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Admin Clarification: MLG WCS AM Challenger Quals

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MLGAnnouncements
Profile Joined February 2012
United States95 Posts
May 05 2013 01:17 GMT
#1
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
May 05 2013 01:20 GMT
#2
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 05 2013 01:22 GMT
#3
Thanks for the clarification, good luck in the future
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#4
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

Show nested quote +
MLG terminated the admin

Show nested quote +
terminated

Pretty drastic measures.


Depends on what the admin's history with MLG, as well as his prior performance. But MLG has already taken a lot of heat for poor admins, and changing some of the people causing all these problems is a good start.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
May 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#5
Drastic measurements :/

But Very nice to see a quick announcement regarding the incident!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#6
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

Show nested quote +
MLG terminated the admin

Show nested quote +
terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.
Refer to my post.
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#7
You made the best call in a pretty tricky situation. Shame there was a mistake in the first place to cause it all. I still think killing the admin was a little harsh though.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#8
On May 05 2013 10:23 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.


Depends on what the admin's history with MLG, as well as his prior performance. But MLG has already taken a lot of heat for poor admins, and changing some of the people causing all these problems is a good start.


On May 05 2013 10:22 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:22 hitpoint wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411129
MLG terminated the admin

Admin was terminated LOL


Some guy made a mistake and lost his job. Not funny.


"Terminated" could be interpreted in a .... sinister way, let's put it like that




That said it's good to see they're at least doing something about this whole mess. Rather than just spouting the usual "we'll do better next time etc" bullshit.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
May 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#9
terminated...?
im confused
nothing
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#10
Pretty shitty situation because I don't think there is a fair way to resolve it without at least one player getting shafted.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
dddoushio
Profile Joined November 2012
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 01:26:35
May 05 2013 01:25 GMT
#11
On May 05 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.


Not doing your job properly makes you lose it, nothing wrong with the community reaction.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 05 2013 01:26 GMT
#12
The Sundance Solution a.k.a "I fired that guy".

It does sound like they killed him remotely or something, to be honest.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 05 2013 01:26 GMT
#13
On May 05 2013 10:25 dddoushio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.


Not doing your job properly makes you lose it, not community overreaction.

Well I should hope so, yes.
Refer to my post.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
May 05 2013 01:28 GMT
#14
On May 05 2013 10:26 StarVe wrote:
The Sundance Solution a.k.a "I fired that guy".

It does sound like they killed him remotely or something, to be honest.


When Sundance says he fired them what he actually means is he fired them into a volcano.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 05 2013 01:28 GMT
#15
On May 05 2013 10:25 dddoushio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.


Not doing your job properly makes you lose it, nothing wrong with the community reaction.



the thing thats so odd about this situation is that its not even that simple. in case of making a mistake i would be against firing someone for a first time problem. but the time and date notifications were emailed, which means he went out of his way to misinform a player of the situation... ;/
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
May 05 2013 01:31 GMT
#16
Sucks for Miya. Hope things like this are avoided in the future.
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 01:32:49
May 05 2013 01:32 GMT
#17
On May 05 2013 10:24 Yorke wrote:
You made the best call in a pretty tricky situation. Shame there was a mistake in the first place to cause it all. I still think killing the admin was a little harsh though.



That poor MLG admin :-(

Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 05 2013 01:34 GMT
#18
On May 05 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.

yeah or possibly they fired him for not doing his job properly

as if TL or Reddits reaction got an unnamed admin fired lol
Maruprime.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 01:38:00
May 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#19
On May 05 2013 10:34 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:20 Cokefreak wrote:
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Today during the MLG operated WCS America Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier, a situation arose due to an MLG admin error that warrants clarification. Players involved included Miya, Demuslim, Moosegills, and Sasquatch.

After having a Bye in Winners Round 1, Miya showed up to his Winners Round 2 Match late, resulting in MLG admins making him forfeit the match and instructing him to play a Losers Round 2 Match against Sasquatch. Miya went on to beat Sasquatch.

Shortly after Miya’s victory, MLG was notified that Miya had shown up late to Winners Round 2 due to an MLG admin providing him with an incorrect start time for his match. MLG immediately retracted Miya’s Winners Round 2 forfeit to give him the Winner's Bracket placement he deserved.

Miya’s manager advised Miya to accept his Winners Bracket forfeit feeling that any other outcome would be unfair to Demuslim and Moosegills, the other players involved in the subsequent matches.

After Miya conceded the Winners Round 2 victory to Moosegills, MLG let all Miya/Demuslim/Moosegills/Sasquatch results stand. The current bracket is available here.

Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.

We apologize to the players and those impacted by the admin errors.

MLG terminated the admin

terminated

Pretty drastic measures.

TL seems to overreact to just about everything and demand people lose their jobs.

yeah or possibly they fired him for not doing his job properly

as if TL or Reddits reaction got an unnamed admin fired lol

That's 2 people now. I didn't mean to imply that MLG fired somebody because of TL, if that's what people interpret from my post. What I meant was that it's interesting how people bitch and demand people lose their jobs when shit happens, but when somebody actually loses their job, it' suddently "whoa, that was a bit too far". I don't support firing people, just to note.
Refer to my post.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
May 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#20
are MLG admins actually paid or are they volunteers?
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