On January 24 2013 21:54 marvellosity wrote:
i need to say this pre-game so i don't get in trouble in-game - my activity levels are quite unlikely to be hyper like usual, i'm quite busy at work at the moment (where i often post a lot ;p).

Scummy lies.

##Vote: Marvellosity

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 26 2013 16:39 GMT

#406

Obviously I'm miller

Still catching up, but in the first few pages I already want to kill iamp for being an overly accusatory shit but we'll see how that goes.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:11 GMT

#606

Iamp not so scummy after all, his pursuit of thrawn seems legitimate. In the just-finished Dessert Mini, thrawn was far more active as town, and in LVIII he was less so as mafia.

I agree with Djo's case on VE. I don't like that he's been relatively inactive as opposed to his boredline spammy town game in LVIII.

Plus:

On January 26 2013 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:

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Thrawn probably scum. FYI.

On January 26 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
It feels too much like "Hey guys, I'm lighthearted and carefree too! Witness my comedic glory with this impromptu joke!"

This attack on thrawn reads overaggressive to me. I see no indication that this wasn't serious, but later on he says this:

On January 26 2013 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
No man...that one statement isn't even close to enough to implicate him as scum. He made a bad joke (again), so I made one back at him.

Backs off his read, realizing people view his attack as stupid and scummy. He's doing the same thing I didn't like from iamp early game, because being overly accusatory negatively affects town's atmosphere Day 1.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:15 GMT

#608

On January 28 2013 03:14 iamperfection wrote:
If you believe my pursuit is legitimate why not join me?

I want to kill VE more.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:16 GMT

#609

On January 28 2013 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmm...that really really bad case by Djodref is like...really really bad.

Apparently the number of posts I make in all caps is alignment indicative? He seems to think that my case on iamp is bad, which is fine I guess, but he doesn't say why it's bad or what about it indicates that I have to be scum.

I'm still okay with the thrawn lynch, aside from the relative lack of opposition. No one seems to care if thrawn dies, which is never indicative of a good lynch. But this is minor, and it's still kinda early.

I'm reading, if anyone wants anything from me let me know.

I mean, look at that waffle.

Put some fucking syrup on it.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:18 GMT

#611

On January 28 2013 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh man...guys I'm not getting lynched today. Who else you want dead Yamato?

I'd kill thrawn if people somehow think you're town.

I think my post said as much.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:21 GMT

#613

On January 28 2013 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone does....that doesn't give you pause at all?

Everyone wanting to kill a scummy looking lurker?

Why is ease of a wagon indicative of someone being mafia or not?

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:22 GMT

#615

And apparently you don't want to kill him, because you're softdefending him here.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:23 GMT

#616

On January 28 2013 03:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway, yamato your case is equally laughable.

"Overagressive" because THAT is a scum trait right? Over-aggressive? Attention-drawing aggression would do WONDERS for my so called scumteam, right yamato?

Now you're not even reading.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:30 GMT

#625

On January 28 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not softdefending thrawn. I'm saying I don't like that there's no resistance to the wagon. I've said (multiple times) that I'm okay with a thrawn lynch. So whatever, keep trying to inject scumminess into my play however you wish yamato. It doesn't make me scum.

You are now the resistance to the wagon.

On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. If you really wanna push this failwagon be my guest.

You're more scummy for doing this than thrawn is for lurking. It's not injecting scumminess if you're the one doing it.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 18:40 GMT

#635

If that guy is Zentor he's the trolliest troll in all of trollingtown.

There's literally no point in trying to make him do something because he won't.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 21:05 GMT

#667

On January 28 2013 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nono...I'll throw my weight behind thrawn.

##Unvote
##Vote: thrawn

Hm. Unless I think Thrawn is town this makes no sense for VE being mafia.

I'll take another look at you after the flip, VE, but for now you're off the hook.

##Unvote
##Vote: Thrawn

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 21:07 GMT

#669

On January 28 2013 06:05 Vivax wrote:
If EZ keeps trolling he's vigilante food.

If a vigi shoots someone else over EZ without a damn good reason I'd probably want to lynch him for the danger of him being the SK.

DID YOU HEAR ME GHOST?

Are you trying to imply that Ghost is SK/Vig?

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 21:13 GMT

#673

I was just wondering if you were going to carry over your idiotic role outing anti-town behavior from one game to the next.

Good to know I can ignore you now.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 21:17 GMT

#676

On January 28 2013 06:15 Vivax wrote:

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Yeah, keep the childish attitude outside of this game and stop posting please.
Just got into the game and already spewing insults. Hilarious.

This coming from you, hah.

Well anyway, you don't have to worry, I won't be responding to you at all this game.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 27 2013 21:23 GMT

#682

On January 28 2013 06:19 Promethelax wrote:
Both of you stop it. Don't. Fight about other games. Play to the best of your abilities and work together to hunt scum (even if you are scum you gotta do it).

As your self appointed leader I'm telling you both to stop fighting now.

Fine, whatever.

I'm leaving anyway. See you guys after the flip.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 28 2013 00:00 GMT

#786

On January 28 2013 08:46 Djodref wrote:
@ Vivax

I still don't think that xsksc is scum. I need to read this whole day 1 again though given this flip.
I think VE looks even worse right now but I'll get on this later because I have to go to work.

Let me give you a short summary.

VE has thrawn as scum very shortly after thrawn's joke.
VE doesn't push thrawn so much after that and goes after iamp at some point.
Check VE interaction with yamato about thrawn.
VE votes the same guy that his top scumread. He doesn't try to find scum outside iamp and thrawn.

That interaction between VE and I makes him far likelier town, actually.

Why would mafia VE resist thrawn's lynch as weakly as he did and then end up voting for him?
Town VE may very well have found thrawn scummy, as he said he did, and then decided before leaving that he was the best lynch.

Makes no sense for mafia VE to do that. The flip definitely should make you see VE townier, which makes me think you're just tunneling him with massive confirmation bias. I just can't tell if you're being thick about it or just plain mafia picking someone and fabricating suspicion, at this point. I agreed with you earlier but at this point it's kind of absurd.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 28 2013 01:30 GMT

#798

Going back and looking at the game, finding people who didn't vote Thrawn, I saw this post:

On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote:
Well, for starters, Thrawn is not a scum read. I'm not sure how you got that, he's pretty much entirely null to me. Too much absence to get even a minor read on.

EmileZola is like a vortex for my sanity. Another big lurker (though slightly more active) and he's mainly just sort of trolled along. I think it's fairly safe to treat him like he's not MrZentor, which makes me wonder why the wagon that was beginning to form on him fizzled out and hasn't come back after the revelation. He agrees with one of my reads though, I'm not sure to take that as a mark against my read, or a mark for him being townie, I need to hear more from him.

Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team.

When I see a player give out this many null/potentially scum reads in one post, my scumdar goes off. He's basically listed half the game here and left himself open to voting for them in the future, super scummy behavior. To top it off, he's refusing to give a read on Thrawn despite the evidence given by others.

This reads hugely noncommittal. He doesn't take a strong stance even on one of the players he considers to be part of his hypothetical scum team, he just waffles and says "I need to hear more from him."

He's also amazingly fluffy throughout his filter. I'd be up for lynching him tomorrow.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 28 2013 01:42 GMT

#800

On January 28 2013 10:39 Djodref wrote:
@ Prom

Tell me if you still think I'm scum after re-reading D1.

@ yamato

I don't think any scumbuddy would be so fluffly. They would have known thrawn would flip scum

I'm not sure I follow your logic there.

But then again, I don't follow your logic on Vivax either.

Mind explaining yourself at more length?