting, you claim to be capable of playing this well as mafia. But you wouldn't do it because you wouldn't do stupid things. I find your actions more stupid from a town perspective than a mafia perspective, for what that's worth. Especially given your slip up with gum.
@layabout
On July 19 2013 01:39 layabout wrote:
@slOosh dont ask dumb questions
@koy there is no point posting analysis at that time because it's too late to start a wagon and vivax was leaving and i didn't feel like anyone was listening to me.
You going to post that analysis now? Don't make promises you don't plan on keeping if you're town... Someone might not have looked closely at Vivax because you said you were going to do it. Also up to now you still haven't given your read on Vivax, you think Vivax is scum or not? That analysis would be a good start to you posting stuff that's actually useful.
Re:Ace
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ace is probably town idiot. Doesn't matter if he plays this blatantly enough noobies eventually start a bandwagon because they get provoked. I would strongly suggest keeping Ace around and not lynching him anytime soon.
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Alright I'll mason you tomorrow if you're alive rayn. If not I'll mason you Helvetica. If only for old times sake and because you're lonely. =P
Your last paragraph on rayn makes sense to me Helvetica. I'm personally not sold on this whole mafia volunteering as little information as possible thing, because that seems like an easy trade. Unverifiable information/information town could reasonably get anyways doesn't cross someone off as scum on my list. I mean Rayn could tell his mafia buddy FT et al. to accuse you instead. But at this point I've basically resigned to Rayn is not /that/ good as why he is town. >_>
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I'm totally listening to that song right now because of you Ace, thanks.
Also wtf yeah gumshoe why were you so harsh? o-O I was merely asking why you were pushing for people to specifically mason you when they didn't know who to mason, instead of their most town read for example. I have no idea why you would react that harshly towards me because of such a simple question. >_<;;
Also I never said Rayn was my scummiest read. I just found his play very weird and wanted to get a better understanding of why he did certain actions because I would not have done so in his position if I was town.
Also please don't be a hypocrite. Telling me that calling townies bad (I said he was either really good scum or a bad townie) when you literally say "as scum or town you are the worst kind of player" and you're the one saying "pretty much extrapolates my being incompetent from a single thing that they personally didn't like or found distasteful." I never said you're incompetent or even remotely hinted at it, I merely asked you a question.
No I don't have a case against you, I was never trying to make one. Why the hell are you putting quotes around something I never /ever/ said?? I NEVER said I didn't like you, I NEVER said you had no mason buddies. What the fuck. I never wasted space posting this, I spend 2 lines asking you a question, and now you flipped your shit at me...
What I'm saying with the VE lynch was that 1. VE did not try to kill himself (duh) he was just picking MZ over Sloosh, 2. knolly probably didn't know that VE changed his vote that late (I didn't see your post when I posted mine and even refreshed after) so I don't think it was to kill VE. Last minute votes are always going to be heavily scrutinized and that's about the stupidest way you could try to kill day vigi as scum. (Personally I'd probably just AFK after the claim so I didn't have to change my vote from VE, or after enough momentum builds on MZ come in and say oh no guys we can't lynch VE #unvote)
Again I don't know why you have so much disdain for me for the 2 lines of text I wrote, as a question, directed to you. D: There's no reason for this kind of language "want me to respond to some idiotic far fetched idea of yours" and assume all this shit when I was just asking a question. Holy shit.
"Other wise give your posts to somebody who actually knows whats going on, cause you clearly dont."
"but please for the love of Palmer stop calling people who you think are townie bad, you damage him and yourself when you do so and you risk more worthless posts."
Are you fucking serious gumshoe? I would like an apology for your hypocritical ass.
And yes, this post is mostly fluff and directed at gumshoe because I am slightly emotionally distraught at this shit. It's been a while since I've played mafia, I come back and some guy calls me completely fucking useless from 3 posts and a question I directed at him. I'm not going to use up 10 posts tonight, so yes I am going to use 10% of my posts to talk to you gumshoe because as a human being you have upset me. >_>
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Yay. *hugs* I'll comply with your SnB question then gumshoe.
"If you want to be useful answer me this, What do you think of S@B and his post flip distinction of those who voted because of Ve's claim and those who voted in spite of it (him being in this second category which is supposedly less bad according to him)
Uhm, I read SnB's post regarding his vote on VE. It didn't make a lot of sense to me... I would've accepted I was "busy" with my girlfriend and didn't check the thread before lynch. But instead he sticks to saying he wants to lynch VE, and claiming didn't change that. I mean, wat? -> "I mean, I don't think his claim was a good reason to not lynch him. Claiming is just something that VE does, it's not a reason that he's scum. "
@SnB - So uh, did you want to lynch VE or not after knowing he claimed? xD
gum I would say SnB looks scummy if he's had a record of playing some games (I don't like passing judgement on weird behavior if it's new players or chez). I didn't really get any content out of his posts, like pointing out Ace policy lynching. Felt like he got suspected, backed off, got some people back on his side, and then went back to his old ways.
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o-o;; Does Vivax go insane much? It's kinda weird...
My current scum reads (before we see night actions) is layabout
Did that weird thing with claiming he'll give analysis on Vivax. He seemed pretty adamant on VE until others seem to go to MZ and then he finally switches after saying "MZ is being an openly anti town useless douchbag. must ... resist ... urge ... to ... switch"
Doesn't really back up his claims, just throws shit around. "slOsh's attitude really does not fell like the attitude of somebody that is trying to find scum. I think he is deliberately overlooking stuff that should be obvious." Can you explain what he is deliberately overlooking? I'm not saying I think sloosh is innocent or guilty, I just think you should back up your claims.
Also he just accused 4 people in 2 posts with very little content, might be traitor trying to provoke people to see if he can sniff out who the mafia are.
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ROL IM SORRY I WONT DO IT AGAIN
Uhm, sorry I don't want to circlejerk but I don't think that clears rayn 100%, that is all. xD I will be masoning him today.
The hiro kill strikes me as really weird... maybe a vet got a good read on him, but he was completely off my radar.
I messaged RoL asking but just fyi: Does the bodyguard show up as died in place of X when he protected someone? Or does it just show up as bodyguard has died either way?
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Uh... wat.
Ace - Can you tell us more about your role? Is it alignment only? Is it role and alignment? Is it role only? (I mean you said guilty, you didn't say exactly what)
Also why are you claiming right now? With PM and enough people already doubting FT in the thread there's no reason to reveal yourself...
Uhh also why did Malongo say FT and then Ace said "good enough guess" and then voted for FT... This all looks rather fishy. >_<;;
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On July 19 2013 14:42 kholly wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 14:41 Korynne wrote:
Uh... wat.
Ace - Can you tell us more about your role? Is it alignment only? Is it role and alignment? Is it role only? (I mean you said guilty, you didn't say exactly what)
Also why are you claiming right now? With PM and enough people already doubting FT in the thread there's no reason to reveal yourself...
Uhh also why did Malongo say FT and then Ace said "good enough guess" and then voted for FT... This all looks rather fishy. >_<;; What if he is just a voice for the real detective?
Then he can answer those questions for the real detective as well... I don't see what you're asking kholly.
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Hey guys, how do you feel about asking vigilante (if there is one, because I'm not rayn and I don't assume everyone has a role =P) to vigi FT?
Scenario 1a:
Lynch FT, FT is scum, continue scum hunting.
Scenario 1b:
Vigi FT, FT is scum, fast forward scum hunting process.
Scenario 2a:
Lynch FT, FT is town, panic and confusion ensues, DrH commits seppuku, fingers of confusion point towards Ace and we get to do night actions and wait to decide if we lynch Ace tomorrow.
Scenario 2b:
Lynch FT, FT is town, panic and confusion ensues, DrH commits seppuku, we get down to business on Ace and lynch him today/he talks his way out of it and we lynch another likely mafia target.
Feels like we speed things up either way and killing off FT would let us focus on "normal" mafia hunting instead of this clusterfuck of Ace claiming. Thoughts?
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On July 20 2013 10:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Let's look at our possible lynches today.
FirmTofu - I'm town. Ace lied when he said he checked me. DrH is the only one with a case against me.
Ace - MZ says he checked Ace and got SK
Vivax - kush says he's mafia according to what someone said in a PM
kholly - chez who is playing like mafia chez
Oatsmaster - rayn says he knew too much information about Gumshoe's death.
I would be willing to lynch kholly or Ace. I'm leaning toward Ace because SK is far more dangerous than potential mafia and we can always lynch MZ if he lied.
Hmm let's see...
FirmTofu - You claim you're town, that's nice. Ace probably lied, that's nice too. Still weirded out by the fact that you say DrH is the only one with a case against you, so he's the only one that deserves to get you killed? Also pretty sure last time I checked one case is enough, if enough people are convinced. Forget this whole Ace/FT shenanigans there's plenty of evidence to lynch you without that.
Did I miss the part where you and MZ are total bffs? MZ says he checked Ace and that's immediately accepted? Also SK is not an immediate lynch target is it? If there's people who actually look really scummy, like say, you, then we should probably lynch you first.
I guess I also missed the part where you were bffs with kuch. Closest thing I would say is layabout was claiming he was going to make a case against Vivax, and then just completely dropped that claim. layabout is completely unmentioned by you.
kholly - Sure whatever.
Oatsmaster - Same deal as Vivax, not sure how they magically made it to the possible lynches list. It's like you took everyone who even had a finger accidentally pointed in their direction.
(MZ) - oh wait, you didn't put your bff on this list? Oh wait, it's another FirmTofu no guys he can't be scum because that other guy is scum (Ace).
(SnB) - he was on your scum list, don't see him on this list. Why the sudden change of heart? There's enough other people who think he's scummy and should be lynched. Side note does nobody else notice the ##kill thing? xD Like, we're just completely ignoring that or what? Or we waiting to see what mods say first?
Why so scummy FT? :3
[[Don't mind the tone of voice in this post, it was for artistic flair. Not claiming it was good, just saying, it wasn't like, I'm mad at chu or nething. =P ]]
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On July 20 2013 11:47 FirmTofu wrote:
I wasn't saying these were good lynches. I was merely mentioning the people with the most votes that had a case on them. This was supposed to be a concise way to organize the information we have at hand.
DrH is the only one who's made a case on me. That is a fact. I never said that he is the only person who deserves to get me killed. Why are you twisting my words and making it sound like I'm saying something that I'm not?
Killing SK would reduce the kills per night, meaning that one less town player would die every single night. This would give us a huge advantage moving forward. Of course the SK is a priority. If MZ is lying about his claim, we can always lynch him.
Ace lied, but fessed up to it. This makes me even more convinced that he was trying to pull some big play as SK to try and be confirmed town.
SnB is on my scumlist, sure, but like I said in my post, I was more sure of my town reads than my scum reads. I'm willing to change my scum reads based on new information. I don't see why you would expect me to remain stagnant.
Yes like I said, pardon the dramatic flair. I just mean you seem so set on DrH being the ONLY one having a case on you. Like if anyone else votes for you you'd claim that they don't have a case. Doesn't really matter, I'm not going to argue with you about lynching you.
Fair point didn't think about the KP thing just thought mafia worse than SK. Though arguably SK could help town if it's leaning towards town losing, and maybe at least kill off some inactives. (I suspect Hiro might be killed by SK since I don't think anyone was paying any attention to him)
I didn't realize that was a vote tally and you were talking about that, not your proposed possible lynches. My bad. So uhm, we lynching MZ now? xD
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Hey MZ, you going to explain why you lied about Ace being SK? If you're going to say you were trolling, you better give a good reason.
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On July 20 2013 13:10 FirmTofu wrote:
Ignore everything I ever said ever. I've been playing terribly this game. I need some time to go over the new information and hopefully I'll come to my senses.
I will be back later. If I run out of posts, I'm going to ask rayn to relay information from my pms to him to the thread.
I repeat, my scumreads are probably wrong.
Uhh, you originally put MZ on the town list. And now that he lied about checking Ace you think he's lynchable but then now you're backing off on that as well? MZ lynch seems pretty straightforward to me.
Fine, everyone is going to be a wuss then I'll start the vote on MZ. It will stay there until he explains himself on why he lied about checking Ace.
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On July 20 2013 16:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
There is no SK role in the game. When I said I had a check on Ace it was just continued banter that we'd been having all game, however FT jumped all over this "check" and instantly believed it and was even willing to lynch Ace because of it. This is not a townie response. The correct response would have been to ignore me, the second most correct response would have been to try and continue scum hunting rather than get caught up by a possible SK. SK's are simultaneously great for scum and a bane for scum. They allow mafia to go after anti town factions in order to appear green while at the same time they can potentially NK scum team members. This is why it is always a good scum strat to try and get the SK lynched. Get town cred and stop him from shooting you.
There's no SK, it's in the OP. FT's reaction to my "check" was waaay too off for me.
Okay can we stop with the shenanigans? Baiting is nice and all but town just turns into a giant clusterfuck, there's enough things to analyze and talk about without everyone throwing in their shenanigans at the thread. If you want to do that go scumhunt in PM land, and come back to town where you have evidence.
How do you know there's no SK role in the game? The OP says 6 mafia 1 traitor. It didn't say there are no neutral roles. Were you in PM contact with Ace?
Uh yeah FT should jump all over the check Ace accused him of being mafia and wanted to get him lynched. If he's town he obviously thinks Ace is scum. If he's mafia, well it makes sense to think as town and try to get Ace lynched pretending to be innocent. Pretty straight forward.
Why would the correct response be to ignore you? You claimed to know some information, why would it be correct to just ignore it?? Second most correct answer sounds like the same which is to ignore it and then scum hunt. Uh, like FT said a possible SK is KP, well let's just ignore that kind of stuff. We're not talking about whether we want to lynch Ace, we're talking about just IGNORING THE WHOLE THING. No, that's not the correct response.
SK would shoot people who don't matter, and then shoot either towards town or scum depending on which side he thinks is winning. Hiro seems like a good SK target, he wasn't very active and nobody was suspicious of him (I don't remember if he himself made any strong accusations either).
Your plan is waaaaay too off for me. Try to make a better plan next time if you're going to add shenanigans.
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I really need to catch up on work I've been slacking since RoL has gotten me to join this game. I'll definitely be back way before the day ends, I've only skimmed through Vivax's arguments so far, but at least he seems sane again. xD
For convenience for now:
1. Ace
2. Kushm4sta - 15/20 posts, mostly short
3. VisceraEyes
4. layabout - ZERO POSTS DAY TWO
5. Mr.Wiggles - 1/20 posts, said he was in PM land before
6. strongandbig - 7/20 posts, hasn't posted since he shot Ace
7. raynpelikoneet - 17/20 posts, looking for post donations
8. Meapak_Ziphh - 13/20 posts, mostly short
9. Vivax - 7/20 posts, giant posts of content :3
10. FirmTofu
11. VayneAuthority - 16/20 posts
12. kholly - 14/20 posts
13. Korynne - 9/20 posts
14. Yamato77
15. gumshoe
16. sandroba
17. Adam4167 - 5/20 posts, gone to a wedding
18. Koshi - 7/20 posts
19. Oatsmaster - 3/20 posts
20. HiroPro
21. Marvellosity - 10/20 posts
22. DoctorHelvetica - 8/howevermanyDrHdontgiveafuck posts
23. slOosh - 4/20 posts
24. Malongo - 3/20 posts, 1 was just a song
Hey not bad in terms of activity. Soft prodding layabout, wiggles, oats, sloosh and malongo. Obviously post count isn't everyting since there's PMs, hence soft prodding.
[[This is a for convenience post (like Malongo's), and more of a hey I wanna hear more from people so I have something to analyze when I come back later.]]
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Sloosh
- Can you post your logs with SnB?
- Can you post your reads? Give as much reasoning as possible, but given how afk you'd been I don't expect Vivax style posts.
I feel comfortable lynching Sloosh if he doesn't respond.
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On July 21 2013 08:36 kholly wrote:
The point I'm making is that those are brilliant questions to ask but that last statement allows Sloosh to live by not responding. You need to be more threatening. If he doesn't post the PMs, he is dead!
I said I'm comfortable lynching him if he doesn't respond. Not sure how that let's him live by not responding. Also I'm not the threatening type. Feel free to take my words and do the "threatening" part. 
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Don't think there's enough people to lynch anyone other than sloosh at this moment so *twiddles thumbs.*
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