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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 07 2013 13:42 GMT
#142
I guess I can't refuse an invitation
/in.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 07 2013 14:32 GMT
#146
Indeed, a lot of familiar names in here :D
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 10 2013 06:14 GMT
#277
RNG lynch is pretty horrible, 77% chance you hit a non-scum and you get 0 info out of it whatsoever because there would be little reason to accuse people of anything. Blank day, waste of time and only really reduces town chance of winning
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 10 2013 07:18 GMT
#299
Moc: Newbie 33 featured one too didn't it? (Whichever one my first game was)
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 10 2013 07:23 GMT
#306
Also, removing the deduction part of a social deduction game makes for a not very fun game methinks :\ Even if the chances of finding the scum D1 are low, it's still there and it's a hell of a lot more fun than assigning numbers to people and culling one off at random.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 11 2013 00:38 GMT
#337
I sitll think RNG sucks and that no lynch / normal voting is superior to RNG
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 11 2013 09:41 GMT
#409
On February 11 2013 14:01 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 13:58 cDgCorazon wrote:
@WB: Do you mean VT or some other blue role? If it makes you feel better, you have a 100% telling-the-truth rate when it comes to claiming roles.


I won't claim my actual role right now (just that my alignment is not mafia rofl), but if we get to a point later (d2+) where others are considering claiming, I will not hesitate this time.


I got up to here on the bus, and spent a bit of time working out the reasoning behind this blue claim so early on:

If he's scum, a way to extend his life through the chance he is telling the truth. Problem is the plan is spoiled when he doesn't die on night 1 - since he would be a prime candidate for a kill.

If he's actually blue, dumb move unless he plans to Vig shot someone on night 1 and hoping for a 1:1 trade? Alternatively if he's a vet aiming to prolong the life of the town - but even then that's a questionable move.

Being the SK with bulletproof wouldn't help too much since he will still end up suffering the same fate as the Vig of being shot over 2 nights. Helps town more than scum.

VT taking a bullet for the team is also a possibility here, but I don't understand why such a seed needs to be planted to early on.

Basically, I'm leaning towards either scum or vig on warbaby.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 11 2013 14:23 GMT
#429
On February 11 2013 20:57 warbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 18:41 Sylencia wrote:
If he's actually blue, dumb move unless he plans to Vig shot someone on night 1 and hoping for a 1:1 trade? Alternatively if he's a vet aiming to prolong the life of the town - but even then that's a questionable move.

Being the SK with bulletproof wouldn't help too much since he will still end up suffering the same fate as the Vig of being shot over 2 nights. Helps town more than scum.

VT taking a bullet for the team is also a possibility here, but I don't understand why such a seed needs to be planted to early on.

Basically, I'm leaning towards either scum or vig on warbaby.


Are you fucking dense? Scum already knows who the towns are. All I'm saying is I'm town. They (the scum) already know that.

I could give away more information (like a blue role) later on, but I haven't done that yet. Why are you saying I'm claiming a blue role when I've done nothing of the sort?

You must be fucking dense.


Of course scum knows who is town and who is not - they don't know who is blue and who is not though. Your wording in the original statement 'I won't claim my actual role right now' telegraphs you have something to actually claim.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 11 2013 23:55 GMT
#548
Currently at work - I can answer questions and make shallow comments about posts but I can't go too indepth with analysis at the moment (though this part has never really been a strong point of mine in these games)

1) I made my posts last night and the disappearance was me going to bed.
2) Everyone who has been posting about voting lurkers and outright saying it's a pressure vote is completely nullifying the effect of the pressure vote. The post above from Mandalor further shows how useless it is now - since it's stated that votes change so often anyways. Unless you're voting seriously for a lurker and plan to follow through with it, it's much better not to vote at all.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 04:03 GMT
#593
On February 12 2013 12:23 warbaby wrote:
Someone with 2 or 3 crappy posts is scummier to me than the current active posters.


You can't seriously say that considering the posts I made were targetting you. You don't have an objective view when it comes to things regarding you and your attitude towards anyone who accuses you of anything is the worst.

I'm not going to argue against the quantity of posts or my lack of discussion so far but your attitude is pissing me off.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 04:20 GMT
#599
My only posts have really been against warbaby - thought it was assumed <.<
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 11:53 GMT
#640
On February 12 2013 20:30 zarepath wrote:
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On February 12 2013 20:09 glurio wrote:
Well i agree that my case on sn0 is weak at best. Honestly, i made it because i promised to make one. After reading the filter i didn't find anything too scummy, except his endless posting about lurkers. So yeah, WoS had it right.
Also the reason why i didn't vote or FoS sn0.


Not sure if massive scum slip or . . .


Don't think so - pretty sure it was in reference to

On February 12 2013 07:12 glurio wrote:
after that expect my case on sn0.


@Geript: I posted regarding Warbaby's post because it stood out so much due to the wording he chose to use. Would you ever use 'I won't claim my actual role right now' when referring to 'I won't claim VT right now'? It's extremely awkward and suggested so much more than that. As you already mentioned, it's really dumb to be claiming here on day 1 if he was, but I'm just considering the possibility he's using this as future leverage when it comes down to claiming, a fake claim wouldn't be too unusual by saying he already hinted it then.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 14:22 GMT
#647
On February 12 2013 22:05 Mandalor wrote:
And more importantly: Why would he think about that? And even more mindboggling: Why would he post that?
To me this looks like scum trying to figure out the blues. Then again, would Sylencia really be that stupid? idk.


I posted it when I did because of the conclusion I came up with. I said I was leaning towards scum/vig read - if I was leaning towards blue role of course that would be the most idiotic thing to post up the analysis.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 23:02 GMT
#751
On February 13 2013 07:29 warbaby wrote:
I explained why I won't role claim, but why I'm happy to alignment claim.


I'm back again, and I don't understand how alignment claims ever help. Seeing as how it'd either be town claiming town, or scum/3rd party claiming town. That gets us nowhere.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 12 2013 23:36 GMT
#781
Now I'm seeing two reasons why I'm being voted here:
- The fact I'm quiet is apparently like the way I played when I was scum (wrong when you compare it to my other games, I was a bit more active during that game but still rather quiet in comparison to the number of players )
- The fact I'm quiet is uncharacteristic (also wrong, look at NMM32/33)

The points are kind of contradictory though...
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 13 2013 00:21 GMT
#818
On February 13 2013 08:52 Mocsta wrote:
Sylencia
I just checked your filter

and noticed your recent posts are defensive (perhaps due to pressure you)

What I need from you to determine alignment is not a defense; but to see you scum hunt.

I could not find a vote in your filter.Please indicate who your top scum read, and dot point why.


I've only checked a few filters unfortunately (bad play by me) but from those I've checked I'm going to still stick with my suspicion on Warbaby. I've tunneled on him a little bit too much though...

- Firstly, I didn't read what happened in NMM36 - so I don't know what happened there though you guys seem to have pretty much filled me in on it anyways.
- I did my analysis on him, and it feels like he's been aggressively trying to get me killed following it. There are other reasons he has given (lurker) but as Corazon has mentioned, there are a bunch of lurkers in this game and it is like I'm the target because I'm the one in that bunch who has targetted him.
- Rather than vote for a player he considers to be scummy, he decides to simply follow a LAL policy - so either he's not willing to vote for the people he finds suspicious or he's not scum hunting but policy killing, and not scum hunting is exactly what he is accusing me of too.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#823
On February 13 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 09:21 Sylencia wrote:
On February 13 2013 08:52 Mocsta wrote:
Sylencia
I just checked your filter

and noticed your recent posts are defensive (perhaps due to pressure you)

What I need from you to determine alignment is not a defense; but to see you scum hunt.

I could not find a vote in your filter.Please indicate who your top scum read, and dot point why.


I've only checked a few filters unfortunately (bad play by me) but from those I've checked I'm going to still stick with my suspicion on Warbaby. I've tunneled on him a little bit too much though...

- Firstly, I didn't read what happened in NMM36 - so I don't know what happened there though you guys seem to have pretty much filled me in on it anyways.
- I did my analysis on him, and it feels like he's been aggressively trying to get me killed following it. There are other reasons he has given (lurker) but as Corazon has mentioned, there are a bunch of lurkers in this game and it is like I'm the target because I'm the one in that bunch who has targetted him.
- Rather than vote for a player he considers to be scummy, he decides to simply follow a LAL policy - so either he's not willing to vote for the people he finds suspicious or he's not scum hunting but policy killing, and not scum hunting is exactly what he is accusing me of too.

Suspicion is not enough with 30 minutes to go. Wishy-washy up until the end is not going to earn you any friends with your neck on the line.


No it will not, but as much as I would want to vote him - I might end up having to vote for my survival, since warbaby will not be gathering any votes.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 13 2013 00:50 GMT
#846
##Vote: Warbaby
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 13 2013 00:54 GMT
#853
On February 13 2013 09:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
JK syl's vote is less out of the blue than I thought.


.. What lol, I gave my reasons before and I'm voting for him to consolidate my thoughts on him. I will have to change my vote to glurio if required to stay alive though.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
February 13 2013 22:54 GMT
#971
Yeah, so to those who were wondering why I was mentioning possibly having to vote for glurio if required:

- Yes, the objective is for town is for a town win and not survival, but I am 100% sure of what I am and I am not about glurio.
- At the time I was typing my head was on the chopping block, but after I posted it someone had already moved off of me, so it looked like I was saying it for no reason.

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