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zcki
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway58 Posts
May 05 2013 09:11 GMT
#121
I feel that MLG wants to just point the finger at someone so they won't get the blame.

Admins are instructed in a certain way, and i'm sure there is a line somewhere that if you're late for a game and you haven't been able to contact the opponent in X time it's marked as no show, otherwise it will delay the brackets too much. I don't see how an admin could come up with this stuff on his own. Not really sure if this admin messed up or was it panic decision to revamp the brackets.

Atleast the players that aren't qualified for this season will know better then to sign to NA qualifiers rather then EU, latency might screw you up but atleast system isn't working against you.
Wisdom is a quality that keeps you from situations where you need it.
hoburame
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands48 Posts
May 05 2013 09:15 GMT
#122
Now, This is proffesional.
Admin should not make such big mistakes.
I like the measure.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 05 2013 09:19 GMT
#123
I like this new approach when someone do a mistake they get fired. Sundance when you out of a job you can message me. I'm sure I can find something for you to do
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
May 05 2013 09:32 GMT
#124
You are pro, you have an issue, you need to make a choice. Good job by MLG on this one.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 09:59:16
May 05 2013 09:58 GMT
#125
As many others have said, it was not really possible to resolve that situation without screwing someone. The reaction here is so much biased by the people involved, that it sickens me. It would be the other way around if we would switch Miya and Demuslim's places.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
May 05 2013 10:08 GMT
#126
On May 05 2013 18:58 grs wrote:
As many others have said, it was not really possible to resolve that situation without screwing someone. The reaction here is so much biased by the people involved, that it sickens me. It would be the other way around if we would switch Miya and Demuslim's places.


I completely agree with this. I oftentimes feel that this forum is strongly foreigner biased. If Miya and Demuslim switched places, there would definitely be a heavy outroar here, especially since Demuslim is one of the few competitive foreigners left in WCS NA.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 10:22:05
May 05 2013 10:21 GMT
#127
So did you bury the terminated admin or make it look like an accident?
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
May 05 2013 10:35 GMT
#128
I've heard from unreliable sources that Angel Munoz is now hiring the NASL Sound-Guy, MLG Admin-Guy and ESEA Rogue-Programming-Guy to set-up a new Console FPS World Tour called the Starless League sponsored by Bit-Coins Mining unlimited.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
May 05 2013 10:38 GMT
#129
Whoever was in charge of the admin should have made sure he was doing his job properly and knew all the times. The guy in charge of the person in charge of the admin should have made sure he was doing his job properly.

So I blame MLG and their poor chain of command. A quote from my dissertation because I can.

"These Shinto beliefs are still present in Japan to this day. Most businesses are set up using a hierarchy. Even though positions of power are still highly respected the unfortunate circumstance that something goes wrong would evidently mean the collective is to blame. 'For example, when Japan's famous Shinkansen (Fig. 1.3) "Bullet Train" is late, every employee from the engineer to the conductor, hostesses, and ticket sellers feels responsible and will apologise profusely to delayed passengers. Once atonement is made, the shame ceases and the burden it imposes is lifted.' (Littleton 2002 p.59)."
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 11:07:15
May 05 2013 11:00 GMT
#130
I think that MLG should stop DQ'ing and issuing forfeits to players so quickly and take their time to resolve these things instead of making what seems like snap decisions. This isn't "Gamebattles" anymore. This is the WCS America Premier & Challenger leagues we're talking about. You shouldn't run it like you would run a weekly online cup.

In other words, I don't care what the official "Gamebattles" rules are that they've been using. They need to exercise some judgment and bend the rules a little when they need to be bent, and make sure they're making the RIGHT judgment calls, so that Comm doesn't get DQ'd one round before qualifying for Premier League (and now he's not even going to be in Challenger League). And so that Miya doesn't get DQ'd for showing up late to a match - I'm thinking they could have delayed his match and tried to contact Axiom's management, aka Jenna Bain (or alternately, TotalBiscuit). This is not some random Diamond NA Protoss player in the first Premier Qualifiers we're talking about (that's me, by the way...). This is Axiom.Miya, Korean pro on a foreign team.

MLG, please slow down and consider the bigger picture?

EDIT: I just read Genna Bain's account of the situation. It changes some of my assumptions, but anyways, if you want to read it it's here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=411147
Plat Support Main #believe
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
May 05 2013 11:02 GMT
#131
On May 05 2013 19:35 Rustug wrote:
I've heard from unreliable sources that Angel Munoz is now hiring the NASL Sound-Guy, MLG Admin-Guy and ESEA Rogue-Programming-Guy to set-up a new Console FPS World Tour called the Starless League sponsored by Bit-Coins Mining unlimited.


We need that guy who hosted the Philippines tournament in on that action too
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
May 05 2013 11:16 GMT
#132
MLG killing an admin cause he gave a player the wrong starting time?
gotta love america
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 05 2013 11:22 GMT
#133
so MLG admins are AIs, that would explain the lack of common sense.

Sad that someone lost a job though. And really unfortunate that no one payed attention and woke Miya up in time.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 05 2013 11:24 GMT
#134
Why do you make it public ? Oh I know ...
Terran & Potato Salad.
vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
May 05 2013 11:27 GMT
#135
MLG strikes again. Do they just walk on the street and randomly hire people? Can't wait to see what the next fail from them will be, so gentlemen place your bets.
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
May 05 2013 11:32 GMT
#136
On May 05 2013 19:38 Littlemuff wrote:
Whoever was in charge of the admin should have made sure he was doing his job properly and knew all the times. The guy in charge of the person in charge of the admin should have made sure he was doing his job properly.

So I blame MLG and their poor chain of command. A quote from my dissertation because I can.

"These Shinto beliefs are still present in Japan to this day. Most businesses are set up using a hierarchy. Even though positions of power are still highly respected the unfortunate circumstance that something goes wrong would evidently mean the collective is to blame. 'For example, when Japan's famous Shinkansen (Fig. 1.3) "Bullet Train" is late, every employee from the engineer to the conductor, hostesses, and ticket sellers feels responsible and will apologise profusely to delayed passengers. Once atonement is made, the shame ceases and the burden it imposes is lifted.' (Littleton 2002 p.59)."

We clearly don't have the information needed to make such conclusions. For all we know, the admin giving incorrect information might have just brain farted at the moment he wrote the message to Miya, and actually knew the correct time. Those in charge of the admins should of course check up on them regularly, but there's a limit to the degree they can micro manage.

It's not up to us to blame anyone until we have sufficient information to do so. Maybe they fired the wrong guy, but we don't know that.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 05 2013 11:59 GMT
#137
Did skynet send someone back in time to terminate the admin?
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
May 05 2013 12:03 GMT
#138
must feel bad to be terminated lol
dddoushio
Profile Joined November 2012
81 Posts
May 05 2013 12:42 GMT
#139
On May 05 2013 20:59 phodacbiet wrote:
Did skynet send someone back in time to terminate the admin?

they sent sundance with a bb gun
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
May 05 2013 12:46 GMT
#140
Terminate him! noooow! lol
Currently working with Team Acer CSGO | @AcerNervO
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