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Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 05 2013 19:34 GMT
#195
Why hello there.

/in
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#249
All set, Wave.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 07 2013 04:28 GMT
#284
Wow, y'all are quick to draw conclusions.

What does FoS stand for again?
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 07 2013 13:29 GMT
#326
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 07 2013 14:31 GMT
#331
To answer your question Krafla, the most suspicious behavior to me on day one that could be worthy of a lynch is anyone who posts a lynch vote without reason, or someone who attempts to provide justification for future lurking. I'm also suspicious of blatant lurking, but like I said I think it's too soon to tell who the obvious lurkers are. That's why I'm not sure if I want to cast my vote yet. I want to see if anyone lurks really bad because that could affect my decision.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 07 2013 21:29 GMT
#375
@Wave I can see this concern about bduddy being heightened down the line but at least on the first day I feel as if obviously scummy behavior should trump lurkers when deciding where to place votes. But I am under the assumption that out of the scum, at least one will be actively involved in town activity and at least one will lurk. It is still possible that I would vote for him today though if the ones being accused of scum can defend themselves. Especially if he adds nothing else to the discussion.

@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 10:15 GMT
#453
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 20:10 GMT
#476
I don't really consider myself to be lurking; when I post I try to add good reasoning to my thought process. Some of you are posting quite a lot more than me, I will admit that is true. But there are plenty of others who have posted about as much as me. Waveofshadow, and Matriarch for example. Meanwhile, people like Arctic and bduddy have contributed far less.

As everyone is bandwagoning on nobodywonder, bduddy is able to sit back and not do anything. Still nothing from him since I last posted hours ago.

Therefore,

##Vote: bduddy
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 20:44 GMT
#485
@OmniEulogy You're willing to give bduddy more slack than me because he provided some reasoning for lack of posts. I can do the same, and you can take it or leave it. Obviously I was the one who said that making excuses for lurking shouldn't help someone's cause, but you seem not to mind it. So I'll be completely honest, I've had a pretty bad stomach bug for the past 24 hours and have spent most of that time in bed. The whole time I was worried that people might start suspecting me for lurking so I tried to make a post when I could, but basically I slept all night, tried to go to work, had to come home because I had a fever, and slept until about an hour ago.

But again if you want to start coming after people you consider to be lurkers, at least go after the ones who are contributing the least.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:02 GMT
#491
@Wave I didn't want to make excuses, but Omni seemed to want me to make one so I did.

After looking at your filters I suppose you have posted more but you're still not as prolific as many others in this thread.

Now you've said that my case for my vote isn't good, despite saying earlier in the thread that my case against bduddy was sound. I have stuck to my word on that, as he has not done anything to help his cause. I agree that nobodywonder has done things to help his cause in the past few hours, so my decision was a pretty easy one to make.

@Omni There is no way I am contributing the least. This just isn't true. Can you really say that I am contributing less than bduddy? I have been consistent in my posts for my reasoning, and I think that is most important. I threw some suspicions your way, but you really shouldn't be all too concerned about it because you admitted that you didn't expect people to unconditionally trust you on D1.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#493
@nobodywonder I explained earlier that I was going to wait and see how bad certain people were lurking. My policy early on was to go after blatant scummy behavior over lurking on the first day. But you've done better in explaining yourself in the past few hours whereas bduddy has been nowhere to be seen. Basically I didn't want to jump to rash decisions. I hope to explain myself too.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:10 GMT
#499
@Arctic What about Omni's case is so "great"? The claim that I have contributed the least? Because I'm pretty sure you've contributed less than me. Seems pretty easy for you to just sit back and buddy up with people without at least explaining why you like their case so much.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:40 GMT
#518
@ArcticDaishi There is no shame in questioning someone's logic, in this case Omni. This will hopefully lead to better analysis in the future. I don't see how this would be an attempt to stop his investigation. I don't consider my behavior towards him to have been hostile, especially since I noted how I liked a lot of the recent analysis he had made.

Meanwhile, you ignore my questions towards you completely and instead try to turn the discussion onto me. I'd still like to hear your response to my question of why you loved Omni's initial read on me so much.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:50 GMT
#527
I think it's entirely possible that it's just a bad townie. I am also willing to change my vote, although I agree with Wave's assessment that I am not entirely sold on Meatless yet.

But basically right now it seems as if my vote on bduddy is going to be pretty useless, though a vote on nobodywonder seems to be the easy way out. The case against him gets weaker by the moment.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:51 GMT
#528
Edit: when referencing a possible bad townie I meant Arctic.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#533
##Unvote
##Vote: MeatlessTaco

I am going to take a stand now to see if we can get more people onboard. I think nobodywonder does make a good point that we don't gain much information from lynching Arctic D1. I do find it curious that Meatless has disappeared after getting everyone to antagonize NW, maybe thinking that his job was done for the day. Lets see if he can defend himself.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:05 GMT
#538
This is true Raven. But it's a big risk because if he doesn't come up red we gain absolutely nothing. Lynching Meatless would give us some info either way. At this point I think we just need to come to a consensus to avoid lynching NW. A lynch on Arctic would at least be better than that, so I am open to the possibility.

That being said, I'd really like to see what the people who voted NW have to say now. A lot has changed since then and I'd like to see any new thoughts they might have.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:16 GMT
#545
Now looking at ChewOnStu's filter, it looks really bad. Some inital posting, then a vote. Nothing since then. Some talk too on lurkers and that voting for them is bad.

Since there's already 3 votes his way it may be a good choice. And I've never been entirely sure on Meatless.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:20 GMT
#549
Ok, so it seems as if while I was posting things changed. Less votes for Chew now, more for Arctic. At this point they seem fairly similar so it makes sense. Waiting to see what else Chew says.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 08 2013 22:21 GMT
#550
Edit: Meant to say "waiting to see what Taco says" instead of Chew.
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