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Admin Clarification: MLG WCS AM Challenger Quals - Page 5

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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 05 2013 04:24 GMT
#81
On May 05 2013 13:21 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 13:11 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 05 2013 12:49 Bogeyman wrote:
Actually the term "terminated" is kind of vague in my mind. It may just be that the admin lost the position as admin, and got to work as something else. "Fired" to me would have been more clear. But whatever, I'm sure they won't clarify their clarification.

Terminated is the correct professional term for fired. There really should not be any confusion about this.

No... the professional term for fired... is FIRED, or let go, just the fact that you have to word it differently in order to explain it proves how damn confusing it is

Well a contract gets terminated, a person gets fired. So its just poor wording, either it should say the admin got fired or his contract got terminated.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 05 2013 04:27 GMT
#82
On May 05 2013 13:24 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 13:21 Integra wrote:
On May 05 2013 13:11 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 05 2013 12:49 Bogeyman wrote:
Actually the term "terminated" is kind of vague in my mind. It may just be that the admin lost the position as admin, and got to work as something else. "Fired" to me would have been more clear. But whatever, I'm sure they won't clarify their clarification.

Terminated is the correct professional term for fired. There really should not be any confusion about this.

No... the professional term for fired... is FIRED, or let go, just the fact that you have to word it differently in order to explain it proves how damn confusing it is

Well a contract gets terminated, a person gets fired. So its just poor wording, either it should say the admin got fired or his contract got terminated.

So what you are saying is that, his contract got suspended and the amin got terminated?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2013 04:31 GMT
#83
On May 05 2013 13:11 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 12:49 Bogeyman wrote:
Actually the term "terminated" is kind of vague in my mind. It may just be that the admin lost the position as admin, and got to work as something else. "Fired" to me would have been more clear. But whatever, I'm sure they won't clarify their clarification.

Terminated is the correct professional term for fired. There really should not be any confusion about this.

No, this TL, were people are confused by professional things and don't get that a business does not say "We fired someone" in a press release. There was part of me that expected someone to complain "Why didn't they tell people which admin it was so no one else hires him?"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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iG.EdIsOn
Profile Joined November 2011
China15 Posts
May 05 2013 05:12 GMT
#84
I think this excuse is ridiculous. Coz the things that about when to play and how to play had already been set up in MLG's website.
http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/tournament/wcs-america-challenger-league-/rules
As a player, u need to see it as earlier as u can and keep it in mind.We didn't have any admin come and tell us when to play and how to play.We are always following the rules.So,i think this is Miya's fault,he can't blame others.
And i feel sorry for the admin who was terminated......u got nothing wrong with this.
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diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
May 05 2013 05:18 GMT
#85
If MLG fires someone everytime they mess up something with WCS AM they are going to be understraffed people quickly...
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 05:21:51
May 05 2013 05:20 GMT
#86
Poor Moosegills. Probably really fucked with his mindset. Guy is tied 1-1 with Demuslim in the biggest game of his career, suddenly he's told he has to go back and play Miya. Demuslim, Moosegills and Sasquatches mindsets all get fucked up cause of this.

MLG made the wrong call here, 100%. Thankfully Genna made it right, as she always does. This should of been no question, and wasting time on it is stupid. You don't go fucking back in time in a tournament. Making 1 person suffer for an admins mistake is better then making the rest of the bracket suffer.

Shitty situation, no doubt. One that MLG didn't only create themselves, but also managed to bungle in the handling off.


Also, it's Miyas responsibility to know what time he plays. It was labeled clearly in several places...just asking the admin is not the way to go about this. :/ I like Miya a lot as a player, but this mistake was on him as well as the admin.
Dracid
Profile Joined December 2009
United States280 Posts
May 05 2013 05:30 GMT
#87
On May 05 2013 14:20 Bonkarooni wrote:
Poor Moosegills. Probably really fucked with his mindset. Guy is tied 1-1 with Demuslim in the biggest game of his career, suddenly he's told he has to go back and play Miya. Demuslim, Moosegills and Sasquatches mindsets all get fucked up cause of this.

MLG made the wrong call here, 100%. Thankfully Genna made it right, as she always does. This should of been no question, and wasting time on it is stupid. You don't go fucking back in time in a tournament. Making 1 person suffer for an admins mistake is better then making the rest of the bracket suffer.

Shitty situation, no doubt. One that MLG didn't only create themselves, but also managed to bungle in the handling off.


Also, it's Miyas responsibility to know what time he plays. It was labeled clearly in several places...just asking the admin is not the way to go about this. :/ I like Miya a lot as a player, but this mistake was on him as well as the admin.


Um, no. In no way can you put responsibility on Miya in this situation. If a player is unsure for whatever reason about what time he needs to play, asking an admin is the obvious choice, especially if English isn't their first language.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 05:33:18
May 05 2013 05:30 GMT
#88
On May 05 2013 14:20 Bonkarooni wrote:
Poor Moosegills. Probably really fucked with his mindset. Guy is tied 1-1 with Demuslim in the biggest game of his career, suddenly he's told he has to go back and play Miya. Demuslim, Moosegills and Sasquatches mindsets all get fucked up cause of this.

MLG made the wrong call here, 100%. Thankfully Genna made it right, as she always does. This should of been no question, and wasting time on it is stupid. You don't go fucking back in time in a tournament. Making 1 person suffer for an admins mistake is better then making the rest of the bracket suffer.

Shitty situation, no doubt. One that MLG didn't only create themselves, but also managed to bungle in the handling off.


Also, it's Miyas responsibility to know what time he plays. It was labeled clearly in several places...just asking the admin is not the way to go about this. :/ I like Miya a lot as a player, but this mistake was on him as well as the admin.

The admins are there because bracket times can change by a minutes notice and that the info on the web pages simply can't keep up with possible re-schedules, if anything the admins are the most reliable source of information a player has regarding match times and so forth.

How was he even suppose to know what source was bad and which was good? Was it the admin, the written pages on the website, or are they all correct or maybe they are were wrong? How you can blame this on the players is beyond me.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 05 2013 05:34 GMT
#89
On May 05 2013 10:24 tozi wrote:
terminated...?
im confused


what you did ? shot him ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
May 05 2013 05:35 GMT
#90
firing him seems a bit harsh, unless this wasnt his only mistake
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
May 05 2013 05:38 GMT
#91
Drastic measures indeed!!! But really classy of MLG to admit their mistakes!
Galatians 2:20
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
May 05 2013 05:48 GMT
#92
insta terminate. Swift justice.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 05 2013 05:58 GMT
#93
We don't know the history of this admin, but i would imagine that MLG wont fire some one for a single mistake and that perhaps this person already had a history of mistakes before this so firing him or to terminate his contract seems a legit choice.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
May 05 2013 06:06 GMT
#94
Hope they at least let his family live. Vince McMahon approves of MLGs decision.

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
May 05 2013 06:10 GMT
#95
what a bus
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kabi
Profile Joined July 2011
Argentina22 Posts
May 05 2013 06:23 GMT
#96
And then miya lost on the loser bracket to TOP
Now its the time for regret, if he hadn't accepted the forfeit he could have played against demuslim.
Even if he lost, he would have gotten an easier opponent.

Basically MLG got Miya to lose his spot on the challenger league.
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
May 05 2013 06:24 GMT
#97
On May 05 2013 14:18 diophan wrote:
If MLG fires someone everytime they mess up something with WCS AM they are going to be understraffed people quickly...


Two casters + Sundance to run the entire WCS murika. Could work.
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 05 2013 06:34 GMT
#98
On May 05 2013 10:26 StarVe wrote:
The Sundance Solution a.k.a "I fired that guy".

It does sound like they killed him remotely or something, to be honest.


We... took care of that special problem of your's.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 06:35:21
May 05 2013 06:34 GMT
#99
edit: wrong thread
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
May 05 2013 06:46 GMT
#100
I blame Blizzard for this fiasco as well.
It feels like every week MLG has another issue with WCS that already happened back in NASL S1.

While we all suffered through that back then, NASL learned from their mistakes. Now it is MLG's turn to make them and we are all suffering again.
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