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VisceraEyes
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On December 06 2012 07:23 GreYMisT wrote: I would very much like to know where you went during my game PMd | ||
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 /out Preemptive /sitout per Chrono modkill The stars better fucking align again, that's all I'm saying. | ||
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What, you afraid I gunna git u sucka? <3 | ||
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The post in question is pretty obviously a joke. As Adam pointed out, thrawn has pointed out in past games that he disagrees with the notion of millers claiming because he doesn't know how to approach deciding if the claim is real or not...so why would he claim miller as any alignment? So our options here are that thrawn is A) town and joking, B) town and fake-claiming, C) scum and joking, or D) scum and fake-claiming. Given what Adam posted about thrawn's stance on self-aware millers claiming, I'm willing to rule out fake-claiming (town OR scum), so that leaves us with town joking or scum joking. Between those two, I'd say that thrawn is more likely town than scum. It seems that scum would be more afraid to jokingly claim something that's going to draw attention to him, if not by virtue of the claim alone then because it's not possible for him to even know that. | ||
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What do you think about thrawn? Your first post on the subject seemed to indicate suspicion, while your second seemed to elude to a more "stupid town" read. Which is it? And why are you playing like you don't give a shit? | ||
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##Vote: marvellosity | ||
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On December 10 2012 10:57 marvellosity wrote: please tell me you're not going to be this exceptionally dull this game. :/ I thought we were havin a good time here. | ||
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##Unvote The case on jay seems to revolve around his lack of commitment to his "scumread" on thrawn based on the miller claim. First of all, I have to say - I don't find that to be particularly damning. First of all, the posts in question were from the first six hours of D1. Secondly, it occurs to me that "I don't really like early bandwagons" is more likely to come from a town player than a scum player. Think about it - while Clarity claims that's "classic scum mindset", is that classic scum play? I agree that scum players tend to not like early bandwagons, but do they come into the thread citing that as their reasoning for avoiding voting for one of their "scumreads"? I think not, considering how it's "classic scum mindset" ya know? To be honest, I can see town jay acting the way he's acting regarding thrawn. Not interested in lynching jay today. "But VE, who would you like to lynch today?" Calm down bish I'm getting there. Based on what I'm seeing, I think Vivax and Palmar could be scum together. First of all, Vivax has this problem with my interest level? Goes so far as to throw times of posts into the mix to appear that he's carefully watching the thread...except, Palmar has shown that he not only doesn't care about the game, he doesn't care about his own alignment in the game. Unfortunately, I've seen Palmar do this as town, so I'm not putting much stock into Palmar's end of it. But Vivax....Vivax is in here actively trying to put suspicion on me for having a townread on thrawn. Literally. I even explained in detail why I thought thrawn was joking, which by the way, he was by his own tongue. I think Vivax is trying to fake contribution. I think he's trying to appear active while doing nothing of value. He claims that in spite of his "analysis" of my actions, he'd STILL vote for thrawn, based on the stale-ass fake-claim. I'm calling bullshit. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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Perhaps he feels responsible for mislynches in the past? I don't know WHY he said that...I just feel like the statement is more likely to come from town than scum. I didn't say anything LIKE "too scummy to be scum". I pointed out that his posts read more town than scum to me. What do you think about Vivax? I want him to hang. | ||
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Things I agree with: Adam Is Scummy While he hasn't been doing much scumhunting, at least he can't be bothered to defend himself against accusations that crop up about him. Also the disconnect between the suspicion of debears/trying to convince debears that he's not scum definitely looks like floundering scum who can't keep his story straight. Clarity = ObvTown I don't necessarily agree with Clarity's case on Jay, and I was surprised to hear it called "good" by both Bugs and Palmar, but it's a case and it took effort I'm not sure scum would be putting into "trying to look active". "Trying to look active" are what Vivax and Adam were doing earlier. Clarity is obviously active and reading and drawing conclusions. I'm going to go REread the case on Jay before I comment further on him, but Clarity is probably town. Things I disagree with: Marv Looks Town Marv looks like marv. AND WHILE THAT LOOKS DAMN GOOD, it doesn't look like town. At least, not to me....not yet. I'm strongly and vehemently NULL on Marv. Vivax Doesn't Look Scummy Screw you buddy, yes he does. I'll show you. VE Being Wrong Is Towntell I'm wrong in AT LEAST equal measure when I'm scum, you sneaky bastard. Don't wanna lynch Palmar today. At least, not unless he wants to lynch me. Then he sucks and can eat rope. That goes for all you guys, actually. So yeah...gonna reread the case on Jay, see what I see in Vivax' filter, maybe do a little reading up on some others and check back in in a bit. | ||
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On December 11 2012 11:16 marvellosity wrote: also VE: "strongly and vehemently null". A contradiction in terms, dear? ^^ also debears, Clarity is right. Your townread on Palmar is/was hilariously ludicrous. Not where you're concerned. It's an agitation thing. Like..."MARV!!!!! GAAHHHHHH!!!!! WHY CAN'T I READ/TRUST/STOP THINKING ABOUT YOU?!?!?" Now go away, I'm doin something. Something important. | ||
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At least, that's how I interpreted debears' posts on the matter. I actually got that feeling when Adam posted that last bit, but debears beat me to it while I was looking for an Admiral Ackbar pic to post.  | ||
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After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote: Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote: I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax (Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: jaybrundage I'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings. | ||
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Jeez, and being called out for inactivity by Palmar fucking stings bro. | ||
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