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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 15:36 GMT
#5
Oh a framer, what fun! I like.
/in
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 29 2013 16:12 GMT
#8
On March 30 2013 00:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wtb 16 players. Or 25. Madness!

Oh 16 would be fun! Can we do that? (25 seems a little much for a newbie game.)
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 30 2013 04:14 GMT
#20
On March 30 2013 11:57 Rainbows wrote:
/in

Gl Rainbows. I wanna go try playing with WoS, cause their game is bigger and has more stuff!

/out
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 30 2013 04:15 GMT
#21
/obs instead
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 03 2013 05:03 GMT
#45
/backin

taking a little long than I wanted for the normal Tl mafia to start and I suppose I will do this one sense its my last one anyways.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 03 2013 18:04 GMT
#58
Just remember, Nobodywonder is always scum and thus willspend the first two days fighting off being lynched or will be lynched. If he makes it past day 2 he'll be fine though.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 03 2013 18:50 GMT
#62
On April 04 2013 03:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Hai folks, reporting in as town coach for this fine game! Townies and blue roles, feel free to PM me (on TL.net or #tlmafia IRC) for coaching and advice.

Coaching can either be done by PM or on a private QuickTopic thread - let me know your preference.

Things I will help you with unconditionally:
  • "I'm lost! What do I doooooo?!?!?"
  • How to establish yourself as town
  • How to defend yourself from attacks
  • Persuasive writing and proofreading posts
  • How to pressure a player
  • "What questions should I be asking?"
  • ...and more... just ask!

Things I will help you with moderately:
  • "How do I scumhunt?"
  • "Am I justified in suspecting this player?"
  • "Did I write a good case against this player? Why?"
  • "Who should I use my Cop/Medic/Roleblocker night-action on?"

Things I will not help you with:
  • Allignments of specific players.
  • My reads on specific players.
  • Antagonizing other players.
  • "How do I make my e-penis larger?"
  • "What race should I play in Starcraft 2?"

When in doubt, just ask. There's very little that I won't help with to some extent, and the worst I can say is "no comment" =)


Will you tell me how to pick up the ladies using my new found Mafia godlike powers?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 04 2013 01:59 GMT
#73
On April 04 2013 07:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 06:21 Saraf wrote:
On April 04 2013 05:14 Smancer wrote:
On April 04 2013 03:50 TheRavensName wrote:
Will you tell me how to pick up the ladies using my new found Mafia godlike powers?


Just go up to any woman at all and say something. She will instantly think you are scum. This is woman policy. Even if you are, play like you are town. Get your wingman DT to return a town read, and build your case until you get her to ##Unvote


But what if you are scum? Should your wingman fake claim, or would it be better to bus your wingman for town cred?

Dudes bus their wingmen all the time, the women are pretty good at catching on to it nowadays.

Gotta keep to some old-fashioned trickery if you're really scum. Fakeclaiming should work better, but eventually she'll find out the setup and then it's gg.

What if I'm third party?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 04 2013 07:03 GMT
#76
On April 04 2013 15:44 nobodywonder wrote:
Lol just watch get vanilla be scummy I die or win by killing teh haters

I will cry if I go into non newbie games with no experience outside of vanilla townie.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 04 2013 16:21 GMT
#78
On April 05 2013 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
Slight note, I changed the deadline time. Game should be starting in about 8 hours at deadline time.

So its still 20 EDT or does the op need to be changed?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 01:46 GMT
#128

Huh.. and here I thought it was a joke that NMM XL was going to be a theme written just for fat jokes.

On April 05 2013 09:45 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 09:33 Moloch wrote:
On April 05 2013 09:28 Rainbows wrote:
Okay enough guys.

##Unvote


Anyone who's here right now I want to give me their opinions on a statement.

--- I don't want to talk about policy. You can policy me this or policy me that, or raise me a lynch-all-liar policy, but I don't want to hear it. Your policy is your own. Enact it when you see fit, if at all. Don't spew it in the thread incessantly to act like you're contributing or it's the 'must-do' in a mafia game.

If you want to override this and go on with it, fine with me. Whatever you feel is best.


I'm fine with you telling everyone why you're doing everything. If you try to implement a policy that you want everyone in the game to follow it exactly, you'll probably get people complaining since not everyone wants the same thing.


My point. Keep in mind the following question isn't policy-based.

Let's say we have this one guy, super emotional, yelling at people, voting all over the place. Call him guy A. Guy B is cool, suave, making decent points here and there, voting is in line with his thinking. Guy C is hardcore lurking are barely here, but won't get modkilled because he votes. Guy D is kinda wimpy, and sheeps cases but is also hard to read.

Who do we lynch?

How is this question answered without bringing policy or meta into this, which you said you wanted to avoid?

Anyone but A. If its far in and no scum has been lynched, B is probably a scumie taking control. Otherwise, C or D. A(s) tend to just be stupid or newbie people in these games.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 01:50 GMT
#129
On April 05 2013 10:29 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:13 jrkirby wrote:
##Vote Rainbows

I think he's just trying to jerk us around here and distract us. If he's fat, he doesn't have much info yet and wouldn't make so many wild accusations so quickly.


I'll take this as an answer: "Guy A"

Doesn't he need to jump around before hes a Guy A?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 02:39 GMT
#132
On April 05 2013 10:59 Rainbows wrote:
I meant that I was guy A :p

Raven!!! All the other shenanigans doesn't matter. How are you?


Not happy actually. I feel pretty sick, today is the first day I've been able to stay up for more then two hours after my classes.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:10 GMT
#136
On April 05 2013 11:53 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 11:39 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:59 Rainbows wrote:
I meant that I was guy A :p

Raven!!! All the other shenanigans doesn't matter. How are you?


Not happy actually. I feel pretty sick, today is the first day I've been able to stay up for more then two hours after my classes.


I see I see. You scum today? Or just roll dat VT again?

I'm a serial killer.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 03:19 GMT
#139
On April 05 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 12:10 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:53 Rainbows wrote:
On April 05 2013 11:39 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:59 Rainbows wrote:
I meant that I was guy A :p

Raven!!! All the other shenanigans doesn't matter. How are you?


Not happy actually. I feel pretty sick, today is the first day I've been able to stay up for more then two hours after my classes.


I see I see. You scum today? Or just roll dat VT again?

I'm a serial killer.


I'm a super miller/Godfather/jailframer

Why is one of those a real role?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 10:29 GMT
#190
God I must be feeling poorly when my first thought of waking up at 5:30 AM is to read the entire thread and try to figure it all out half awake. But, lets see where it goes.

Rainbows I have a question for you because I know you hate talking about policy.... why did you bring up a situation in vague enough terms that it had to be answered with policy and not answer it yourself? Its rather unlike your past games (I also know you hate Meta analysis.).. PS:Saraf called you an idiot and an asshole, who just MIGHT be a townie too but think its unlikely. Not really the best lynch reason.

Jampi: Why are you calling Rainbows out for policy lynching? He seems to have made it pretty clear he hates policy discussion in general, and he has yet to really use it in any of his previous games.

Jrk: Postig at random people is actually how rainbows plays. Look at the previous two newbie mini games for proof of that. Do you have another scum read? Or is the phrase other guy just referring to the lurkers?

Obzy: DO not go down the road of assuming everyone is town because no one is objecting to them being town. We made that mistake with rainbows last game and it cost us so badly. ALWAYS assume everyone is scum until they give you a really really good reason, which you should only share if your confident enough in your read to help defend them, and even then.. you need to hold them to the same degree of suspicion as your scum reads. You need to compare them to the results and look at who they are going after and make sure your not getting fooled.

Alot of people are calling Rainbows out for spammyness, but it seems quite a few other people are spamming pretty hard themselves, see the discussion on lurkers killing all of the drones and bio before people have even had 24 hours to get into the thread (I think jarjar still the only person who hasn't posted sense he /ined, so I would say theres only one real lurker.) and mentions of Rainbow's role claim last game by Obzy for examples. Just going to toss this out there: Come up with more then just spammyness by the end of day 1, sense he did get the discussion ball rolling at least.

Now back to sleep before I have to go to class.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 05 2013 18:06 GMT
#214
On April 05 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:

Nobodywonder

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 16:03 nobodywonder wrote:
Well I can't say scum for sure, but I definitely don't like it.

Rainbow votes Smancer. Then Rainbow unvotes, then talks about his policy that there should be no policy and that everyone has their own policy. Rainbow then brings up a policy scenario. Well, he states it isn't policy based. Well to me, it sounds like it is, since a policy defines a set of actions in response to certain behavior. I don't know that Rainbow would bring a policy question and call it not policy, seems like he's cautiously gauging townie response and the town meta.

Honestly, I want a response from not only Rainbow but also Smancer, since to me, it's interesting that Rainbow voted Smancer, unvoted Smancer and then voted Smancer again. In response Smancer had voted Rainbows and then unvoted Rainbow. I just a lil' weirded out by the voting trend.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a little meta thing, Rainbows seems to deviate a lot more from previous games, he did troll vote, but not to extent of this game. He also spams a lot more.


NW gives a huge summary. and throws some shit. He meditates on the policy thing, which I told everyone wasn't policy. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW PEOPLE THINK AND POLICY JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE. Had to get out of the way. This post, and subsequently the spoiler, show no effort on NW's part to come to a conrete read on me. He simply says that I'm doing things. He seems really apprehensive about giving an actual read and just flops around.

I want peoples opinions of NW. Saraf might just be a banality-spewing town; and I'm unsure if his lolpolicy was serious or not. But NW - that guy. He's scummy.

Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 06 2013 02:36 GMT
#246
I am terrible sorry, as I said I haven't been feeling well and I had to do a peer review on a rough draft that I literally just finished. I will be reviewing the thread now. If I'm not feeling better soon I will have myself replaced.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 06 2013 02:46 GMT
#247
On April 06 2013 07:18 Obzy wrote:
I don't know what to think of Raven. He hasn't really posted enough - only his last two posts have content I care about;
Why does he think Saraf called Rain an asshole and an idiot? "even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie" - how is that implying Rain, unless it's taken for granted that Rain is a spammy asshole? >_>;;; Also, how did Rain interpret it to be calling him out?
- -; w/e. I would like to see Raven post more. Raven, are you implying that nobodywonder is town (haven't read him yet, will form an opinion momentarily) with this post?
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 03:06 TheRavensName wrote:
Seeing as how this is the third game now where NW has been a scummy read day one... have we ever wondered if NW just isn't that bright/isn't that good? I think NW just isn't that great and just makes mistakes and poor judgements that never seem to go well for him.
Just curious rainbows: Do you think Saraf or Nobodywonder has a higher chance of being scum, seeing as how right now the way I read it based off that wording is that you yourself are now voting for a guy you think might be town compared to a guy you think is scummy.

You seem like you're trying to point out that Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect, but that Nobodywonder is just a newb and not scum, but _also_ that he should be looking towards Nobodywonder instead of Saraf, who you think is town? I don't like it :x Please post more hehe. - -; I'm not following your reasoning, and that's all you've got atm.

(Continuing to read.)

To answer the first part: Rainbows brought it up I went off what he said.

Onto the next question: I think, at this moment, Nobodywonder is a sort of dumb town. What he says tseems to lack thought at times, and hes been scummy person on the first two days two games in a row acting exactly the same way as he has done so now, and he was VT both those times. So unless he makes a move that pushes me otherwise, I'm going to read dumb town on him.

Third part: I do think Rain's vote on Saraf is suspect. I'm stating that in that last part of rainbow's post that was a response to, which I think was poorly worded and was asking for clarification, that it looked like he had made the decision Saraf was at least maybe town and that Nobodywonder was just flat out scummy. If thats how he feels, why is he voting for Saraf still? Thats his whole reason for going after Safaf anyways (In that rainbows disliked that Sarif is voting for someone he said may have been scummy.)
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 06 2013 03:02 GMT
#248
On April 06 2013 06:10 jrkirby wrote:
Hey warent, what's your read on me, and the people who voted on me?


I don't like this post JRK, which is a shame because I like most of your other points. Can you explain what you were hoping to get out of this? Specifically: Why only ask warents opinion on such a broad group instead of posting cases on them yourself. From what I've seen these are very untown like thoughts, or atleast viewed as such.

I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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