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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 14 2012 12:55 GMT
#13
Inc day 1 VT claim to spice things up.

The Cheesecake has returned, baby.

/in
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 15 2012 14:49 GMT
#40
I'm on the east coast here, so delaying the lynch time would not be preferable. It's at 10pm right now, so I can get up at 6:00 for my classes with relatively good sleep. Making it earlier is fine, just not much later. I already have nightmares of 3AM WoW raids.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#50
On November 16 2012 00:08 Djodref wrote:
Don't let him claim VT first

By the way, it was a really nice move and really helped us a lot to solve the game and it is fucking hilarious when you read it again


That was the plan, man. <3 Djo
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 15 2012 23:20 GMT
#56
If you give everyone a personal coach, you may as well have a regular non-newbie game lol. Also, Dan confirmed wanting to be all in my business.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 20 2012 00:56 GMT
#98
Black Raspberry cheesecake currently gracing my dessert plate, and soon my belly. Only one more person, and we're good to go :D. Until then, I shall continue my regular activities.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 20 2012 13:55 GMT
#106
Cakepie obviously saw my name, and was like "Hey, this guy is awesome."
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 20 2012 18:55 GMT
#115
Starting Friday would be better for me, but Saturday is fine as well.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#130
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! As a friendly reminder: Stuff your face, get drunk, eat pie--and avoid those awkward conversations with distant family members. See you all Saturday.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 00:44:11
November 25 2012 00:43 GMT
#151
Edit: No more talking.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#166
Greetings gentlemen!

A few questions to spark ye olde town discussion:

1) How many games have you played on TL?
2) Where do you stand on lurker lynching D1?
3) Pie or Cheesecake?

For me:

1) this is my third, one game as mafia one as VT
2) Lynching a lurker d1 is good to me if no viable scum read presents itself. Also, we have no vig to take care of pesky lurkers otherwise.
3) Pie. Jk jk.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 02:55 GMT
#173
On November 25 2012 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that accurate day 1 reads are difficult to make due to the low sample size and if we lynch the lurkers, everyone has to contribute which will help in making more accurate reads.


Pretty obvious statement if you ask me. We just need to possess the confidence to scumhunt effectively. There is a 48 hour window between now and lynch time, so there is no reason anyone should be lurking. If we have to lynch a lurker, meh, but I'd much rather have this "small sample size" inflated within D1 so we aren't forced down the coin flip road.

Anyone else around?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 04:40 GMT
#177
On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him


Not sure if sarcastic. Please do explain good sir.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 05:04 GMT
#182
On November 25 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes totally agree with Cheesecake.
only 5/9 are here, where are the rest


On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him


I really don't understand where your trepidations are coming from. You agree with me, but get scummy feelings from me?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 05:43 GMT
#188
On November 25 2012 14:37 yamato77 wrote:
Why don't you give us your actual input on Cheesecake?


Why don't you?

Also, I like how Oats disappears when I point out the obvious contradiction in his motives.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#192
@Yamato

And what else would you suggest we discuss hmm? Lurker lynching policy is a standard for opening talk. The entirety of your input on anything so far has been about a day 2 lynch. What would you like to discuss that bears relevance to our day 1 actions?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 15:16 GMT
#240
Okay so just woke up. The Oats vote is pretty lulzy to me.

On November 25 2012 23:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
LOL kickstart learning from the vets huh.
there are like 4 pages of content, I challenge you to find a case out of that.
A proper case that has scum reasons for certain posts.
ok about cheesecake
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 11:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Greetings gentlemen!

A few questions to spark ye olde town discussion:

1) How many games have you played on TL?
2) Where do you stand on lurker lynching D1?
3) Pie or Cheesecake?

For me:

1) this is my third, one game as mafia one as VT
2) Lynching a lurker d1 is good to me if no viable scum read presents itself. Also, we have no vig to take care of pesky lurkers otherwise.
3) Pie. Jk jk.


1.) This post looks like he is being light-hearted, especially with the Pie and Cheesecake question.
I feel that it is an act, the post looks VERY deliberate in being casual.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 11:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 25 2012 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that accurate day 1 reads are difficult to make due to the low sample size and if we lynch the lurkers, everyone has to contribute which will help in making more accurate reads.


Pretty obvious statement if you ask me. We just need to possess the confidence to scumhunt effectively. There is a 48 hour window between now and lynch time, so there is no reason anyone should be lurking. If we have to lynch a lurker, meh, but I'd much rather have this "small sample size" inflated within D1 so we aren't forced down the coin flip road.

Anyone else around?


2.) Then here, a reason for people to be lurking is because we havent called them out. He basically says, I will lynch a lurker/anybody. Which is good reason to hop onto any bandwagon that is benefical for scum. Like lynching an inactive town/active but bad town


1.) This reminds me a ton of last game where Djo tried to call me our for telling a joke to Dibbers, and we all know that didn't get anywhere. It's a null tell and a terrible reason to vote someone. Of course my first post is light-hearted and casual; nobody was even talking about anything. You can't engage into a conversation by being all seriousmode, and that's not Mr. Cheesecake for you. Don't like my dessert question? Sorry.

2.) On the second post, you give a huge blanket statement that says the obvious. Admittedly, the only thing I'm saying is that I don't want people to lurk (see: NMM XXIX) and I'll lynch them if necessary. I never say that I'd lynch anybody--that's your own misconception.

Not a big fan of Oats so far because he is voting on feeling and points to the last game to explain his confusion (which explains nothing). However, I think everyone might be rolling their faces over him too much for voting me (also, how is Kickstart's vote an OMGUS vote when Oat's vote is on me?) I'm more concerned about Yamato right now. His posts amount to a bunch of one-liners that achieve nothing. Same goes for Helo, pretty blendy personalities at this point in time.

FoS Yamato77
FoS HeloKnight

Just a bit of pressure, I'd like to hear some constructive posts from them.

@Aquanium

On November 25 2012 14:57 Aquanim wrote:
Sure, he's made all of four five posts so far so don't expect anything insightful.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 14:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes totally agree with Cheesecake.
only 5/9 are here, where are the rest


On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him


I really don't understand where your trepidations are coming from. You agree with me, but get scummy feelings from me?


I'm not liking this. In the first quote Cheesecake took, Oatsmaster is agreeing with this post:

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 11:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 25 2012 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that accurate day 1 reads are difficult to make due to the low sample size and if we lynch the lurkers, everyone has to contribute which will help in making more accurate reads.


Pretty obvious statement if you ask me. We just need to possess the confidence to scumhunt effectively. There is a 48 hour window between now and lynch time, so there is no reason anyone should be lurking. If we have to lynch a lurker, meh, but I'd much rather have this "small sample size" inflated within D1 so we aren't forced down the coin flip road.

Anyone else around?


which is pretty generically town-speech stuff from Mr. Cheesecake. I could well see Oatsmaster agreeing with the body of this message, BUT not liking the fact that Cheesecake is making speeches rather than poking people and looking for scum. (I'm taking a wild guess at what Oatsmaster's feeling was based on here.)

And apart from Cheesecake's questions in his first post and contentless sniping at Oatsmaster since that's all there is.


This post is extremely wish-washy to me. He basically takes a neutral stance and says that he can understand both sides of the argument. I'm confused as to his opinion. Do you not like the fact that he agreeing with me, and simultaneously gets a scum-feel? Or do you disagree with me?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 15:50 GMT
#244
On November 26 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cheesecake, you completely miss the point about the first post.
I said you are TRYING too hard to be casual and it ends up looking fake. So therefore you are scum trying to gain town image by starting a discussion.
However, the discussion has nothing to do with scum reads and such, it is basically fluff that you want from your questions.
so I think that you are scum because you APPEAR to be helping town when in actual fact, you are putting up a facade.


First bolded: WIFOM, etc. If you think I'm trying to be casual, you obviously haven't read my name.

Second: The joke third question is a joke, way to point out the obvious. If you're basing your scumread off of that, lol. The first question is simply to gauge one's experience, and the second is to actually start a discussion which evidently it has. The discussion cannot START with "scum reads and such", it has to take off from essentially nothing and then proceed into reads.
If you believe opening with a discussion on policy lynching is advocating fluff, you are wrong.



But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 17:10 GMT
#254
@SDM

Probably the most important thing is that just because someone has bad game sense doesn't make them scum. Djo last game pushed his terrible case on me, and I thought he was scummy because he literally had no traction on it. Oats, to me, seems a lot like Djo from last game. Hell, even the smiles.

I'm more concerned with people who have faulty motives. Clarity, for example, made this random comment when i was counter-pushing djo to sort of amplify my case. Stuck out to me as active lurking, and there really was no motive behind it.

Oats, therefore, despite his lolcase is null.

I'm more curious about the people I've FoS'd, particularly HeloKnight. He came in, summarized the general theme which was anti-Oats, posted a little rant on him and then left.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 17:31 GMT
#256
On November 26 2012 02:23 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@SDM

Probably the most important thing is that just because someone has bad game sense doesn't make them scum. Djo last game pushed his terrible case on me, and I thought he was scummy because he literally had no traction on it. Oats, to me, seems a lot like Djo from last game. Hell, even the smiles.

I'm more concerned with people who have faulty motives. Clarity, for example, made this random comment when i was counter-pushing djo to sort of amplify my case. Stuck out to me as active lurking, and there really was no motive behind it.

Oats, therefore, despite his lolcase is null.

I'm more curious about the people I've FoS'd, particularly HeloKnight. He came in, summarized the general theme which was anti-Oats, posted a little rant on him and then left.


Anything from your earlier newbie games you've learnt about what style to play yourself? Do you see any mistakes you made in those games? I'm not talking about VT claiming but more general stuff.


VT claim was partially due to the fact that I was lazy and thought the flavor would confirm me. Turns out, it made the mafia look so guilty once I flipped haha.

The only other game I played was as scum. In that game I played overly neutral, and pretty much tunneled a townie to the ground D2. I felt pressured to -never- change my way of thinking (I only ever FoS'd like two people and only voted Djo lol). If you read my filter in that game, I'm also putting on this super serious face; it's evident in my syntax and diction. I think I know what I'm looking for in my scumreads if I base it off my experience and seeing how my team played.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 18:28 GMT
#260
On November 26 2012 03:02 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:23 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@SDM

Probably the most important thing is that just because someone has bad game sense doesn't make them scum. Djo last game pushed his terrible case on me, and I thought he was scummy because he literally had no traction on it. Oats, to me, seems a lot like Djo from last game. Hell, even the smiles.

I'm more concerned with people who have faulty motives. Clarity, for example, made this random comment when i was counter-pushing djo to sort of amplify my case. Stuck out to me as active lurking, and there really was no motive behind it.

Oats, therefore, despite his lolcase is null.

I'm more curious about the people I've FoS'd, particularly HeloKnight. He came in, summarized the general theme which was anti-Oats, posted a little rant on him and then left.


Anything from your earlier newbie games you've learnt about what style to play yourself? Do you see any mistakes you made in those games? I'm not talking about VT claiming but more general stuff.


VT claim was partially due to the fact that I was lazy and thought the flavor would confirm me. Turns out, it made the mafia look so guilty once I flipped haha.

The only other game I played was as scum. In that game I played overly neutral, and pretty much tunneled a townie to the ground D2. I felt pressured to -never- change my way of thinking (I only ever FoS'd like two people and only voted Djo lol). If you read my filter in that game, I'm also putting on this super serious face; it's evident in my syntax and diction. I think I know what I'm looking for in my scumreads if I base it off my experience and seeing how my team played.


And did that lead you to make any adjustments in your style for this game?


For this game? Aside from what to look for in posts and analyzing behavior, not really. As it were, that game helped my scum mentality more than anything.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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