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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 04 2012 21:55 GMT
#34
/in

Obviously, I'm busy atm etc. etc., so I might not post regularly etc. etc.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 16:16 GMT
#255
Hi guys, I've almost finished reading through.

The last post I liked most was from Bluelightz. I also want to remind you of Clarity_nl trying to discuss policy as a first step after thrawns slip. That caught my eye.

Posting more soon.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 17:11 GMT
#273
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=7#123

Thrawn posting that his post has a purpose.

www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17192357

VE defending thrawn based on meta, and that it's gotta be a joke.

So apparently, VE either didn't read thrawns posts, or he believes that the purpose thrawn speaks about is that of making a joke.
VE responded to a question from jay with this post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#284
My analysis is the end of that post. Thrawn acts as if he had some kind of plan behind his actions, and VE defending him doesn't take that into consideration, but thinks of it as a joke.

Clarity, may I know why you are so disinterested in thrawns claim? You were the first to point out his mistake and never gave a fuck about it.

I don't feel like I can just let this matter go. Thrawn could have talked about it as a joke, instead he acts as if he did it on purpose.
He's probably just realized that he's made a big mistake, and further talking about him will harm him no matter what.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 17:59 GMT
#287
That VE defends thrawn with another argument than thrawn himself used.

What motivations would he have to defend him if he doesn't even grasp thrawns own point of view? He might aswell have not read his posts, not showing any interest in scumhunting with that trail available.

I might also remind you that VE has been present since 9:44, but only posts as answer to jay at around 10:23. He's shown lack of interest in the matter from start.

My conclusion?Maybe scummy, maybe sloppy.
You want me to go further than this?We've got enough time to vote. If I had to do it now it would be thrawn.
Fakeclaiming as joke is a pretty shitty move.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 18:07 GMT
#292
Here, I have some explications on a notepad advertising rectal gel.

[image loading]

That reminds me that you've pressured thrawn a little at 10:18, marv, but quickly lost interest.
So what's your opinion on him?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 18:42 GMT
#298
After thinking about thrawns actions more thoroughly, there's another aspect that I think noone mentioned so far:

If he was a scum fakeclaiming, believing that millers are self-aware, he would take the risk of facing a counterclaim.
As others mentioned, he's drawn attention with that. But identifying scum with stereotypes isn't exactly the way. Why wouldn't scum be able to draw attention and get away with it?

He would have made following mistakes:
1. Overlooked the rule about self-awareness. Obvious.
2. Forgotten to consider another miller, under the premise that he really made mistake 1.

I don't believe it was a joke though, rather some sort of strategy. Maybe he would have brought these points up by himself at some point, betting on town not believing that he would do such mistakes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 18:48 GMT
#301
Didn't realize that post of yours, consider me to be your parrot then.

Brb in one or more hours.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 20:38 GMT
#318
So I've been scratching my balls while reading the thread for the last 20 minutes, and when I saw jaybrundages posts, they started to hurt.

##Vote jaybrundage

On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote:
Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation.


So you are okay with this post?

On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible


To me it looks like you didn't study the matter enough. This explanation sucks hard. He's basically leaving the defense of himself to everybody else. He never said explicitly that he joked, he only said explicitly that he had intentions, fuck knows which.

That being said, I suggest you go back and read the stuff before you make the same mistake I made with clarity.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 21:07 GMT
#332
He's trying to justify every move he makes and being pretty careful in general.
Holy shit, he even digs through his own meta to justify his "Ohmahgawdidontwannabandwagon".

Meanwhile, he does exactly that, he catches up some sentiment in town and rides it when he feels it's strong enough.
Check the filter. Until his "hit the bed" post, upon which he voted for me, he never updated his stance on thrawn, he never got the response he's been expecting from him.
In theory, jay should have commented on my posts about thrawn, if not even supported them.

But when he has to defend himself, he posts all sorts of shit. When he has to vote for someone, he never does it on his own initiative. Additionally, he tries to moderate other people.

Another thing by jay in his last post:
Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke


Same shit as with Tunkeg. He says that thrawn himself said it was a joke. Bullshit. Find the line where he says that. They both didn't even read. But unlike Tunkeg, Jay felt that thrawn was a liar and scum, and voted for him when others did.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 21:07 GMT
#333
EBWOP: Regarding Jay, in response to marv.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 21:33 GMT
#341
Doesn't even matter why he does it as long as he does it, clarity.
If you asked me to dig up my meta for you, I'll gently tell you to gtfo and read it for yourself, it's out there.
However, I don't even want to get lost into details, I don't trust his style and that's all.


I don't feel like lynching Tunkeg for one post. To me it looks like he's lazy. If he doesn't post more until the end of day 1 I'll think about changing opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 21:52 GMT
#346
Z-Boson is quite confrontational in his posts. I don't think he's scum as of now, but I think he should post more.

I didn't like Tunkegs response, he could have spent time posting more against others instead of reacting to my post with one line.
I'd join you in a Tunkeg vote, not in for Z-Boson though.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 21:53 GMT
#347
EBWOP:
Just saw Bosons post, reading and updating opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:08 GMT
#352
I'll go read the thread and scratch my balls some more. I'm clearly missing too much stuff .

I still don't like your defensive style jaybro. Nothing personal.


Meanwhile, you can discuss how weird it is that I'm willing to lynch Tunkeg after his second post, Clarity looks willing to help in that, he's being like, my personal journalist.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:23 GMT
#355
@ Z-Boson

You raise some good points.
I'd say your main argument is that he identifies that early vote by debears as a policy vote, but still asks about other motivations.

Then he drops from debears,
goes for thrawn, the guy he leaned town on,
just to switch to jay for suspecting thrawn. The same guy he voted for just before.

Yeah, I think he's scummy for these moves.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:24 GMT
#356
No, I won't answer clarity. He's just being annoying.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:32 GMT
#359
He answered two hours after his last comment, just to defend himself with one line.
His first post was made to fit in in some way, then he apparently spent hours lurking only to come out again when called out from me.
Don't act as if I changed my mind out of nothing. I changed it cause of his post. Just cause clarity highlights one small part of it (the one where I express my willingness to vote) doesn't mean you shouldn't read the rest of it ,where I say that I didn't like Tunkegs response.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#364
Counterquestion, Tunkeg:

What do you think of jay and Djodref? Don't you think they are scummy?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22237 Posts
December 10 2012 22:49 GMT
#368
Tunkeg, do you think Djordref acted scummy in front of thrawns claim?
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