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yeeshdontjudgeme
Profile Joined August 2012
146 Posts
May 06 2013 23:27 GMT
#181
On May 07 2013 04:25 freeamount wrote:
A: Why are there lots of problems in WCS NA?
B: It is MLG.
A: Oh. It makes sense.


At least it's the only North American league that's reliable (or alive) nowadays. At least it's one of the few leagues that consistently pays out prize money on time. At least it's one of the few leagues where you don't hear about "money problems" all the time. Be grateful and quit acting like you'd do a better job.
I'm a strict equalist. If a female wants to be treated equal to men, then that smack they just delivered will be returned promptly.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
May 06 2013 23:34 GMT
#182
On May 07 2013 08:27 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 04:25 freeamount wrote:
A: Why are there lots of problems in WCS NA?
B: It is MLG.
A: Oh. It makes sense.


At least it's the only North American league that's reliable (or alive) nowadays. At least it's one of the few leagues that consistently pays out prize money on time. At least it's one of the few leagues where you don't hear about "money problems" all the time. Be grateful and quit acting like you'd do a better job.


NASL has done the best job with WCS so far, excluding GSL of course.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 00:01:45
May 06 2013 23:59 GMT
#183
On May 06 2013 18:00 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 07:50 BronzeKnee wrote:

Terminating one bad admin isn't going to solve a bad system, because people make mistakes. MLG should be looking into a system where they can correct mistakes before they change the outcome of the bracket or decide games, rather than retroactively punishing people for human error. Be proactive MLG.

Having a bunch of admins running around making calls without anyone to double check them is asking for errors like this. From what I recall, MLG had lots of problems at their live events with admins too.

Terminating one bad admin isn't going to solve a bad system, but it will solve stupid ridiculous mistakes like this. Whether you like it or not, people who ruin their job rather than successfully performing their duty, get fired. I'm sure you have a job irl right? Try doing the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do. If you're a waiter, tell all your customers that the food sucks balls. Tell them that the food is free when really it's not. Or try telling them that you close 2 hours before you actually do.
Your manager will fire you for failing to do your job properly.

This is life my friend.

Now, about MLG having a failure of a system is still truth, but it has nothing to do with an admin getting fired. In fact, some higher ups need to get fired if they keep making terrible decisions. The thing is, they won't be fired because they are higher ups. Nothing we do will make MLG change what they do. They just need to fuck up enough times to finally adjust enough to get it right. Ruining a bunch of people's careers isn't really a big deal to them. So long as they have a decent "end result", they will feel satisfied.

Even after the massive amounts of complaints, they still barred Comm from participating. They don't really care because they feel that they are right even if they are wrong.


I don't disagree with the firing at all. But like you said some higher ups need to get fired too, because they are the ones that put the system into place that failed. Human error needs to be accounted for, you can't simply expect human errors to not happen. Instead put in a system where it takes multiple people to make the same mistake before something bad happens (ie pair up admins as I said). Had someone double checked the time that the admin gave Miya, this whole fiasco doesn't happen!

Unfortunately, you are also correct that higher up won't get fired, so MLG will always be MLG. Oh well.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
May 07 2013 18:26 GMT
#184
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.
Thank goodness he wasn't executed.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 19:07:16
May 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#185
On May 05 2013 10:17 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Additionally, MLG terminated the admin who originally supplied Miya with the incorrect match information.


Way to tread your admins, one mistake, boom fired. Seriously?
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 07 2013 20:10 GMT
#186
On May 07 2013 08:34 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:27 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 07 2013 04:25 freeamount wrote:
A: Why are there lots of problems in WCS NA?
B: It is MLG.
A: Oh. It makes sense.


At least it's the only North American league that's reliable (or alive) nowadays. At least it's one of the few leagues that consistently pays out prize money on time. At least it's one of the few leagues where you don't hear about "money problems" all the time. Be grateful and quit acting like you'd do a better job.


NASL has done the best job with WCS so far, excluding GSL of course.

Honestly NASL hasn't had to do anything. They decided to run a stream showing some of the games (and they did that damn well) but they have had absolutely nothing to do with organising it.
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