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I mean, the wind levels might not be the highest ever, and it's sure as hell no Katrina, but a thirteen-foot storm surge hitting the biggest city in the country is no joke. Plus, TL was down! how can you call that not serious! | ||
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I kind of sound like Yoda. | ||
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Krazy Amerikans with your time zones, I must have a big offset from everyone Lame, I declare this - in order for this gameshow to get off the ground we have to post more! Maybe the pressure is making the performers choke? Never Fear, sayeth I, for all the audience have a part to play as well! Our fellow townsmen must not let themselves bitch out! Perhaps you thought this post was just to try to get other people to post more, but you were wrong! Querulously I say: Blazinghand, what do you think of Adam's posting after your vote? Really, right now I think BKE is scummier, but there's also a bunch of people who haven't posted at all yet. Sometime we may have to start yelling at didgeridoo, mementoss, chezinu, or gonzaw. That said, I hope they'll post on their own so I'm going to keep focusing on other people. Under that initiative, I have a question for BKE - who do you think is the scummiest? Verily thou hast not posted any suspicions despite being in the thread. Who else should we be focusing at... X-fire99, you posted that you thought BH was "fast on the trigger", do you think that is a reason to think he's scum, and do you think he's scum? Zyzzyva is an awesome word! | ||
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Err, it kind of seems like all the scums would just claim VT as well, right? Following that, wouldn't we just have the performers left as the people who didn't claim? Generally, plans that require townies to either lie or blueclaim right away on day 1 seem like a bad idea... | ||
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On November 01 2012 01:37 Crossfire99 wrote: Just to clarify, Hopeless, I did claim; but did I do that to take the heat off of blues, or am I actually a blue trying to claim VT to sneak under the radar (really over the radar with the way I've been posting)? Keep on guessing because I might not have even read my role PM myself. Lol. Maybe I should do that. Novel idea I had, to play without checking my role PM. Oh the possibilities! Ugh. Very much do I hate this concept, since it inherently involves playing against your win con. Wonce Drazerk did this in a game I was in and I did nothing that game but rage at him also have fun starting your next post with X person after me bwahaha. | ||
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Hmmmmm, it's getting later in the day. It seems like there's some cases to consider. Just, I'm still looking at BKE, and I don't like what I see. Kay? Like his whole filter is mostly taken up with talking about how much he hates people who vote in the thread and not in the voting thread. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I see this as a lot of smokescreen - it's just way too unimportant to be taking up the large percentage of his filter that it is. Next there's his early-game jump-on vote on Crossfire. On the one hand, we have the meta analysis that Adam did, indicating that this is different from how he's entered games as a townie in the past - this only goes so far, but it is a point worth keeping in mind. Plus, he kept the vote on Crossfire for quite some time, all the while talking about how important votes in the voting thread are and how they should match up with stances in the main thread - this is the important part of his advice about "not going back on your word" - this seems inconsistent to me, and one thing I've learned in Mafia is that when players ascribe a lot of importance to some piece of advice on how to play the game but then don't follow that advice themselves, it indicates that advice exists to cover up for lack of contribution in other areas. Question: what contribution has he made other than that stuff about votes and such? Really, nothing except his little "case" on hopeless1der. Sure, hopeless hasn't been a paragon of town-leading shining knighthood, but he's definitely been more involved in the thread than BKE. True, hopeless's original reasoning for voting BKE wasn't great, but he follows up on it in a way that BKE didn't do with his vote on crossfire. Ultimately, I feel the need to do the following: ##vote: BroodKingEXE | ||
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Yeah also - what do you think about BKEXE (i think he is scum, please to comment) | ||
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Going on to Adam. His posts this game "sound weirder" or "sound less genuine" to me than anyone else's except perhaps crossfire, who's playing the mad poet or something like that. It's hard to say whether that's because he's having a hard time posting naturally within the context of the minigame, or if it's because he is uncomfortable being scum or because he's not "being genuine" (I think that's how Sandroba described his scumhunting in some recent game I was following, reading people's posts and looking for people not being genuine etc). Just read through his filter a couple of times, it's not very long. K, here's one thing - he starts off with his "meta argument" on BKE, but then drops the read for no reason when he moves on to mementoss. Later, he says "BKE isn't scum to him," I would very much like to know what in BKE's filter gave him that impression because (as I outlined in my previous post) BKE's filter looks pretty terrible to me, and the worst parts are the parts that came after Adam's "meta read". Mementoss case, I find pretty unpersuasive, I think that comparing pre-game and in-game enthusiasm levels is a valid tactic. "Not posting much of value" or "not having strong opinions" can be a decent case to make if it's clear and pronounced but it's hardly unique to Mementoss at the moment, I would contend that BKE, Djagulingu, maybe hopeless also fall into that category. Oh, something else - he promises very early on to be like super active, but he is far less active than many other people. Putting the shoe on the other foot, however, his claims about the meta component to your case are pretty compelling. Qualifying that - I know your case is not mainly based on meta anymore. Really, however, unless you disagree with him that his more recent games are different from your claim about his meta, it should be recognized that that element of the case on him is weak. Something else you argue - he did originally take a position against BKE and later backtrack on it. Though I've said above that I don't understand why he backtracked, and though I really want to hear his reasoning, and though I think it's scummy to backtrack from one position and jump on another one without explaining yourself, I do think that at least taking a position is better than not taking a position, even if there is scummy backtracking. Ultimately, here's where I stand. Voting for BKE because I think he's scummier - his positions are less both in number and firmness, and there's also the factor of him doing what I believe is "smokescreening" by talking so much about "how important it is for people to vote in both threads" and then about "how people didn't understand what he meant when he was talking about how important it is for people to vote in both threads", neither of which matter very much. With that said, however, I think a lot of what you say about Adam makes sense, and I wouldn't strenuously object to voting him if that's necessary to get a majority. | ||
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You said you expected him to add to his case but he really didn't add anything of substance, while keeping his vote on and professing that he believed in it. Zero with me - do you think he's scum, would you be willing to vote him? Also I just reread the OP, we don't need to get an absolute majority to lynch, but there are still reasons why we shouldn't just spread our votes around willy-nilly, not least of which is that it gives a coordinated scum team more control over the lynch. | ||
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now I have to post a whole bunch of sentences. Or else I could change my post. Post-changing is lame however. Querelously, therefore, I sit down to type this spoiler. Really, there's nothing interesting in here. Sitting in this chair. Typing things that aren't important. Ummm, what to say next... Very well, I will continue. Waiting to get to the start of the alphabet, almost there... Xylophony! Yeah, that's the art of playing the xylophone! Zounds, I'm at the end of the alphabet, only two more sentences to go! Almost there! BLAMMO! CHEZINU ARE YOU AROUND?!!?!? During the course of the games of yours I've played and observed, I don't think I've seen a time where asking you rational questions has actually helped, but in case I'm wrong or in case there's a first time for everything, let's give you a range of options of things you can talk rationally about. Enumerated herein are things that I would really like you to talk more about so I can discern your alignment: First, you've pretty much dropped your role claim idea without ever explaining why it was a good idea beyond listing all the players. Grant for the sake of argument that I'm stupid, explain to me why that's a good idea. Huh, when I look at your filter this is pretty much the only thing I see you talking about that's neither fluff nor the minigame. 2: I see you have voted for Mementoss; I kind of despair of getting you to explain yourself, since you were already asked directly once and responded only "I don't know," but for the sake of completeness I will herein ask you once again to actually explain that ninja vote please. Jeepers, you probably won't respond to either of those questions so here are some serious questions phrased in a way that might be more likely to garner a response from you: Kay, take a look at BKE. Let me know the ideal job for him as a menial domestic employee in Chezinu's House. Maybe talk a little bit about your spirit animal. Now suppose it has to fight the spirit animal of anyone in this game, whose spirit animal would your spirit animal fight and why? One last question - if you had to choose a game from Whose Line is it Anyway for everyone to play, what would it be and how would it help the House of Chezinu achieve victory in its endeavors? Please, if you refuse to answer any of these questions, just say more things - it seems like you're around but your filter is tiny and purposely vague and impossible to get a good impression of whether you're town or not. | ||
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On November 02 2012 06:25 BroodKingEXE wrote: Knuckling down here, this is not clarifying anything about your read. Look at what you say "I think there are more likely places to catch scum that him", you initially had a scum read on him, so your read has changed from scum to less likely scum. Moseying down after the bolded part, you say that he is doing neutral posting. No where do you clarify your stance, you just confuse the hell out of us. On my bolded part, it doesn't make sense to say you are unvoting Xfire explicitly because it implies that you think his neutrality is a bigger tell than your own Keir case. Perhaps I'm missing something, but what the fuck are you talking about? (Qiviut is the long soft inner hair of the musk ox and I hate the letter Q). Really, are you arguing that his thinking that "keirathi is scummier than crossfire" is the same as his thinking "crossfire's neutrality is a bigger tell than his own Keirathi case?" Seriously, this makes no sense to me. To tell the truth, you continue to talk a whole lot about things that don't matter in the least but let you seem like you're participating - seriously guys look at how much of day 1 he spent talking about nothing but this whole "who votes in which thread when" thing and tell me why it matters in any way whatsoever - and your "scum read" here makes little to no sense on me. Unable to continue with your attacks on Hopeless because of BH's pressure, have you turned to OMGUSing? Very well, why not attack me then? Wow, your scumhunting is terrible or fake and people should be voting you. | ||
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Currently it is past midnight in Europe and I am very tired so I will be going to sleep. Do this, everyone, before the night is through: read BKE's filter, read my posts about him, and in the rare case where you still think he's town then vote for someone else. | ||
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everyone got 1000 points last night give them to me | ||
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So here's why you should give me your points: (1) I am town. (2) I can do bad things to scum with your points. (3) points are way more valuable when concentrated than they are when spread out. | ||
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On November 03 2012 01:53 Blazinghand wrote: if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam I'm not going to comment on exactly what I will do with the points because I want to make it as hard as possible for scum to respond. But Adam will be on the list of targets for sure. (WIFOM that scum team) People, I don't know if you realize but I'm dead serious here. Like I said above, here are the simple facts: (1) I am town (2) I can use points to do bad things to scum (3) the points are a lot more powerful if we concentrate them than they are if they're spread apart. It's getting kind of close to deadline. For this to work well I need as many points as possible so send me your friggen points. | ||
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